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Post by peltier on Jun 14, 2010 15:24:52 GMT -5
On a given RAW, how would you say the crowd is divided between the pro-Cena, the neutral, and the anti-Cena?
From my POV, it seems like it's 40% pro-Cena, 40% neutral, and 20% anti-Cena.
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Jun 14, 2010 15:34:04 GMT -5
On a given RAW, how would you say the crowd is divided between the pro-Cena, the neutral, and the anti-Cena? From my POV, it seems like it's 40% pro-Cena, 40% neutral, and 20% anti-Cena. It really depends heavily on locale. |
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Post by Bo Rida on Jun 14, 2010 15:36:53 GMT -5
On a given RAW, how would you say the crowd is divided between the pro-Cena, the neutral, and the anti-Cena? From my POV, it seems like it's 40% pro-Cena, 40% neutral, and 20% anti-Cena. It really depends heavily on locale. Recently I've noticed his support has increased in many towns, sometimes up to about 75%, however in more smarky places it plummets to 25%. The trouble is the anti-Cena people tend to come across louder so it's hard to tell. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2010 15:37:23 GMT -5
I think more often it's 60 percent favorable, 25 neutral and 15 against, with more than half of the neutrals leaning a little closer to against than favorable.
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Post by Nuke is Good on Jun 14, 2010 15:38:44 GMT -5
Sometimes I feel like the crowd is
80% Apathetic
15% Pro-Cena
5% Anti-Cena
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2010 15:43:08 GMT -5
 Why would they come to see us if they are going to boo us? |
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Jun 14, 2010 15:46:09 GMT -5
It really depends heavily on locale. Recently I've noticed his support has increased in many towns, sometimes up to about 75%, however in more smarky places it plummets to 25%. The trouble is the anti-Cena people tend to come across louder so it's hard to tell. I'd say that the pro-Cena group would be louder since they are higher pitched. Women and Children tend to register higher in the pitch range, and the only way the deeper pitched (anti) Cena bunch would be louder is if there were significantly more of 'em. |
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Post by Kay Faban on Jun 14, 2010 15:48:00 GMT -5
What crowds are you guys listening to that don't care about Cena? I watch every week and I've never heard a crowd not have an opinion on Cena.
Recently his reactions have been around 90% favorable in most towns. That lowers in the smarkier towns, but I haven't notice him dip below 50% cheers since his return at Survivor Series vs. Jericho.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jun 14, 2010 15:49:07 GMT -5
Fluctuates like crazy but hasn't been as bad as his early days as Champion.
It's still mind-blowing to me though that I don't think he's ever had a RAW or PPV without noticable boo's. Even if it's not that much. He's never, and probably will never have everyone on his side.
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Post by Judas Heyman on Jun 14, 2010 15:50:14 GMT -5
Majority of people attending WWE events are John Cena fans, he is the main guy who people pay to see perform. There would hardly be 5% in the Raw arena who are represent the IWC and follow the IWC commandment of Cena hate. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2010 15:51:26 GMT -5
I think WWE would rather have people hate Cena rather than not caring for him, so the percentage of boos don't really matter much.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jun 14, 2010 15:53:33 GMT -5
He gets more and more crowd support because the anti-Cena people increasingly want nothing to do with WWE.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jun 14, 2010 15:55:07 GMT -5
I think WWE would rather have people hate Cena rather than not caring for him, so the percentage of boos don't really matter much. No, I think they'd rather they like him. Since he's "The Guy". He's the Face of the company. I think they've made apparent strives in the past to get people behind him by utilizing such tactics as.. - Having him work with seasoned veterans/good wrestlers to make him come off as a "Good Wrestler". - Realizing he's way hotter whilst chasing the belt and thus giving him that to play off of. - Showing off all the behind-the-curtain work he does for the WWE like the save-a-wish foundation and going over to Iraq for the Soldier Shows, etc, etc.. I just think they kind of got comfortable with "..Some people are just gonna hate him". And rode with it because they certainly didn't want him to turn heel. It seems like both the Company and Cena himself just got used to it. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 14, 2010 15:58:31 GMT -5
Knowing what a hard worker Cena is behind the scenes definitely changed my opinion from hate to indifference.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2010 15:59:37 GMT -5
I think WWE would rather have people hate Cena rather than not caring for him, so the percentage of boos don't really matter much. No, I think they'd rather they like him. Since he's "The Guy". He's the Face of the company. I think they've made apparent strives in the past to get people behind him by utilizing such tactics as.. - Having him work with seasoned veterans/good wrestlers to make him come off as a "Good Wrestler". - Realizing he's way hotter whilst chasing the belt and thus giving him to play off of. - Showing off all the behind-the-curtain work he does for the WWE like the save-a-wish foundation and going over to Iraq for the Soldier Shows, etc, etc.. I just think they kind of got comfortable with "..Some people are just gonna hate him". And rode with it because they certainly didn't want him to turn heel. It seems like both the Company and Cena himself just got used to it. I am pretty sure they want him face. However, the fact he is getting boos means that that those that boo him obviously care for him one way or another(otherwise they wouldn't invest so much time and emotion). I have never heard the crowd once go into silence when Cena comes out, as opposed to other wrestlers in the roster. IMO, WWE and John Cena are at good stance. |
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Post by peltier on Jun 14, 2010 16:02:50 GMT -5
He gets more and more crowd support because the anti-Cena people increasingly want nothing to do with WWE. I noticed that much over the past 3 years, 2007 was more like 35% pro-Cena, 30% neutral, and 35% anti-Cena. Strangely enough, this made Cena's PPV matches way more interesting to watch. |
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jun 14, 2010 16:05:06 GMT -5
No, I think they'd rather they like him. Since he's "The Guy". He's the Face of the company. I think they've made apparent strives in the past to get people behind him by utilizing such tactics as.. - Having him work with seasoned veterans/good wrestlers to make him come off as a "Good Wrestler". - Realizing he's way hotter whilst chasing the belt and thus giving him to play off of. - Showing off all the behind-the-curtain work he does for the WWE like the save-a-wish foundation and going over to Iraq for the Soldier Shows, etc, etc.. I just think they kind of got comfortable with "..Some people are just gonna hate him". And rode with it because they certainly didn't want him to turn heel. It seems like both the Company and Cena himself just got used to it. I am pretty sure they want him face. However, the fact he is getting boos means that that those that boo him obviously care for him one way or another(otherwise they wouldn't invest so much time and emotion). I have never heard the crowd once go into silence when Cena comes out, as opposed to other wrestlers in the roster. IMO, WWE and John Cena are at good stance. But see, that's the defense that gets thrown Cena's way everytime the issue comes up with him getting booed: "Well they obviously care for him or else they wouldn't invest so much time and emotion". First of all, standing up and boo'ing a wrestler doesn't emit a large percentage of my energy, time, and emotion. That may just be me. Second of all, of course they're emotionally invested, but it doesn't change the fact it may be legitimate hate. The opposite of "Love" isn't "Hate" or vice-versa, it's "Apathy". Maybe some of those people "Love to Hate" Cena, but I wouldn't doubt a lot of them just legitimately don't like him. Yeah, they're at a good stance. But it will never stop to absolute perplex me that Cena's been the one "Main Guy" in a line of "Main Guys" to just have this constant fragment of hate and instead of the company going "..Well, listen to the fans and turn him heel", they say "Screw it. Keep him face. Let them Cheer. Or Boo." Maybe it has to do with merchandise, PG, the roster, who knows, who cares. I just find it kind of amazing. In its own way is all. |
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jun 14, 2010 16:15:18 GMT -5
It's usually pretty favorable, except at MSG, and Wrestlemania usually brings a 50/50 split at best for him.
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Post by pink on Jun 14, 2010 16:16:49 GMT -5
However, they go to Canada, and the whole system gets thrown off.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2010 16:17:31 GMT -5
I am pretty sure they want him face. However, the fact he is getting boos means that that those that boo him obviously care for him one way or another(otherwise they wouldn't invest so much time and emotion). I have never heard the crowd once go into silence when Cena comes out, as opposed to other wrestlers in the roster. IMO, WWE and John Cena are at good stance. But see, that's the defense that gets thrown Cena's way everytime the issue comes up with him getting booed: "Well they obviously care for him or else they wouldn't invest so much time and emotion". First of all, standing up and boo'ing a wrestler doesn't emit a large percentage of my energy, time, and emotion. That may just be me. Yes it does. Actually, it is like a relationship with a women, parents, friends etc...We all constantly talk a lot of smack about them and say terrible things, but in one way or another we are still with them. Those fans payed money to see a show, and they have Cena's attention, despite it being boos. To legimately hate a person is extreme, as I don't think the lowest of smarks would ever resort in doing anything physical with him.
Whats funny is that is no different than some people here, will not mention names, that say they will boycott the WWE or stop watching RAW but come back the next week. Who are you really fooling?Second of all, of course they're emotionally invested, but it doesn't change the fact it may be legitimate hate. The opposite of "Love" isn't "Hate" or vice-versa, it's "Apathy". Maybe some of those people "Love to Hate" Cena, but I wouldn't doubt a lot of them just legitimately don't like him. I'd imagine those that legimately won't like him go to the bathrooms or leave the arena to stay away and not watch him. I legimately hate having a tooth ache, but I do something about it rather than do nothing and let the infection embrace itselfYeah, they're at a good stance. But it will never stop to absolute perplex me that Cena's been the one "Main Guy" in a line of "Main Guys" to just have this constant fragment of hate and instead of the company going "..Well, listen to the fans and turn him heel", they say "Screw it. Keep him face. Let them Cheer. Or Boo." Maybe it has to do with merchandise, PG, the roster, who knows, who cares. I just find it kind of amazing. In its own way is all. |
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