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Post by waluigi on Jun 2, 2010 16:03:39 GMT -5
Look I give the WWE grief for its dumb decisions all the time, but they GOTTA clean up blood. If it spreads too far it can get on other wrestlers and then you've got diseases spreading. It may look stupid to stop a match in the middle to clean up, but nobody needs to be walking around in somebody else's juices.
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Post by tigericho on Jun 2, 2010 16:05:46 GMT -5
They should atleast do it once in a while, to get the audience's attention.
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Post by waluigi on Jun 2, 2010 16:07:58 GMT -5
They should atleast do it once in a while, to get the audience's attention. blading is one thing, they know when, where and how to do it. but too many smarks are mad when they clean up people who got busted open hard way. That's just retarded, there's no reason to take risks like that. |
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Post by Rorschach on Jun 2, 2010 16:08:58 GMT -5
Look I give the WWE grief for its dumb decisions all the time, but they GOTTA clean up blood. If it spreads too far it can get on other wrestlers and then you've got diseases spreading. It may look stupid to stop a match in the middle to clean up, but nobody needs to be walking around in somebody else's juices. I don't even know where to begin. I really don't. I mean, I get what you're going for here, but I just don't know where to start to explain to you the myriad reasons that "blood stoppage" is just slap blind STUPID in the world of pro wrestling. I get (and fully support) Vince cracking down on blade jobs. I do. But the whole concept of "blood stoppage" is made for, you know, LEGIT sports where things aren't pre-determined and thus blood could cause an unfair advantage/disadvantage for one man or the other. Plus, as has been pointed out countless times in different threads on the subject, it kills the momentum of the match, and in sports where they DO use a "blood stoppage" rule, they usually don't invoke it IMMEDIATELY. It's done either between rounds by a cornerman, or by the ref WHEN IT BECOMES A SEVERE HINDRANCE. Needless to say, that's not how WWE does it, and it is INFURIATING to behold one of these piddly ass stoppages as a fan. |
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Post by waluigi on Jun 2, 2010 16:13:25 GMT -5
Why are you comparing wrestling to other sports? They're not doing the blood stoppages to make themselves look more legit, if that was the case we wouldn't have this era to begin with. They're doing it b/c they're scared.
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Post by PKO on Jun 2, 2010 16:14:24 GMT -5
I've got to say, I don't remember guys getting busted open hard way so much. It seems to have multiplied since the new rules came in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2010 16:16:31 GMT -5
I don't get it either.
Some people have the blood lust I guess. Its the equivalent of NASCAR crash.
Personally I don't miss it. I think there are times when it can be used for effect, but I'm talking once in a blue moon - like twice a year.
Regarding the blood stoppage - I don't really get how that kills the momentum of a match, but I agree that picking a more propitious time to do it would help.
I think if the wrestlers are taking a breather or someone is stalling on the outside - that would be the time to do it, not when fists are flying.
There was a Kofi/Batista match that was neat to watch where Batista got busted open and the ref went to stop it and Batista gave this "Don't even think about it." look to the ref.
I think that was a good scenario. The ref and the wrestler decided when to take care of it.
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Post by Rorschach on Jun 2, 2010 16:17:32 GMT -5
Why are you comparing wrestling to other sports? They're not doing the blood stoppages to make themselves look more legit, if that was the case we wouldn't have this era to begin with. They're doing it b/c they're scared. Doesn't wrestling CONSTANTLY compare itself to other sports? ;D |
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Post by rhennesey on Jun 2, 2010 16:19:36 GMT -5
I don't care about blood one way or the other. Just give me a good wrestling match.
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Post by waluigi on Jun 2, 2010 16:23:09 GMT -5
Why are you comparing wrestling to other sports? They're not doing the blood stoppages to make themselves look more legit, if that was the case we wouldn't have this era to begin with. They're doing it b/c they're scared. Doesn't wrestling CONSTANTLY compare itself to other sports? ;D Smallest dog barks the loudest, they say... |
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Post by barley96 on Jun 2, 2010 16:26:46 GMT -5
I don't care about blood one way or the other. Just give me a good wrestling match. Usually this is true, but some wrestlers *cough McIntyre cough* flat out suck and needs something to enhance their matches. The only reason I am able to sit through a Hogan or Flair match in TNA is due to their blade jobs. |
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Post by waluigi on Jun 2, 2010 16:27:40 GMT -5
Ric Flair bleeds ALL the time. I bet he has a period
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Post by barley96 on Jun 2, 2010 16:30:25 GMT -5
Ric Flair bleeds ALL the time. I bet he has a period Good point. I would love to see Flair in WWE today, just for the train wreck that would happen if he got busted open. |
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Post by andrewgilkison on Jun 2, 2010 17:17:41 GMT -5
I don't care about the lack of blade jobs. If Vince wants to go that route again (banning blood like he did in the 80's and 90s) in order to be PG, I am fine with it.
However, having doctors come out to patch someone up in the middle of a match is getting really annoying. It kills the flow of the match, and it just makes the other wrestler look stupid for standing there and and doing nothing while his opponent is bleeding, especially in the case of personal blood feuds like Mysterio/Punk and Cena/Batista.
Either stop this practice, or get the wrestlers to wrestle a style where the possibility of someone getting busted open hardway is lessened.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jun 2, 2010 17:21:19 GMT -5
Ric Flair bleeds ALL the time. I bet he has a period Good point. I would love to see Flair in WWE today, just for the train wreck that would happen if he got busted open. Flair's forehead has been busted open so many times they'd have to stay away from it completely, the guy can even bust himself open doing a promo. |
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Post by twiggy101 on Jun 2, 2010 17:36:06 GMT -5
I like it better when they bleed the hard way because it makes matches more realistic. If the blading is considered dangerous then I'm all for doctors patching them up.
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Post by clifford on Jun 2, 2010 17:42:14 GMT -5
I don't care that they don't want people bleeding in matches anymore, I'm fine with that. However, I HATE the fact that matches get stopped if there is some blood. Just leave it go!
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Jun 2, 2010 17:45:58 GMT -5
Regarding the blood stoppage - I don't really get how that kills the momentum of a match, but I agree that picking a more propitious time to do it would help. Really? You don't get how the match just stopping dead kills the momentum? |
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Post by repomark on Jun 2, 2010 18:05:47 GMT -5
I watched Eddie Guerrero v JBL from Judgment Day 2004 the other day, and there is the argument for banning blade jobs/blood. It can go horribly wrong, and that match should beyond any shadow of a doubt been stopped the minute it was apparent that Eddie had cut too deep.
A little blood, when controlled, does have a place. It should be used extremely sparingly and only in certain types of matches, such as Hell in a Cell matches. However in truth, the only time I can think of in WWE history where the absence of blood would have really hurt the moment would be Stone Cold v Bret Hart at WM13. The blood really took Austin to another level that day as the guy who would never give up no matter what - and there in lies where as long as it is used sparingly, in a controlled manner and where there is a genuine reason for it, I think limited exceptions to the no blood rule could be made.
However, if someone is cut hard way then I think the doctors coming in represents common sense.
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Post by Rorschach on Jun 2, 2010 18:15:40 GMT -5
Regarding the blood stoppage - I don't really get how that kills the momentum of a match, but I agree that picking a more propitious time to do it would help. Really? You don't get how the match just stopping dead kills the momentum? Not to mention the fact that it lessens the impact of the match finish. A red-hot build stopped near the end of the match for a "blood fix" is NEVER going to have time to build back to that level again before the wrestlers have to end the match, thus what would have been a rocking, awesome finish just comes off as "meh" or average to the crowd. It's like if you only had three minutes to screw the woman of your dreams, and at 1:59 your rubber breaks. Now, you can pull out, run to the bathroom and grab another one, but then you only have a precious few moments to "get back into the groove" so to speak before time's up. THAT's the kind of scenario these guys are working with in the ring. They only have SO long to work the crowd before they have to hit the "go home" spot and finish. And when these retarded "blood stoppages" happen, it kills their momentum, breaks up the flow of the match, and means that they have to just go right into their finish after the trainers leave the ring. To me, it's just taking the "no blood" rule to a ridiculous level. Unless someone IS split open like Mick Foley in his "I quit" match with the Rock....let it go and let them finish the match. Besides, sitting there and acting like blood is the only was these guys can transmit diseases to each other is a tad shortsighted. |
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