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Post by Jason on May 13, 2010 22:16:32 GMT -5
She's probably the least talented diva on the roster. Can't wrestle very well, can't act, can't cut promos, doesn't sound or look like a threat, and pretty much botches every match. How she has the title and Gail Kim is the arm-candy is beyond me. Remember that time she came storming down to the ring and couldn't get under the bottom rope? Terrible. I don't think she's at all attractive, so WWE making a big deal out of this not-very-good diva, isn't rubbing me the right way.
I'm still not getting how Nattie and Gail aren't getting this push, when they're 5 times better than her. It's not the crowd reaction... nope. Eve recieves a vintage conway pop every week. I'd even say the Bella Twins are better, atleast they don't botch in the ring, and aren't overly exposed as being some great wrestler.
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Post by pks on May 13, 2010 22:17:42 GMT -5
Because on Raw they roll divas out for Maryse to bulldoze, it's Eve's turn On Smackdown, they roll divas out for McCool to bulldoze.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 13, 2010 22:21:49 GMT -5
You know that she is now the de facto No. 1 face Diva in the company, by virtue of Phoenix's knee injury?
Sorry, just shaking the beehive.
I thought she was making improvements when she was having all those matches with Cryme Tyme against The Hart Dynasty. Then she's just peaked, and maybe regressed a bit since she's been on Raw.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on May 13, 2010 22:30:22 GMT -5
Do you even watch her matches? She doesn't botch nearly that often and in fact, is a fairly decent wrestler. Especially when you compare her to Maryse.
And that time she couldn't get under the rope was when she stalled waiting for the ref to stop her. It's no big deal.
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Post by The poster with no name on May 13, 2010 22:48:17 GMT -5
Ha Gail a good wrestler! Now that is a joke.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2010 22:49:57 GMT -5
I think Eve's done reasonably well. Sadly I think she's actually had BETTER matches than Gail, who has just been terrible since her WWE return for the most part.
I know talk gets thrown around about how she had a lot of help putting together matches in TNA, but hell I think Gail was wrestling better when she first appeared in the WWE than she is now. Granted it was with people like Molly Holly so there is that.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 13, 2010 23:12:51 GMT -5
Yeah given the last few months of Gail's career.. really ever since she's been back, I wouldn't hold her up as any kinda wrestling paragon.
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Post by Citizen Grimm on May 13, 2010 23:22:23 GMT -5
I'm still at a loss as to why Nattie, another member of the legendary Hart family who has actual wrestling skills and experience, is nothing more than a manager.
HAVE HER WRESTLE DAMMIT!!!
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Post by Magician under the moonlight on May 13, 2010 23:24:02 GMT -5
Ha Gail a good wrestler! Now that is a joke. She really regressed ever since she came back from TNA!
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Post by celticjobber on May 13, 2010 23:45:54 GMT -5
Gail Kim has been on the level of someone like Kelly Kelly or Maria since she's been back in WWE. Her TNA work seems to have been an anomaly.
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Post by JACK on May 14, 2010 0:31:16 GMT -5
lol Do u even watch her matches? Shes not even that bad. It seems that one drop kick she missed people keep bitching about her botching all the time which isn't true lmao. ...AND I'd say Rosa is the least talented diva on the roster.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on May 14, 2010 1:09:18 GMT -5
I'm still at a loss as to why Nattie, another member of the legendary Hart family who has actual wrestling skills and experience, is nothing more than a manager. HAVE HER WRESTLE DAMMIT!!! The obvious angle to do right about now would be to pair Maryse with the Miz/Jericho team, thus giving Natalya a counterpart to feud with in the Hart Dynasty's current angle. As for Eve... there really is a dearth of competent female babyfaces on both brands at the moment. I'd say she's better than Gail these days, but neither of them is really bringing much of anything to the table. Feels like we're just killing time until Melina gets back.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on May 14, 2010 3:34:54 GMT -5
I struggled finding a single thing in your first post that was true.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on May 14, 2010 3:49:22 GMT -5
I should tack on an "in my opinion" qualifier to the end of that, since a lot of the stuff you said is opinion.
But...
I'd say Rosa, the Bellas, Kelly Kelly, and Jillian are less talented.
I haven't seen a match with her since her Cryme Tyme days that was anything less than average, some were rather enjoyable
She's not insanely charismatic, but she CAN talk. She doesn't flub lines at all and is very well spoken. She's supposed to be the nice girl and is sold as being very intelligent by the announcers. She doesn't need some sort of insane charisma to pull that off.
I think she totally has the body type where she actually looks like a threat, unlike a lot of the Divas on the roster.
Don't know what you mean by "sound like a threat"
... well this has been covered already by people, but I can't remember her botching much of anything.
As has been said, Gail has been awful since her WWE return.
I don't remember this, but someone else already covered a response to this.
Wow, I mean, I can understand that there's taste and some people just don't get certain looks. But I just find it VERY hard to believe that anyone who's attracted to women [I'm not implying anything about you, you are obviously attracted to women, you have one in your signature] wouldn't at least be able to see how other people could find Eve good looking. Honestly, I think she's one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen, and that SEEMS to be a commonly held opinion even around here. Plus, it's nice to see the WWE lauding that kind of beauty Eve has, since she's a bit thicker, not blonde, ethnic, ect ect.
I can get you not finding her attractive [well... OK I can't be I know taste is taste] but I can't understand the WWE acting like she is attractive rubbing you the wrong way.
Natie I agree deserves this more, Gail not so much.
This I can't deny, but I don't really think that's Eve's fault. Given the right storyline I think Eve could potentially get over. Who knows.
The Bellas do botch way more than Eve ever has. Luckily they don't really wrestle and are just arm candy for the guest hosts. But I think you and almost everyone here would be a HELL of a lot more pissed off if Nikki or Brie were Diva's Champion..
And I don't think the WWE has even near to "overexposed" Eve nor have they really tried to refer to her as a great wrestler.
Overall, do I think she deserved the title at this time? No. Am I angry that it happened? Not at all.
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Post by jamielowndes {N} on May 14, 2010 4:32:21 GMT -5
I still say they need to push the hell out of Eve's Blue Belt with the Gracies. Rework her into a submission machine. With the gator roll that comes before it, the anaconda choke is a sub that could get over in the WWE.
Maryse and Layla know how to throw kicks pretty well, so the WWE lets them kick. If Eve knows how to use BJJ, then let her use BJJ.
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