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Post by Gopher Mod on Aug 5, 2010 8:41:17 GMT -5
As per PWInsider: WWE released their most current PPV buyrate numbers today and they continue to slide backwards. Scarily so in one case. Here is the grid. Show | Buys in 2010 | Buys in 2009 | Over The Limit/Judgment Day | 197,000 | 228,000 | Extreme Rules | 182,000 | 213,000 | Fatal Four Way/The Bash | 143,000 | 178,000 |
---------- From year to year, that is a loss of: Over the Limit/Judgment Day: 31,000 buys (-13.6%) Extreme Rules: 31,000 buys (-14.6%) Fatal Four Way/The Bash: 35,000 buys (-19.7%) That's a bit worrisome to be honest. Losing a total of almost 100,000 buys over three PPV's is going to hurt. Now in convenient table form!
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Post by Sparvid on Aug 5, 2010 8:46:02 GMT -5
LOL @ PPV buyrates
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Post by Gummydavidson on Aug 5, 2010 8:55:21 GMT -5
Ouch?
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 5, 2010 9:14:24 GMT -5
High cost, people spending their money on UFC, and a s*** economy will do that to every company.
I shudder to see what Money in the Bank did, and the dropoff considering it happened 2 weeks after Lesnar's return to UFC.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Aug 5, 2010 9:17:59 GMT -5
Maybe they should make people care about the product and want to order the ppv instead of giving away the same damn match every week on tv for free?
Hmm...
Also, Nexus is annoying. Get rid of them. I am never going to buy any of those guys as main event caliber guys. Ever.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Aug 5, 2010 9:21:48 GMT -5
Well, when you raise the prices every year, it's bound to kick you in the ass.
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Post by Paul on Aug 5, 2010 9:24:15 GMT -5
Too many PPVs, too high a cost, not enough interest in the builds up to the PPVs.
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Post by Krimzon on Aug 5, 2010 9:27:44 GMT -5
Maybe they should make people care about the product and want to order the ppv instead of giving away the same damn match every week on tv for free? Hmm... Also, Nexus is annoying. Get rid of them. I am never going to buy any of those guys as main event caliber guys. Ever. People said that about Rock, Austin, HHH, & Foley too. This is their FIRST year in the WWE for crying out loud. Hell, the current WWE Champion isn't even as good as he's going to be in a few years.
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Post by Gopher Mod on Aug 5, 2010 9:43:46 GMT -5
Well, when you raise the prices every year, it's bound to kick you in the ass. Going from year to year (and hopefully I'm doing this right): Judgment Day '09- $9,108,600 in PPV buys ($39.95 x 228,000 buys) Over the Limit- $8,855,150 in PPV buys ($44.95 x 197,000 buys) Extreme Rules '09- $8,509,350 in PPV buys ($39.95 x 213,000 buys) Extreme Rules '10- $8,180,900 in PPV buys ($44.95 x 182,000 buys) The Bash- $7,111,100 in PPV buys ($39.95 x 178,000 buys) Fatal 4 Way- $6,428,750 in PPV buys ($44.95 x 143,000 buys) Total for 2Q '09- $24,729,050 Total for 2Q '10- $23,464,800 Loss from year to year- $1,264,250 Ouch.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Aug 5, 2010 9:52:45 GMT -5
Yeah higher prices shows it not always the best thing. You looking at the numbers posted it damn near a million dollar lost every PPV. The WWE trying to cover cost when the old prices where doing the better job. TNA has the same problem. They sell there product as if they where the WWE when it comes to PPVs and tickets (When they do travel). When they are third in PPVs behind UFC and WWE. Yeah they shouldn't be selling for the price. Thats why they get what I've seen embarassing numbers. WWE drop and it hurts. At less there getting numbers TNA wish they could get.
But yeah lower the PPV price WWE. You make more money when more people can afford it.
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Post by ace r0ckolla on Aug 5, 2010 10:00:05 GMT -5
My issue with this is what Vince had to say, hinting that it's because of the talent (ie: no Taker/HHH etc). Not to turn this into a PG rant, but couldn't THAT have something to do with it to? Really Vince? You don't believe at all that you're slowly turning off a hardcore audience with a watered down product?
Or maybe it's the ramp up in price? I don't want to spend $50 bucks on a PPV I can just rent/own in 30 days.
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Post by MGH on Aug 5, 2010 10:02:25 GMT -5
Well, I thought it would take at least two years for people to become desensitized to the overly gimmicked PPV. Guess it isn't even taking that long.
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 5, 2010 10:06:57 GMT -5
To me this is purely a matter of PPVs costing entirely too much money. 45.00 is just too much money to spend on a PPV, especially if you have WWE 24/7 and the show will eventually turn up there. Or you can always buy the DVD.
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Aug 5, 2010 10:09:59 GMT -5
Dixie Carter just called me, she has a message:
"We Win"
But seriously, that's not a huge dip. The audience demographic is also still fluctuating.
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Post by Gopher Mod on Aug 5, 2010 10:16:44 GMT -5
Dixie Carter just called me, she has a message: "We Win" But seriously, that's not a huge dip. The audience demographic is also still fluctuating. In general PPV buyrates are tanking for wrestling. Both WWE and TNA are losing buys left and right.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 5, 2010 10:40:01 GMT -5
Wait....they are 45 DOLLARS NOW?!
This isn't rocket science.
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Post by Ryushinku on Aug 5, 2010 10:41:16 GMT -5
September '09 - Feb '10, Survivor Series aside, they were all going up.
Last four, including WrestleMania, all down.
Other thing I will say is - bye-bye Fatal 4 Way. We hardly knew ye, but what we did know was ye didn't have an interesting gimmick or good build.
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Post by Shaq-Fu on Aug 5, 2010 10:45:04 GMT -5
I honestly think that wrestling in general is just inexorably moving away from the PPV market. Greater costs, defanged gimmicks and flawed builds are all contributing factors, but even without these PPVs (except for special one-off ones, like WM) are part of a dying system.
Heck, with TNA I'd be surprised if they're still running monthly PPVs in three years time, given how badly they've been struggling.
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Post by Ryushinku on Aug 5, 2010 10:46:22 GMT -5
Gotta grab a better calculator...
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Post by no2humanorchid on Aug 5, 2010 10:56:02 GMT -5
At the end of the day, though possibly disappointing for them, I don't think their short of a dollar or two somehow.
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