salTy
El Dandy
Posts: 8,425
|
Post by salTy on Aug 3, 2010 0:28:20 GMT -5
"...in one year".
Could it be any more obvious they're pushing Sheamus as the new/better Lesnar? I understand if there's still some bad blood from Lesnar leaving years ago, but this is such an obvious attempt at saying "Yeah, we know you're a huge success with UFC now, but that's ok because we can just replace you all over".
Only Sheamus is nothing like Lesnar was save for the quick title reigns.
That's what I see at least.
|
|
Toates Madhackrviper
King Koopa
Is owed an Admin life-debt.
This avatar is so far out of date I might as well stick with it forever now.
Posts: 10,723
|
Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Aug 3, 2010 0:36:10 GMT -5
Who else would mark for a Lesnar/Sheamus match at Wrestlemania? Never gonna happen, but I would.
|
|
AriadosMan
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Your friendly neighborhood superhero
Posts: 15,620
|
Post by AriadosMan on Aug 3, 2010 0:36:55 GMT -5
Sheamus is far too cowardly to be "Lesnar". His character, I mean.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2010 0:39:08 GMT -5
Honestly, I took it as more of a shot at Angle. I imagine they still like Lesnar since they've promoted his victories on the website.
|
|
|
Post by zabimaru on Aug 3, 2010 0:40:29 GMT -5
I don't mean to be a debbie downer.
But what is so special about Sheamus? I'm not really against the guy or anything. It's just that I raise an eyebrow with Sheamus. Everything feels so forced.
I didn't like putting the title on Lesnar so fast but he was plowing through the WWE like a freight train believably.... Sheamus just seems to be really lucky.... Not convincingly. Just WAYYY too lucky
|
|
bob
Salacious Crumb
The "other" Bob. FOC COURSE!
started the Madness Wars, Proudly the #1 Nana Hater on FAN
Posts: 78,451
|
Post by bob on Aug 3, 2010 0:49:03 GMT -5
we're not supposed to remember Kurt Angle or Brock Lesnar apprently I don't mean to be a debbie downer. But what is so special about Sheamus? I'm not really against the guy or anything. I felt that way until the 2nd RAW after his WM match...then instread of just being like meh, at least he's someone different, it hit me that he has it and won me over
|
|
|
Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Aug 3, 2010 0:55:10 GMT -5
Was I the only who loved Sheamus' promo this week?
It is unfair to compare him Lesnar. I doubt they will ever get someone with the pure physical talent of Lesnar again.
|
|
|
Post by golding on Aug 3, 2010 0:57:21 GMT -5
I don't think it's selective amnesia to necessarily knock Lesnar or Angle. I think it's to talk up Sheamus. You know, the guy they're currently making money off of. ;o
Sort of like how they've never seen Batista go to the top rope.
|
|
|
Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 3, 2010 0:57:45 GMT -5
It's pro wrestling, of course they're putting over ongoing angles as the biggest, most important thing ever.
How awe-inspiring does "Undertaker's been manhandled like this plenty of times before, usually by guys who turn out to be flashes in the pan who fade away ignominiously" sound?
|
|
Jeremy
Hank Scorpio
Horse of a Different Color
Posts: 6,240
|
Post by Jeremy on Aug 3, 2010 1:03:17 GMT -5
"I've never seen a superstar rise this fast..." I think he rose farther than Lesnar, he may not have reached the top as fast as Lesnar but he rose from beating jobbers to jobbers to the stars to John Cena. Pretty fast
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2010 1:09:38 GMT -5
Well, technically, Sheamus went from losing to Goldust to making Cena his job bitch; Lesnar didn't really rise, persae, since he was murdering people from day one.
|
|
Vampiro138
Hank Scorpio
the greatest vampire in the HISTORY of our sport
Posts: 5,752
|
Post by Vampiro138 on Aug 3, 2010 1:15:23 GMT -5
who was the quickest superstar to rise to the top??? dosent Nash still hold the record for quickest run from debut to world title reign? or did CM Punk smash that record?
|
|
|
Post by zabimaru on Aug 3, 2010 1:29:20 GMT -5
who was the quickest superstar to rise to the top??? dosent Nash still hold the record for quickest run from debut to world title reign? or did CM Punk smash that record? Depends on what were defining as "rise to the top" I think it's more about dominance. And noone plowed through the WWE like Lesnar. CM Punk, Sheamus and Angle all got world title runs pretty quick but they had nowhere near the shear brutality of Lesnar. I didn't care for him much but Lesnar destroyed everyone in his path like a freight train as soon as he came into the WWE.
|
|
|
Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Aug 3, 2010 2:45:16 GMT -5
It's just the seven year rule in effect. Wrestling has to promote the present as being *the* time to watch.
For those that care though, here's everyone who ever won a WWF/E Championship in under a year in their FIRST televised run with the company.
Kurt Angle - 344 days Kane - 266 days Big Show - 243 days Sheamus - 167 days Brock Lesnar - 161 days Yokozuna - ~154 days Ric Flair - 133 days
Hulk Hogan has the fastest win from any debut though. He won the WWF Championship in 28 days after his re-debut in the WWF.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2010 2:54:49 GMT -5
It's just the seven year rule in effect. Wrestling has to promote the present as being *the* time to watch. For those that care though, here's the amount of days it took the three people involved in this discussion to win their first WWF/E Championship. Kurt Angle - 344 days Sheamus - 167 days Brock Lesnar - 161 days Didn't Yokozuna take the same amount of days as Sheamus? I seem to recall somebody bringing that up.
|
|
|
Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Aug 3, 2010 3:07:14 GMT -5
It's just the seven year rule in effect. Wrestling has to promote the present as being *the* time to watch. For those that care though, here's the amount of days it took the three people involved in this discussion to win their first WWF/E Championship. Kurt Angle - 344 days Sheamus - 167 days Brock Lesnar - 161 days Didn't Yokozuna take the same amount of days as Sheamus? I seem to recall somebody bringing that up. I can't find anything that gives Yokozuna a solid debut date, but he probably managed it a little faster than Sheamus in all honesty.
|
|
|
Post by rchi84 on Aug 3, 2010 4:41:01 GMT -5
i agree. Lesnar and Nash come to mind as far as first year impacts go. Nash did win all the major belts and Brock, well, unlike Matt, he did slap tornadoes in the first year
|
|
|
Post by seamonsters on Aug 3, 2010 8:46:24 GMT -5
Didn't Yokozuna take the same amount of days as Sheamus? I seem to recall somebody bringing that up. I can't find anything that gives Yokozuna a solid debut date, but he probably managed it a little faster than Sheamus in all honesty. Yokozuna debuted on 10/26/92 (filmed 10/12/92) - winning the title at Wrestlemania 160 days later (Brock managed it in 157 days, Sheamus in 166). Considering the way WWF TV was in those days (unlike today, not everyone appeared every week on the main shows), Yoko's achievement is by far the greater of the three. i agree. Lesnar and Nash come to mind as far as first year impacts go. Nash did win all the major belts and Brock, well, unlike Matt, he did slap tornadoes in the first year Nash didn't have a huge first year impact. In his first year. Nash debuted 6/7/93 as Michaels' bodyguard, but didn't make his wrestling debut until 4/10/93 (in a battle royal), it wasn't until his second year that he won the title.
|
|
|
Post by itputsthelotion on Aug 3, 2010 9:38:00 GMT -5
They made Lesnar look like God himself. Sheamus is still on his way up in my mind.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2010 9:56:45 GMT -5
I can't find anything that gives Yokozuna a solid debut date, but he probably managed it a little faster than Sheamus in all honesty. Yokozuna debuted on 10/26/92 (filmed 10/12/92) - winning the title at Wrestlemania 160 days later (Brock managed it in 157 days, Sheamus in 166). Considering the way WWF TV was in those days (unlike today, not everyone appeared every week on the main shows), Yoko's achievement is by far the greater of the three. Then there's Hogan; if you don't count his first run he did it within like a month.
|
|