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Post by i.Sarita.com on Sept 6, 2010 23:20:01 GMT -5
I don't understand why people think this guy is good in the ring. He moves really slow, doesn't do anything all that amazing, has an awful finisher, and is akward looking to say the least.
Sure, he can cut a promo, but his wrestling needs a lot of work.
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Post by kuda on Sept 6, 2010 23:23:14 GMT -5
Yeah, wrestling is all about the MOVES~! am I right!?
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Post by Dave the Dave on Sept 6, 2010 23:23:21 GMT -5
I mainly agree. He seems in slow motion. He doens't have a technical style to warrant it either.
Sidenote: I love that is still your sig picture OP, I remember that thread.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Sept 6, 2010 23:25:00 GMT -5
I mainly agree. He seems in slow motion. He doens't have a technical style to warrant it either. Sidenote: I love that is still your sig picture OP, I remember that thread. The "Chris Sabin Invented..." Thread is a long lost, oft overlooked, WC classic.
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Post by xxx4lyfe on Sept 6, 2010 23:26:05 GMT -5
So what you're saying is...
Wade Barrett....
IS SLOW...
IN THE RING...
like every other Superstar because that IS the WWE style. Slower paced matches?
Is that what you're saying?
Morrison vs. Jericho = slow. Cena vs. Gabriel = slow.
It's WWE's style of how they teach their stars, to work slower paced matches. I'm pretty sure that's how every single one of the WWE stars works. Especially new guys like Wade, Gabriel, etc.
*shrug*
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Post by Dave the Dave on Sept 6, 2010 23:28:14 GMT -5
John Morrison is not slow compared to Wade Barrett.....not even close. Neither is Gabriel or Cena or Jericho.
NOw Edge....
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Sept 6, 2010 23:29:31 GMT -5
So what you're saying is... Wade Barrett.... IS SLOW... IN THE RING... like every other Superstar because that IS the WWE style. Slower paced matches? Is that what you're saying? Morrison vs. Jericho = slow. Cena vs. Gabriel = slow. It's WWE's style of how they teach their stars, to work slower paced matches. I'm pretty sure that's how every single one of the WWE stars works. Especially new guys like Wade, Gabriel, etc. *shrug* I'm not knocking WWE's style, as PLENTY of other guys do it and aren't as slow or weird looking as Wade is. He just seems really out of place for a guy who's suppose to be a Main Eventer. Hell, as limited as Cena and the Current Champ are, at least they SEEM like wrestlers.
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Sept 6, 2010 23:31:10 GMT -5
It doesn't matter, he has good ring psychology and that's all that matters in WWE.
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Post by xxx4lyfe on Sept 6, 2010 23:31:12 GMT -5
John Morrison is not slow compared to Wade Barrett.....not even close. Neither is Gabriel or Cena or Jericho. NOw Edge.... Okay Cena. No matter how much I like the guy, besides the ending with the typical babyface speed up routine, he's getting beat down. So he's not fast nor slow. Because Gabriel is some "grand high flyer" you would expect him to be fast. But he's slower than what he could be, I'm sure. Everyone from their regular, great talent, they get pushed down to the slower speed of working a WWE styled match. Everyone.
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Post by Cable "Showgrill" Jones on Sept 6, 2010 23:32:35 GMT -5
I wouldn't say sucks. He'd be overrated if people were constantly praising him for his ringwork, but as far as I know most people just refer to him as "solid" in the ring.
He's not that bad. His matches, while they arent StELLaR!!!!!!! are passable and fairly fluid.
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Post by Free Hat on Sept 6, 2010 23:34:16 GMT -5
He really does look kinda awkward out there, like he has no idea what he's doing. I don't think he's had a single good match since he debuted.
Still, he's better than Batista was at this stage in his career, so I have high hopes that he'll improve.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Sept 6, 2010 23:35:00 GMT -5
John Morrison is not slow compared to Wade Barrett.....not even close. Neither is Gabriel or Cena or Jericho. NOw Edge.... Okay Cena. No matter how much I like the guy, besides the ending with the typical babyface speed up routine, he's getting beat down. So he's not fast nor slow. Because Gabriel is some "grand high flyer" you would expect him to be fast. But he's slower than what he could be, I'm sure. Everyone from their regular, great talent, they get pushed down to the slower speed of working a WWE styled match. Everyone. I know. I"m not saying they're putting on ROH 2002 style spotfest marathons. Compared to Wade though, they look like more comfortable and a little quicker, if not a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2010 23:36:29 GMT -5
I liked that he was working more punches and punch combos in. He's supposed to be "A Bare Knuckled Brawler", so I'd like to see him use that style more, maybe throwing in body shots in order to set up his finisher.
I think he excels in everything but ring work and that he's probably 6th amongst the NXT Season 1 guys, counting Bryan, in that department being better than Otunga and maybe Tarver. Which is disconcerting considering the role he plays in the group.
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Post by Krimzon on Sept 6, 2010 23:37:36 GMT -5
Nobody is calling him the second coming of William Regal in the ring. He's okay. He's solid. In the WWE, solid is enough to get you far, as long as you're in the ring with equal or better workers.
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Post by xxx4lyfe on Sept 6, 2010 23:40:08 GMT -5
Maybe I'm just not noticing this supposed slowness more than others because I could literally care less about Nexus. And that kind of includes Wade. I didn't watch the opening promo tonight besides Wade, because once Otunga got on the mic, I was done.
*switches back*
TARVER?!
*changes than switches back*
SLATER?!
*change, switch back*
GABRIEL?! MY GOD!
*just throws out TV*
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Post by allenfan69 on Sept 6, 2010 23:40:23 GMT -5
If he had a more impressive finisher, I think that would go a long ways. A big finish for Barrett would make everything leading up to it just that much better. His front-flip-fireman's carry just doesn't seem to cut it.
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Post by Krimzon on Sept 6, 2010 23:42:10 GMT -5
Maybe I'm just not noticing this supposed slowness more than others because I could literally care less about Nexus. And that kind of includes Wade. I didn't watch the opening promo tonight besides Wade, because once Otunga got on the mic, I was done. *switches back* TARVER?! *changes than switches back* SLATER?! *change, switch back* GABRIEL?! MY GOD! *just throws out TV* Well then you missed out, as all of the Nexus guys have become good promos. I'm on the fence about Slater, but the rest can more than hold their own on the mic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2010 23:47:19 GMT -5
I don't think that the Wasteland is a bad move necessarily but how good it looks depends a lot on who he does it to. The one that he did to Evan Bourne looked great because of the size difference and Bourne's stellar selling while the ones that he's done to larger opponent's look good because of the impact a bigger body makes, it's just that when he does it to middle sized guys...
Barrett, to me, just doesn't have a well established move set. Comparing him to Gabriel, you get the sense that Gabriel's a very, very established pro who has his own moves, has his own way of doing things. Barrett just hasn't established a style yet; he needs to live up to the bare knuckled brawler aspect of his character.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Sept 6, 2010 23:48:55 GMT -5
You try wrestling with garbage-can lid sized ears.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Sept 6, 2010 23:54:39 GMT -5
Barrett has potential, but I don't think he's developed enough to come across credibly as the top heel in the company, even though that's the position they've been pushing him into since the Nexus angle began. It's one of the reasons I've been ambivalent towards Nexus from the start, and why practically everyone expected the "bigger picture"/mystery GM to lead to some more established guy being revealed as the mastermind and leader of the group.
Sheamus has a certain aura, an it-factor that shown through even when he was beating up jobbers on ECW (and is what's keeping him looking as good as he is even when he's booked to get his ass kicked by just about everyone). Barrett's yet to show any of that IMO, and I still can't really buy him as a potential world champion.
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