B.A.
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Post by B.A. on Jul 21, 2006 21:43:10 GMT -5
The Great American Bash is cursed The spirit of WCW will not allow WWE to do this just like the spirit of ECW wont allow WWE to do what its doing and be successful in the long run?
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Post by #Classic Hi-Definition X on Jul 21, 2006 21:43:23 GMT -5
Eh, I still don't believe he was using steroids. Guess we'll have to agree to disagree there. How about Chris Masters who isn't as big as Lashley? I didn't exacly believe he was using them at first either. Not everyone who gets big like that uses them.
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Post by gorydaze on Jul 21, 2006 21:43:31 GMT -5
Yah Lashley doesn't take Roids but Steiner does Riiiight I have as much right saying Lashley takes roids as anyone does of Steiner doing them But its pretty much fact that he does, at least in my opinion Well then in my opinion it is a fact that Lashley is roided.
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Post by sunwukong on Jul 21, 2006 21:44:02 GMT -5
This really isn't THAT odd of an explanation.
Liver Enzymes being elevated is a symptom of a damn near limitless number of disorders, ranging from tumors of the liver to hepatitis to gall stones to infections. Speaking as someone that spent a year trying to determine why their liver enzymes were related, I can attest to the fact that attempting to figure out just what is wrong can be a long, time consuming process.
If the enzymes are highly elevated and they haven't determined why yet, they aren't going to let him wrestle.
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Post by vincemark on Jul 21, 2006 21:44:13 GMT -5
hunter isn't gonna let these guys get away with juicing if he has to be fat.
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Post by gorydaze on Jul 21, 2006 21:44:45 GMT -5
hunter isn't gonna let these guys get away with juicing if he has to be fat. good point
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Post by thezombie on Jul 21, 2006 21:45:32 GMT -5
I hope he gets better as a human
As a wrestling fan I hope HE NEVER EVER comes back on my tv screen
Flash in the US title pan
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jul 21, 2006 21:45:36 GMT -5
How about Chris Masters who isn't as big as Lashley? I didn't exacly believe he was using them at first either. Not everyone who gets big like that uses them. Exactly. Like, I remember when Masters and Mercury were out because of drugs everyone was joking about Chris Masters, when he actually had drug problems. What ever happened to guys possibly getting bigger by themselves, which can happen. What sucks is according to the net sometimes, everyone is on steroids.
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Post by thezombie on Jul 21, 2006 21:46:00 GMT -5
The spirit of WCW will not allow WWE to do this just like the spirit of ECW wont allow WWE to do what its doing and be successful in the long run? The world works in mysterious ways
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Post by gorydaze on Jul 21, 2006 21:49:11 GMT -5
I'm not saying everyone is on roids, I'm making an educated guess that this is a cover up angle. It's not the first time nor will it be the last time it has been done.
In my opinion Chris Masters and Bobby Lashley are the most roided-looking wrestlers of the past 12 months.
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Post by The Line on Jul 21, 2006 21:50:15 GMT -5
I just think its odd that this happens soon after a report that he was being "punished".
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jul 21, 2006 21:56:10 GMT -5
Yah Lashley doesn't take Roids but Steiner does Riiiight I have as much right saying Lashley takes roids as anyone does of Steiner doing them And I have as much of a right to tell you to shut your pie-hole as anybody has a right to tell me to. Only I actually attempt to make logical arguements. In all honesty I will give Lashley the benefit of the doubt on the steroids issue. I hope he gets well soon and that this doesn't become something worse (such as Bob Holly going from Staph to MRSA to almost losing his arm). Sadly it looks like this revealed what the end result of the GAB match was going to be (Finlay retaining), but that's not necessarily a bad thing, Lashley being well or not, only because when you have a heel holding the title it adds a much more interesting title picture. But I digress. I hope Lashley gets better and recovers, and I hope this doesn't destroy anybody else's storylines or pushes (only cause these things sometimes get intertwined confusingly), cause right now as it is SmackDown is capable of putting on good matches (and has been), but their roster is suffering from a rash of injuries which is making things difficult.
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Post by thezombie on Jul 21, 2006 22:03:21 GMT -5
Yah Lashley doesn't take Roids but Steiner does Riiiight I have as much right saying Lashley takes roids as anyone does of Steiner doing them And I have as much of a right to tell you to shut your pie-hole as anybody has a right to tell me to. Only I actually attempt to make logical arguements. In all honesty I will give Lashley the benefit of the doubt on the steroids issue. I hope he gets well soon and that this doesn't become something worse (such as Bob Holly going from Staph to MRSA to almost losing his arm). Sadly it looks like this revealed what the end result of the GAB match was going to be (Finlay retaining), but that's not necessarily a bad thing, Lashley being well or not, only because when you have a heel holding the title it adds a much more interesting title picture. But I digress. I hope Lashley gets better and recovers, and I hope this doesn't destroy anybody else's storylines or pushes (only cause these things sometimes get intertwined confusingly), cause right now as it is SmackDown is capable of putting on good matches (and has been), but their roster is suffering from a rash of injuries which is making things difficult. How is that not a logical argument? People attack Steiner for no reason as far as taking steroids go. In a logical argument I have as much right to tell people that Lashley takes roids as they do Calm down tiger.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jul 21, 2006 22:05:16 GMT -5
Except we friggin KNOW Steiner takes steroids, as of right now Lashley's roid use is hearsay. Maybe he does use them or did use them but i'm still giving out a benefit of the doubt here.
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Post by thezombie on Jul 21, 2006 22:06:42 GMT -5
Except we friggin KNOW Steiner takes steroids, as of right now Lashley's roid use is heresay. Maybe he does use them or did use them but i'm still giving out a benefit of the doubt here. I look at Steiner And yes i think he probably has done or does roids I look at Lashley Get the same feeling. But neither of them do I have proof on. Unless you do. Which I would be glad to hear I personally don't give a damn if they take roids since wrestlings fake and I watch it for entertainment HOWEVER I don't see how anyone has a right to say Steiner takes roids with his body and then look at Lashley and think differently
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Post by sunwukong on Jul 21, 2006 22:13:46 GMT -5
I'm going to play Devil's advocate here re: steroids. I see the argument a lot that "Maybe he just works out a lot!!!!" and frankly...If you believe someone gets that big and that cut just by working out, you've never lifted a weight in your life.
There's a reason you never saw guys like Steiner, Luger (in his prime), Masters, Lashley, etc. back in the old days of wrestling. And there's also a major reason you started seeing more and more of them after designer anabolic steroids and supplements became much easier to get a hold of. I'll let you figure that out.
And before you bring up bodybuilding as an excuse that people have looked like that for years, keep in mind that the pro-bodybuilding circuit was one of the first cultures to REALLY start using steroids in the mainstream. Anyway, If you search for some old pictures of Lashley, he isn't nearly as big and doesn't have nearly as much muscle mass as he does now. And we're talking pictures that are a few years old at most.
I'm not saying this is a covert suspension or not. Personally I think it probably isn't. But I do believe you have to be sort of naive to think the guy doesn't do roids.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jul 21, 2006 22:15:36 GMT -5
Except we friggin KNOW Steiner takes steroids, as of right now Lashley's roid use is heresay. Maybe he does use them or did use them but i'm still giving out a benefit of the doubt here. I look at Steiner And yes i think he probably has done or does roids I look at Lashley Get the same feeling. But neither of them do I have proof on. Unless you do. Which I would be glad to hear I personally don't give a damn if they take roids since wrestlings fake and I watch it for entertainment HOWEVER I don't see how anyone has a right to say Steiner takes roids with his body and then look at Lashley and think differently Well, I can, because Steiner used to look like Sean Astin with a mullet. one does not go from Sean Astin to Big Poppa Pump without some sort of help. The same can't be said for Lashley. That's why Steiner has no benefit of the doubt and Lashley does, in my mind. But you're not really listening since you've already decreed Lashley to have no skills and he's a "flash in the US Title pan" EDIT: And again, i never said Lashley DIDN'T do steroids, I'm calling into question whether he still does.
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Post by darthpipes on Jul 21, 2006 22:18:28 GMT -5
Is this is another suspension from the drug testing, then I'll give the WWE credit for once again cracking down.
Finlay and Regal should be a good, stiff match. Their series of matches in WCW were very entertaining. Hell, bring back the parking lot brawl! Butterfly suplex on an SUV!
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jul 21, 2006 22:18:36 GMT -5
If it's legit, I hope he's alright and I actually didn't mind seeing the guy on SD.
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Post by thezombie on Jul 21, 2006 22:20:47 GMT -5
I look at Steiner And yes i think he probably has done or does roids I look at Lashley Get the same feeling. But neither of them do I have proof on. Unless you do. Which I would be glad to hear I personally don't give a damn if they take roids since wrestlings fake and I watch it for entertainment HOWEVER I don't see how anyone has a right to say Steiner takes roids with his body and then look at Lashley and think differently Well, I can, because Steiner used to look like Sean Astin with a mullet. one does not go from Sean Astin to Big Poppa Pump without some sort of help. The same can't be said for Lashley. That's why Steiner has no benefit of the doubt and Lashley does, in my mind. But you're not really listening since you've already decreed Lashley to have no skills and he's a "flash in the US Title pan" EDIT: And again, i never said Lashley DIDN'T do steroids, I'm calling into question whether he still does. Someone already said they looked at past pics of Lashley and he looks nowhere as big. So that basically kills your whole argument. It's ridiculous to think that Lashley go that big without some help. And Steiner was always huge even in tag team competiton. Don't know what the hell your talking about there. The dude was always massive
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