stealthamo
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Post by stealthamo on Nov 10, 2010 10:03:00 GMT -5
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BearDogg-X
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Post by BearDogg-X on Nov 10, 2010 10:39:20 GMT -5
Standings so far(as of Tuesday's games):
East Atlantic Sting(Boston) 6-2 Mongo(New York) 3-4 Glacier(New Jersey) 2-5 Bobby Eaton(Philadelphia) 2-5 Jerry Flynn(Toronto) 1-6
Central Bret Hart(Cleveland) 4-3 Eddie Guerrero(Chicago) 3-3 Greg Valentine(Indiana) 3-3 David Arquette(Milwaukee) 3-5 Nasty Boys(Detroit) 2-6
Southeast Steiner Bros.(Orlando) 5-1 Booker T(Atlanta) 6-2 nWo(Miami) 5-3 Juventud Guerrera(Washington) 1-4 Alex Wright(Charlotte) 1-6
West Southwest Ric Flair(New Orleans) 7-0 Larry Zybysko(San Antonio) 5-1 Lex Luger(Dallas) 4-2 DDP(Memphis) 4-4 Perry Saturn(Houston) 1-5
Northwest Ultimo Dragon(Portland) 6-3 Raven's Flock(Utah) 4-3 Fire & Ice(Denver) 4-4 Chris Jericho(Oklahoma City) 3-3 Silver King(Minnesota) 1-7
Pacific Goldberg(LA Lakers) 8-0 High Voltage(Golden State) 5-2 Disorderly Conduct(Sacramento) 3-3 Rey Mysterio(Phoenix) 3-4 Disco Inferno(LA Clippers) 1-7
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Post by the5thhorseman on Nov 10, 2010 13:59:01 GMT -5
The Heat looking pretty mediocre at 5-3. Maybe Bosh isnt that good after all and Miami is starting to look like Cleveland with less depth and Dwayne Wade.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Nov 10, 2010 14:15:48 GMT -5
Going to go see Bobby Eaton vs. Chris Jericho tonight.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Nov 10, 2010 14:34:18 GMT -5
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Massive G
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Post by Massive G on Nov 10, 2010 15:57:12 GMT -5
Tonight's Jazz-Heat game showed us an awful lot about who the Miami Heat are and what they want to become. You think you can make that judgment about a team whose entire roster was essentially overturned from last year and has played 8 games? Seems a bit hurried. Last night's Heat / Jazz game showed that if a guy has the best night of his life and makes more 3 pointers than he has in his entire career that a very good team can beat another very good team. The ending of that game was unlike anything I have ever seen, and the likelihood of it ever occurring again are microscopic. I like Milsap, and I think the Jazz are an excellent, well coached team with a lot of good players. I think they'll make the WC Finals. But people should discredit the heat at their own peril; on sheer talent alone they will blow out most teams they play, even if they haven't fully gelled.
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Post by Brick Killed a Guy on Nov 10, 2010 16:36:40 GMT -5
www.620ktar.com/category/suns-spotted/Trade rumors going around regarding Steve Nash. I know it's a longshot, but if he somehow ended up in Miami then he would be the "Randy Savage" of the group.
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Post by BlackHoleMark on Nov 10, 2010 16:44:34 GMT -5
Tonight's Jazz-Heat game showed us an awful lot about who the Miami Heat are and what they want to become. You think you can make that judgment about a team whose entire roster was essentially overturned from last year and has played 8 games? Seems a bit hurried. Last night's Heat / Jazz game showed that if a guy has the best night of his life and makes more 3 pointers than he has in his entire career that a very good team can beat another very good team. The ending of that game was unlike anything I have ever seen, and the likelihood of it ever occurring again are microscopic. I like Milsap, and I think the Jazz are an excellent, well coached team with a lot of good players. I think they'll make the WC Finals. But people should discredit the heat at their own peril; on sheer talent alone they will blow out most teams they play, even if they haven't fully gelled. You sound like a Cleveland Cavaliers' fan the last seven years. As presumptuous as it is to assume the the Heat will be like this the rest of the season, it's equally silly to write things like this off. The Heat, for the talent that they have in James and Wade, have some big problems that have to be solved. It's different if the team is undefeated and they lose this game, but they are 5-3. Just saying, "Oh well, they'll gel at some point" is dangerous. How long can that train of thought be used? 10 more games? 20 more games? What if this team is 10-6 in 8 more games? Is it just gelling? Or should the team start looking at ways to get better?
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Massive G
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Post by Massive G on Nov 10, 2010 16:50:57 GMT -5
You think you can make that judgment about a team whose entire roster was essentially overturned from last year and has played 8 games? Seems a bit hurried. Last night's Heat / Jazz game showed that if a guy has the best night of his life and makes more 3 pointers than he has in his entire career that a very good team can beat another very good team. The ending of that game was unlike anything I have ever seen, and the likelihood of it ever occurring again are microscopic. I like Milsap, and I think the Jazz are an excellent, well coached team with a lot of good players. I think they'll make the WC Finals. But people should discredit the heat at their own peril; on sheer talent alone they will blow out most teams they play, even if they haven't fully gelled. You sound like a Cleveland Cavaliers' fan the last seven years. As presumptuous as it is to assume the the Heat will be like this the rest of the season, it's equally silly to write things like this off. The Heat, for the talent that they have in James and Wade, have some big problems that have to be solved. It's different if the team is undefeated and they lose this game, but they are 5-3. Just saying, "Oh well, they'll gel at some point" is dangerous. How long can that train of thought be used? 10 more games? 20 more games? What if this team is 10-6 in 8 more games? Is it just gelling? Or should the team start looking at ways to get better? It might take a year. And it might never happen at all. But talent wise, isn't it a better bet that it will? Talent wins in the NBA, more so than in any other league. In large part its on Spoelstra to integrate a scheme that can maximize their collective abilities, but the players have to figure it out for themselves as well. And there is nothing silly about writing off a loss when Paul Milsap scored 219 points and was draining desperation 28 foot three pointers. And I wasn't even writing it off; I gave Milsap and the Jazz tons of credit, did I not? I don't think they have to look for ways to get better; they just need to play. With as many new pieces as they have, they just have to learn as they go. I don't see whats unreasonable about that. If the team is 10-6 after 8 more games, a lot of people are going to make very stupid statements about a team using a small sample size as evidence. I mean, people are already talking about trading Chris Bosh.
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 10, 2010 16:53:27 GMT -5
Even the best teams are going to lose games. Even future hall of famers will have off days. Such is the nature of sport.
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Post by Brick Killed a Guy on Nov 10, 2010 17:05:04 GMT -5
Even the best teams are going to lose games. Even future hall of famers will have off days. Such is the nature of sport. This. You're talking about a group of guys who haven't really played together all that much and are still trying to find their comfort zone. Sure, it would be great if they ran roughshod over the league and won the title this year (in fact, I'll admit that the whole Heat/LeBron/nWo saga is the only reason I'm paying attention to the NBA before April). But I still think they can gel with enough time to make one of the top 4 seeds in the East. Then once the playoffs start, anything can happen.
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Post by BRV on Nov 10, 2010 19:16:12 GMT -5
Tonight's Jazz-Heat game showed us an awful lot about who the Miami Heat are and what they want to become. You think you can make that judgment about a team whose entire roster was essentially overturned from last year and has played 8 games? Seems a bit hurried. Last night's Heat / Jazz game showed that if a guy has the best night of his life and makes more 3 pointers than he has in his entire career that a very good team can beat another very good team. The ending of that game was unlike anything I have ever seen, and the likelihood of it ever occurring again are microscopic. I like Milsap, and I think the Jazz are an excellent, well coached team with a lot of good players. I think they'll make the WC Finals. But people should discredit the heat at their own peril; on sheer talent alone they will blow out most teams they play, even if they haven't fully gelled. You can't judge an entire season by one game, but certain situations and individual moments can act as microcosms for the season. Last night, three moments stood out to me as primary reasons why we shouldn't automatically raise the banner in South Beach. 1. Paul Millsap's put-back as time expired in regulation. Millsap sped through the lane and right past Udonis Haslem and Chris Bosh. Neither Bosh nor Haslem made the effort to box out, and, to be honest, neither are really that good on the glass to begin with. Miami's lack of a legitimate post presence affects them negatively on both ends of the floor, and the elite teams with more skilled big men (Boston, Miami, LA Lakers) should be able to eat them up down low. 2. LeBron James' disappearing act in the final minutes of regulation and overtime. James took two shots in the last seven minutes of basketball last night. He recorded no steals, blocks or assists and only a single rebound. The mark against James throughout his entire career is that he is a front-runner who fades when the pressure intensifies. The Heat don't figure to be in many close games this season, but so far, James has vanished in one (last night) and had a solid finish in the other (opener at Boston). 3. Deron Williams: 21 points, 14 assists. Those numbers are indicative of Miami's lack of a true presence at point guard. Point guard is just as glaring a hole in Miami's lineup as center is. Their depth chart at point guard reads as follows: Carlos Arroyo, Mario Chalmers, Eddie House. None of those three are true point guards, and unless Chalmers has a break-out, a la Rajon Rondo in 2007-08, the Heat's starting five are merely two superstars, one good player and two scrubs.
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Post by MGH on Nov 10, 2010 21:21:03 GMT -5
John Wall just got his first career triple double. Good job Johnny!
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Post by comahan on Nov 10, 2010 21:26:34 GMT -5
Milpsap's 11 in 28 reminds me of a lesser version McGrady's 13 in 35. That was so amazing.
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Post by MGH on Nov 10, 2010 21:46:53 GMT -5
Jazz rally from 18 down tonight to beat the Magic in Orlando.
Starting to think this isn't just Miami-centric.
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Post by domrep on Nov 10, 2010 21:48:53 GMT -5
JOHN WALL BABY!
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Post by triplethreatmark on Nov 10, 2010 21:49:31 GMT -5
Jazz rally from 18 down tonight to beat the Magic in Orlando. Starting to think this isn't just Miami-centric. Damn that Raven's flock always using last minute heroics. They never did that in the real WCW
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Post by britishbulldog on Nov 10, 2010 22:16:07 GMT -5
How the hell did the Jazz become Raven's FLock? Can't understand. They are the most clean cut good guys in the league. Damn they have been awesome the last week. Now if they can play an entire game I will be really impressed.
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Post by DamnYankee on Nov 10, 2010 22:25:45 GMT -5
The Knicks lose at home 122-117 to David Lee (I still love the guy to death) and the Warriors. Ugh, their third straight loss.
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Post by britishbulldog on Nov 10, 2010 22:29:44 GMT -5
If there was ever a time I wanted to hear Hot Rod make a call that would have been it.
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