Random thought on Sheamus...

[smoot]

...this may be just me, and I'm prepared to admit this, but:

Is it harder for you to take the Sheamus character seriously as a 'main event badass' with only one name?

I mean, in WWE "canon", people with one name are usually:
1) Pseudo-supernatural badasses (Kane, Vader, Mankind)
2) Obvious 'stage names' (ie, Edge)
or
3) Lower-tier people (Eugene, Luke, Butch, Primo, Carlito- most of the Divas are one-name-only, but that's different...)

Just sayin'. They don't even have to use it that much. There are a lot of characters who use one name (Last: 'Batista', 'Hogan', 'Austin', 'Orton', 'Goldberg', etc; First: 'Shawn', et al), but at least they have full names that announcers/promos and so on can use.

It's probably just me. But it's kind of like "That's Randy Orton, that's John Cena, that's Wade Barrett..." "Who's that?" "That's Sheamus." "Sheamus what?" "Oh, just 'Sheamus'."

(It doesn't help that 'Sheamus' isn't a particularly threatening sounding name, unless you're scared of old-time Private Investigators. )

[PKO]

I know it bothers quite a few people, but I don't really mind when wrestlers have only one name. Provided it's not a really common name that is bound to be used by another wrestler in the future (so Cena and Morrison couldn't just be called "John"). So Sheamus is okay in my opinion (Jamie Keyes becoming just Jamie is not).

[percymania]

Vader's full name was Big Van Vader. >_>

[Deleted]

Yeah, usually if it's a more common name it makes sense not to use that, and since at least in WWE's standards Sheamus isn't a common name, it kinda works, it further emphasises his Irish heritage as well, like his beautiful Irish skin.

[Bub (BLM)]

There have been solidified main-eventers named The Rock, Undertaker, and Triple H.

Sheamus' name is fine.

[smoot]

:

Yeah, usually if it's a more common name it makes sense not to use that, and since at least in WWE's standards Sheamus isn't a common name, it kinda works, it further emphasises his Irish heritage as well, like his beautiful Irish skin.

You could be right about that- my judgement's a bit off on that, seeing as "Seamus" or "Shamus" is the name of four of my cousins and (I think) Grimace's relative that sold Shamrock Shakes for McDonalds. And I could personally take at least three of those.

(Yes, I'm hedging my bets on Grimace's relative. Fella looks like he can donnybrook. )

There have been solidified main-eventers named The Rock, Undertaker, and Triple H.

"HHH" is short for something, "The Rock" was a nickname for 'Rocky Maivia' and (as Sara Undertaker could tell you) "Undertaker" is a last name.

[MyndSkape: A Poor Man's Virgil]

I still want to know if they dropped the O'Shaunessey part of his name because they didn't want Kofi, who's song is S.O.S., get confused with Sheamus O'Shaunessey (S.O.S.)

Because there's no way I'm getting those two guys confused. Ever.

["Hollywood" Cactus Matt]

Oct 7, 2010 16:10:56 GMT -5 Bub (BLM) said:

There have been solidified main-eventers named The Rock, Undertaker, and Triple H.

Sheamus' name is fine.

Yeah, and unless you actually remember the original Hunter Hearst Helmsley character, the name "Triple H" makes no sense whatsoever.

Every once in a great while they'll call him "Hunter," and Jim Ross would refer to him as "Helmsley" sometimes, but otherwise, nothing.

[smoot]

Oct 7, 2010 16:02:26 GMT -5 percymania said:

Vader's full name was Big Van Vader. >_>

I always wondered where the quotes would fall on that. "Big" Van Vader's one thing, but it could just as easily be "Big Van" Vader- brought to you by U-Haul!

In any case, OT: It occurs to me that even Santino Marella has a name besides "Santino"...

...and (just being a fan-theorist here), it might've had more to do with "Shaughnessy" containing "Shawn" than SOS impinging on Kofi Kingston. Like how guys named "Shane" rename themselves when Shane McMahon's near the roster.)

PS: My favorite spurious explanation for HHH was "It means Hungry Hungry Hippos- hence 'The Game'. He used to say things were for 'all the marbles', but he got sued and had to stop."

[YAKMAN is ICHIBAN]

Oct 7, 2010 16:26:44 GMT -5 smoot said:

PS: My favorite spurious explanation for HHH was "It means Hungry Hungry Hippos- hence 'The Game'. He used to say things were for 'all the marbles', but he got sued and had to stop."

LOVE IT!

[joey joe joe junior shabadoo]

Oct 7, 2010 16:34:38 GMT -5 YAKMAN is ICHIBAN said:

Oct 7, 2010 16:26:44 GMT -5 smoot said:

PS: My favorite spurious explanation for HHH was "It means Hungry Hungry Hippos- hence 'The Game'. He used to say things were for 'all the marbles', but he got sued and had to stop."

LOVE IT!

ALSO LOVE IT!

[drjayphd (feat. Pitbull)]

Oct 7, 2010 15:51:40 GMT -5 smoot said:

Just sayin'. They don't even have to use it that much. There are a lot of characters who use one name (Last: 'Batista', 'Hogan', 'Austin', 'Orton', 'Goldberg', etc; First: 'Shawn', et al), but at least they have full names that announcers/promos and so on can use.

I'd just figured it was exactly like BaCheeseTa. Sheamus has a full name, but they just don't use it. Maybe it would've helped if, oh, I dunno, they introduced the O'Shaughnessy at some point?

[Bo Rida]

Oct 7, 2010 16:26:44 GMT -5 smoot said:

PS: My favorite spurious explanation for HHH was "It means Hungry Hungry Hippos- hence 'The Game'. He used to say things were for 'all the marbles', but he got sued and had to stop."

It's his own fault, I knew he should have gone for chutes and ladders.

[bronson]

I think the biggest problem with Sheamus being regarded as a legit main event heel... Is the fact that they won't commit to him being a bad-ass or a coward. It's hard to value somebody that deeply, when they are inconsistant.

[smoot]

Oct 7, 2010 17:32:28 GMT -5 Bo Rida said:

It's his own fault, I knew he should have gone for chutes and ladders.

Hey- his Chutes and Ladders match against Mankind was one of the best PPV main events, ever. (Of course, it was a bastardization of Jake Roberts' trademark Snakes and Ladders match, but what are you gonna do, right?)

I mean, seriously- people had requested chute matches for years. Worth every minute.

[PTBartman]

Oct 7, 2010 17:32:28 GMT -5 Bo Rida said:

Oct 7, 2010 16:26:44 GMT -5 smoot said:

PS: My favorite spurious explanation for HHH was "It means Hungry Hungry Hippos- hence 'The Game'. He used to say things were for 'all the marbles', but he got sued and had to stop."

It's his own fault, I knew he should have gone for chutes and ladders.

Dave was going to go with Chutes and Ladders Batista but but didn't want CLB to be confused with Christian.

[smoot]

Oct 7, 2010 17:18:52 GMT -5 drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) said:

Oct 7, 2010 15:51:40 GMT -5 smoot said:

Sheamus has a full name, but they just don't use it. Maybe it would've helped if, oh, I dunno, they introduced the O'Shaughnessy at some point?

That's what I mean.
Having a full name lets you show that things have gone serious- by it being used.

For instance, when Mr. McMahon (still an announcer, in kayfabe) issued an announcement apologizing for "the actions of Scott 'Bam Bam' Bigelow...", it was kind of like parents calling their kid by their full name. You knew something was up.

[sniper47]

Sheamus sucks and is far from WWE Championship material .

[saintpat]

Oct 7, 2010 17:49:00 GMT -5 bronson said:

I think the biggest problem with Sheamus being regarded as a legit main event heel... Is the fact that they won't commit to him being a bad-ass or a coward. It's hard to value somebody that deeply, when they are inconsistant.

Oh, they've committed to a path there, the same path as with any heel:

When he's a contender, he's a Badass. When he's champ, he's a coward with no ability whatsoever.

How is that complicated?

As for Sheamus' name, they knew they were going to sign Alberto Del Rio so they gave the Irish guy one name so it would average out to two names each.

["Dashing" Dr.VonPhoenix]

"Sheamus O'Shaunessy" sounds better. Period. And he needs the intro to his theme back.

I blame Cher for this entire phenomenon with first names. Cher and, inexplicably, HHH. I also blame HHH for Mattel not releasing the hoverboard yet, though, so take that as you will.