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Post by rapidfire187 on Oct 28, 2010 21:04:11 GMT -5
Hogan, Austin, Rock, HHH, HBK, DX, Undertaker,Bret Hart, Kurt Angle, Mick Foley.
10 of the biggest WWF superstars of all time. Multiple championships, were all main eventing at times when wrestling was really hot.
Out of all of those themes, only 4 of them have vocals in their themes. Hogan was basically the exception to 80's theme music, where it seems like the vast majority was instrumentals. The early to mid 90's was basically the same too with the exception of HBK. Vocals didn't start showing up a lot until the attitude era. And even then, the vocals weren't really emphasized strongly and usually made the themes sound better. Jimmy Hart and Jim Johnson made the vast majority of WWF themes, and they were usually very good. The music CD's sold very well also.
So why is it that now, WWE has started paying outside bands and artists to record theme music for the wrestlers? It helps the bands more than it does WWE. Sure, using a well known artist or even a popular song can work very well when done right, but a huge portion of WWE themes are performed by groups that I had never heard of before, but hear a lot more about now that they've done a WWE theme. WWE is basically paying the bands for the right to give them airplay. When you have musicians that are willing to pay for radio and video plays, being paid to have your song on a show that consistently gets at least 3 million viewers a week has got to be a dream come true. Especially considering that your theme will probably be played on that show every week for several years.
It would just make so much more sense to use the old school style of music. Have Jim Johnson or even hire another in house composer if they had to make most of the themes from scratch. He is very talented in the way that he can make everybody's theme sound unique to them. I believe he would take input from the wrestler themselves sometimes as well. This sort of thing would seriously help newer guys get over.
What do you guys think?
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Oct 28, 2010 21:33:44 GMT -5
I absolutely agree with you. I much prefer the Jim Johnston style of entrance themes to the generic post-grunge for every wrestler that we have now. Nothing's memorable anymore, and that's really unfortunate.
Obviously there are exceptions here and there, but for the most part, themes are bland as hell nowadays, and I hate it.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 28, 2010 21:44:27 GMT -5
Doesn't Johnston still write a lot of the music before it goes to the various bands? I could have sworn I saw his name credited on John Morrison's theme.
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Post by wwebrandon2007 on Oct 28, 2010 21:55:13 GMT -5
Doesn't Johnston still write a lot of the music before it goes to the various bands? I could have sworn I saw his name credited on John Morrison's theme. Jim johnson does indeed write and have wrote almost all of todays themes. there is very few that were written by the bands themselves |
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Post by flatsdomino on Oct 28, 2010 22:33:13 GMT -5
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Post by xxx4lyfe on Oct 28, 2010 22:41:39 GMT -5
Some bands do sing for it, but Jim Johnston is credited for a lot of it. I know Downstait did Miz's, but Jim helped with it, along with Sheamus's, and probably a lot, if not all of the stars.
He's still the guy to be doing the things in the WWE music world.
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Post by Soultastic on Oct 28, 2010 22:52:58 GMT -5
He also wrote the lyirics for Voices.
Right now I think the only theme songs that probably have nothing to do with him are My Time Is Now (which might be a stretch) and Metalingus.
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Post by cool guy on Oct 28, 2010 22:56:49 GMT -5
Pretty sure 12 Stones wrote "We are one" themselves, too.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Oct 28, 2010 22:58:10 GMT -5
You know who's theme I marked for like hell every time I heard it? Ken Shamrock's. So badass. Every time I heard it I was like, "Oh man. Someone's gonna die."
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Post by Soultastic on Oct 28, 2010 23:02:14 GMT -5
Pretty sure 12 Stones wrote "We are one" themselves, too. I knew I was forgeting something. |
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Post by cool guy on Oct 28, 2010 23:09:34 GMT -5
Anyway, I have no problems with the WWE getting outside bands to do wrestler's themes, and I don't see why anyone would. The real problem is that they keep getting bands no one cares about to record songs that the WWE composers wrote themeselves anyway. I think "Metalingus" and "We are one" are two of the better themes right now, and that probably has a lot to do with the fact that they were written by some people other than the guys who've been giving us the music for years. WWE just has to do a little looking, that's all.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Oct 29, 2010 9:39:57 GMT -5
Yea I know that Johnson basically starts the songs and then the bands basically finish it up, but that's where the problem lies IMO.
Like...compare Batista's original theme to his Saliva theme. Same basic song, just made to sound more like an actual song than an entrance them. And it suffered for it I believe.
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Post by who throws a shoe?! on Oct 29, 2010 12:28:40 GMT -5
He also wrote the lyirics for Voices. Right now I think the only theme songs that probably have nothing to do with him are My Time Is Now (which might be a stretch) and Metalingus. Don't forget This Fire Burns. |
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Post by Soultastic on Oct 29, 2010 12:37:38 GMT -5
Right. Thanks. So the songs in which Johnston was not involved are:
-Metalingus
-We Are One
-This Fire Burns
-My Time is Now (maybe)
Let's see if we can add something else to the list.
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Post by Snaptastic on Oct 29, 2010 12:42:52 GMT -5
- Flight of the Valkyries if that counts.
Also the TV intro themes were wrote and recorded by other artists.
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Post by jrcz on Oct 29, 2010 14:03:48 GMT -5
The Game?
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Oct 29, 2010 14:18:56 GMT -5
Right. Thanks. So the songs in which Johnston was not involved are: -Metalingus -We Are One -This Fire Burns -My Time is Now (maybe) Let's see if we can add something else to the list. Maybe HHH's Motörhead themes? I think Johnston wrote lyrics for "King of Kings," but what about "The Game" and "Line in the Sand" (the Evolution song)? |
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Post by Soultastic on Oct 29, 2010 18:29:53 GMT -5
Right. Thanks. So the songs in which Johnston was not involved are: -Metalingus -We Are One -This Fire Burns -My Time is Now (maybe) Let's see if we can add something else to the list. Maybe HHH's Motörhead themes? I think Johnston wrote lyrics for "King of Kings," but what about "The Game" and "Line in the Sand" (the Evolution song)? The riff that plays during The Game while the high pitch guitar sounds and HHH does his water spit was part of a short lived instrumental version of My Time. Line in the Sand is based on Evolve, the song Evolution used before Mötorhead came along. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2010 13:04:15 GMT -5
Right. Thanks. So the songs in which Johnston was not involved are: -Metalingus -We Are One -This Fire Burns -My Time is Now (maybe) Let's see if we can add something else to the list. As a P.O.D. fan, I guarantee he had nothing to do with the creation of "Booyaka 619". Even though the song was written for Mysterio, Rey and Sonny of P.O.D. are real-life friends dating back to high school and the band wrote the song as a favor. |
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Post by ThatDamnPotato on Oct 30, 2010 14:23:45 GMT -5
OoOoOo I like this thread I had no idea it was 12 stones who sung We are one <3
And how about Drew Mcintyres theme?
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