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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Oct 20, 2010 20:39:28 GMT -5
WCW 2000. Just because you can still tell that TNA has some life left in them, and are not completely scrambling yet.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Oct 20, 2010 20:41:36 GMT -5
TNA 2010, mainly because things haven't hit the "Going down the shitter faster than Taco Bell induced dysentery" levels of suck yet.
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Post by wcw on Oct 20, 2010 22:09:50 GMT -5
People forget how bad WCW 2000 was. Yeah there was funny moments BUT you had to sit through a lot of crap that was hard to watch and the funny moments were only funny in retrospect as they were sad when they happened as you were watching the company with so much history go down the drain.
TNA is a company striving for an identity with a talented but often underused roster with a often bad creative direction thanks to Russo, But they are trying and haven't flushed everything away.
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Post by Prince of Darkness on Oct 20, 2010 23:37:27 GMT -5
TNA 2010, only because the people who were old, washed up geriatrics, hardcore has beens, and drug addled lunatics back in 2000 are still running the show in TNA 2010.
Hogan, Bischoff, Sting, EV 2.0, Jeff Hardy, Scott Hall, X-Pac, Kevin Nash, the Nasty Boys, Dixie Carter and Vince Russo have no business being involved in wrestling. Ric Flair has more of a right to still be wrestling than the people I just mentioned, and he's old enough to be my granddad. Kurt Angle has more of a right, and he's a drug addled roid zombie who seriously needs help.
Why won't Vince just take TNA behind the woodshed, haven't we suffered enough.
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Post by Orange on Oct 21, 2010 0:02:31 GMT -5
TNA 2010, only because the people who were old, washed up geriatrics, hardcore has beens, and drug addled lunatics back in 2000 are still running the show in TNA 2010. Hogan, Bischoff, Sting, EV 2.0, Jeff Hardy, Scott Hall, X-Pac, Kevin Nash, the Nasty Boys, Dixie Carter and Vince Russo have no business being involved in wrestling. Ric Flair has more of a right to still be wrestling than the people I just mentioned, and he's old enough to be my granddad. Kurt Angle has more of a right, and he's a drug addled roid zombie who seriously needs help. Why won't Vince just take TNA behind the woodshed, haven't we suffered enough. I think you're kind of out of touch with TNA, X-Pac, Hall and the Nasties haven't been in TNA for a while, and last I heard Angle doesn't take steroids anymore.
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Post by percymania on Oct 21, 2010 0:12:41 GMT -5
At least I watched WCW in 2000. I can't say the same for TNA... >_>
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Post by Prince of Darkness on Oct 21, 2010 1:07:31 GMT -5
I think you're kind of out of touch with TNA, X-Pac, Hall and the Nasties haven't been in TNA for a while, and last I heard Angle doesn't take steroids anymore. That's no excuse. As good as he is, TNA kept Kurt Angle champion throughout 2009 despite carrying HGH, driving without a liscence, and stalking his girlfriend. The year opened with Hall, the Nasties, and X-Pac on the show, and the only reason Hall isn't back on is because he's in rehab,* the moment he's out, they plan on bringing him back. * Which TNA isn't paying for, the WWE pays for Halls rehab.
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Oct 21, 2010 1:27:08 GMT -5
As far as the whole "Who's on drugs/who's not on drugs" argument goes, at it relates to someone's value....I think this really needs to be said to the 12-18 year olds that get on here and blast Hardy (whoever) for being drug addicts......I guarantee you that at LEAST 3/4 of both the TNA and WWE locker rooms are on something. Whether it's pain pills, steroids, coke, weed, meth, or whatever......the bigger stars are usually immune from getting caught, but I guarantee that a lot of them are using also, they just have better ways of getting around the drug tests (unless they do something really stupid that can't be overlooked, ala Hardy/Angle.)
And yes, your favorite indy guy is probably on them too. Wrestling is a tough business with a lot of pain involved.....the heavy schedule for WWE probably makes a lot of their wrestler's problems worse, which is why steps have been taken in the last couple of years to ease that burden. However, treating these people like they're lepers because they have drug dependencies is being REALLY naive to the real deal, IMO. I've ignored it because I know that most of the people saying these things are probably teenagers that haven't even SEEN a drug, let alone used them.....I was the same way at their age. However, life can be rough sometimes, and when you're landing on your back, legs, head, whatever multiple times a night.....it can be even rougher. You want to get mad at someone, get mad at the front office who pushes and pushes their workers, and then distances themselves from those same workers as much as possible when it's realized they have a drug dependency.
Or as Booker T used to say, "Don't hate the player, hate the game."
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Post by Prince of Darkness on Oct 21, 2010 1:39:13 GMT -5
I have no doubt drug use exists in wrestling, and I don't care about it as long as:
1. It's not steroids.
Many a great wrestler has had his life and/or career ruined by the allure of a herculean physique:
Scott Steiner Kurt Angle Triple H, successful, but how much better would he be with healthy quads?) Chris Benoit Stone Cold Steve Austin
2. It doesn't affect performance.
Even if you're using a harmless drug, like weed, if it affects your wrestling ability, it's not a good thing. Look at RVD, when he wrestled John Cena for the title, he was blown up in 5 minutes, he needs to cut back, because it's killing his ability.
3. It's not being abused.
I understand why they need to take drugs sometimes, but if you're abusing any drug, even if you're taking it to help your career, you'll die young, or hurt those around you, and that has to be stopped.
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Oct 21, 2010 3:40:22 GMT -5
I have no doubt drug use exists in wrestling, and I don't care about it as long as: 1. It's not steroids. Many a great wrestler has had his life and/or career ruined by the allure of a herculean physique: Scott Steiner Kurt Angle Triple H, successful, but how much better would he be with healthy quads?) Chris Benoit Stone Cold Steve Austin 2. It doesn't affect performance. Even if you're using a harmless drug, like weed, if it affects your wrestling ability, it's not a good thing. Look at RVD, when he wrestled John Cena for the title, he was blown up in 5 minutes, he needs to cut back, because it's killing his ability. 3. It's not being abused. I understand why they need to take drugs sometimes, but if you're abusing any drug, even if you're taking it to help your career, you'll die young, or hurt those around you, and that has to be stopped. Drug abuse IS a bad thing.....I'm not going to argue that, but I think these people deserve our pity more than our scorn. I mean, I know we make these people into heroes in our minds, but at the end of the day they are just working like any other person, trying to make a living in a VERY tough business. They hurt themselves on a constant basis for our entertainment......I think we need to be a little more sympathetic when one of them gets addicted to the things that take the pains away from them doing that. Like Jeff Hardy.....I mean, this guy has been crashing through tables and falling off of ladders for the better part of ten years, and yeah....that was his decision, but he did what he had to do to get to the top, just like any other wrestler. Is it any surprise that he became dependent on the drugs that would take that pain away, even just for a little while? So why does that make him a scumbag? Because he's not supposedly Straight Edge? I wouldn't be surprised if CM Punk was actually on some sort of medication.....I mean, Jake "The Snake" was still doing the "Born Again" gimmick when he started drinking/doing drugs again. Foley basically confirmed this in his book. Point is.....stop judging people for things one has no personal experience with. Most of us on here are NOT professional wrestlers....we have NO idea what that life is really like. We form ideas on people based on what we see on TV/read on the internet/biographies, but none of that give a 100% of what the life of a wrestler is really like. Oh, and Austin's career wasn't ended due to steroids.....is was ended because Owen Hart dropped him on his head at Summerslam 97, injuring his neck. With surgery, he was able to go for a few more years, but when that ability was gone, it was pretty the end of his career.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2010 3:49:41 GMT -5
I'm probably biased, but I still look fondly upon everything WCW simply because I miss it and like the memories. Thus is why I went with WCW 2000.
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