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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 23:50:03 GMT -5
What you want is tna to succeed only if it puts on shows you like. Please explain why this is bad. What's wrong with people wanting something to be successful and entertaining to them? And it's not like their "good" ratings are significantly higher than their "normal" ones.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Oct 16, 2010 0:06:11 GMT -5
LOL Some of the people who say they want tna to succeed are the same people who complain when tna gets good ratings with "bad" shows. What you want is tna to succeed only if it puts on shows you like. Define "shows you like".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2010 0:48:36 GMT -5
I want TNA to succeed if they put on entertaining shows, have quality wrestling, build their younger talent convincingly, and have engaging stories that are played out in the ring. Because that would be better for their longterm existence than by rehashing nWo.
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Oct 16, 2010 1:48:18 GMT -5
Yes, I take wrestling seriously.
I grew up watching wrestling in my house and have followed it all my life. Thus, I have a strong emotional investment when I watch pro wrestling. Now I've only seen TNA since they've been on Spike and I originally loved what I saw. The six sided ring, the X Division, Samoa Joe killing everything in sight, Abyss with James Mitchell, and Styles and Daniels having awesome matches all the time.
Now, it is literally a watered down WWE and that just saddens me.
Not to mention that I'm working two jobs while attending college and don't have a lot of spare time. So when I give TNA 3 hours of my free time I expect something entertaining and not 100+ minutes of promos.
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Post by golding on Oct 16, 2010 2:10:07 GMT -5
No doubt about it. There's a great deal of overanalyzing, when it's really more enjoyable to sit back after a long day and just watch. There have been shows that I didn't like, but the vast majority of the shows I've watched since I've started watching have been enjoyable for me.
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Post by namso on Oct 16, 2010 3:27:05 GMT -5
I absoutely take it seriously. It's top athletes putting their lives on the line to entertain us and prove they are the very best. When companies show little to no respect for this, I take issue. Besides, worked or not, wrestling is a combat sport. Not a comedy show. its not a sport, and there's no real combat involved. so no, its not a combat sport.
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Post by JMA on Oct 16, 2010 4:03:23 GMT -5
Sometimes. I can't understand how anyone could, say, hate a wrestler--unless that wrestler has constantly done despicable and/or illegal acts.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2010 7:04:38 GMT -5
There is a huge bias against TNA on the net. Specially Meltzer, Wade Keller, Brian Alveraz and all the other newz reporters.
Any thing from the lighting, to color of wrestlers tights, to commercials, camera angles and a bunch of other stuff. That if you were seeing on any other TV show, you wouldn't think anything of it.
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Post by joeiscool on Oct 16, 2010 8:30:35 GMT -5
What you want is tna to succeed only if it puts on shows you like. Please explain why this is bad. What's wrong with people wanting something to be successful and entertaining to them? And it's not like their "good" ratings are significantly higher than their "normal" ones. uhhh, where did I say it was bad? It's a message board do what ever you like, but it is kinda silly to be like " I want tna to be successful, thats why I want them to do this type of booking" and to get up set when they don't do what you want them to do and they still are successful. You want them to do that type of booking cause you like it, not so much that if you actually want them to be successful.
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Post by joeiscool on Oct 16, 2010 8:33:34 GMT -5
LOL Some of the people who say they want tna to succeed are the same people who complain when tna gets good ratings with "bad" shows. What you want is tna to succeed only if it puts on shows you like. Define "shows you like". uhhh wouldn't that be up to the people who complain?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2010 8:34:36 GMT -5
What you want is tna to succeed only if it put on shows you like. I think we all want this.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 16, 2010 8:49:34 GMT -5
There is a huge bias against TNA on the net. Specially Meltzer, Wade Keller, Brian Alveraz and all the other newz reporters. Any thing from the lighting, to color of wrestlers tights, to commercials, camera angles and a bunch of other stuff. That if you were seeing on any other TV show, you wouldn't think anything of it. Ever read movie, video games, and television reviews? Because they are worst that the dirtsheets. And those same guys you named off as being biased against TNA must be biased against WWE because they criticized them, too. I rather see varied viewpoints than everything is perfect attitude. Even PWInsider, one of the more TNA friendly websites, has taken TNA to task on different subjects.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2010 8:52:36 GMT -5
There is a huge bias against TNA on the net. Specially Meltzer, Wade Keller, Brian Alveraz and all the other newz reporters. Any thing from the lighting, to color of wrestlers tights, to commercials, camera angles and a bunch of other stuff. That if you were seeing on any other TV show, you wouldn't think anything of it. It's not a bias as they have no invested interest in seeing TNA fail. What you are talking about is that many, many people have the opinion that TNA is not a product they enjoy and it could improve greatly. There is no conspiracy.
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 16, 2010 11:07:55 GMT -5
By the by, while I don't take wrestling seriously on a product level, I take the corrupt, awful business side of it VERY seriously.
A big reason why I gave up on wrestling lately was due to losing hope that the industry would ever catch up with the 20th century, let alone the 21st.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 16, 2010 11:09:41 GMT -5
No doubt about it. There's a great deal of overanalyzing, when it's really more enjoyable to sit back after a long day and just watch. There have been shows that I didn't like, but the vast majority of the shows I've watched since I've started watching have been enjoyable for me. See I don't know, when a show's shitty, it's more fun to be on here making bad jokes and posting to me. Had I tried to sit back and watch just by myself the other night, I probably woulda got bored quickly ( in fairness Raw does this sometimes too) or just had it on in the background; instead I enjoyed the camaraderie etc on here, and found the show hilarious in a Mystery Science Theater kinda way. So I guess I don't take it ALL that seriously, sometimes the shitty shows are just as much fun to watch as the good ones.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2010 11:20:52 GMT -5
There is a huge bias against TNA on the net. Specially Meltzer, Wade Keller, Brian Alveraz and all the other newz reporters. Any thing from the lighting, to color of wrestlers tights, to commercials, camera angles and a bunch of other stuff. That if you were seeing on any other TV show, you wouldn't think anything of it. It's not a bias as they have no invested interest in seeing TNA fail. What you are talking about is that many, many people have the opinion that TNA is not a product they enjoy and it could improve greatly. There is no conspiracy. I'm not saying there's a conspiracy. I'm saying there's people out there that expect TNA to cater 100% to them. When it doesn't they completely overreact and call TNA idiots and say they're going out of business within a year. There's not liking something, then there's just being a whiney baby.
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Post by xxx4lyfe on Oct 16, 2010 11:23:58 GMT -5
It's not a bias as they have no invested interest in seeing TNA fail. What you are talking about is that many, many people have the opinion that TNA is not a product they enjoy and it could improve greatly. There is no conspiracy. I'm not saying there's a conspiracy. I'm saying there's people out there that expect TNA to cater 100% to them. When it doesn't they completely overreact and call TNA idiots and say they're going out of business within a year. There's not liking something, then there's just being a whiney baby. It isn't catering to us 100%. It should be catering to the majority, and the MAJORITY say... TNA sucked last Thursday. Go figure.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2010 11:45:45 GMT -5
I'm not saying there's a conspiracy. I'm saying there's people out there that expect TNA to cater 100% to them. When it doesn't they completely overreact and call TNA idiots and say they're going out of business within a year. There's not liking something, then there's just being a whiney baby. It isn't catering to us 100%. It should be catering to the majority, and the MAJORITY say... TNA sucked last Thursday. Go figure. The majority of the internet fans may say that. But that's not all fans. The last Impact had the highest rating since January 4th. Are you saying everyone chose to watch a show they hated?
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Oct 16, 2010 12:39:48 GMT -5
To tell the truth, the one thing I actually can take seriously about wrestling is the pain the wrestlers put themselves through for the fans' enjoyment. That, combined with their acting skill and athleticism earns them a lot of respect from me.
But as for a good chunk of the characters I see, and the storylines? No. I enjoy it on the level of a big comic book come to life, and isn't that enough? If I make a joke to a friend about Flair looking like a crazy old man off his meds, it doesn't mean I don't appreciate the hell he puts his body through for the crowd and viewers.
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Post by joeiscool on Oct 16, 2010 12:53:49 GMT -5
I absoutely take it seriously. It's top athletes putting their lives on the line to entertain us and prove they are the very best. When companies show little to no respect for this, I take issue. Besides, worked or not, wrestling is a combat sport. Not a comedy show. its not a sport, and there's no real combat involved. so no, its not a combat sport. it's still real to me dammit
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