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Post by Dave at the Movies on Oct 1, 2010 7:04:27 GMT -5
We are getting closer and closer to Bound For Glory and I think I finally have this whole thing figured out. Or at least I have more of an idea of where they are going with it.
I have to tell you it's hard to say whether this was the plan since the beginning or not. I mean Hogan came in last January and the 10.10.10 date is a big date and interesting date to pull something like this off. So all the unanswered storylines(Sting turning heel, Abyss turn on Hogan, Samoa Joe getting kidnapped) I think there is a big possibility that all these loose ends will be answered at Bound For Glory and in a way where all of them will make sense.
If you want to know what I'm getting at I'll show you the video and you can see for yourself. At the end of the video you will know exactly who THEY will be the and rest of the video will explain how the storyline makes sense.
Sure a lot of people don't want to see a new version of the NWO but at this point I just don't see what else it could be. It just all makes too much sense when you put the pieces together. Also you have to remember the fact that Bound For Glory next week is taking place at The Ocean Center in Daytona.........the exact same place where Hogan turned heel back in 1996 at WCW's Bash at the Beach.
I'm not huge on this idea but if they use it to get younger guys over I can see it doing okay. From what it looks like to me it looks like Anderson will turn heel and be the "hollywood hogan" of this new version of the NWO and will win the world title at Bound For Glory.
I have a feeling they may have planned this from the very very beginning last year when they brought Hogan and Bischoff in. I don't think everything went according to plan but I think the overall storyline has been this one storyline all along.
I could be wrong about that but I just don't see how they could screw up the writing that bad and leave so many loose ends especially when all the key figures in the unanswered storylines(Joe, Jarret, Sting, Abyss) are involved.(I also think that Scott Hall and Syxx and Eric Young would have been a big part of it if Hall and Syxx hadn't been fired)
I have to say I thought this was the direction they were going to go right when they brought in Hogan and Bischoff but I thought they would have pulled the trigger much much faster. IF they really did plan it to go this way with it being a big conspiracy I kind of have to give them credit for making everyone wonder but also dropping hints.
So what do you guys think? Does it make sense? At this point I just can't see it being anything else. There is just way too many coincidences for it not to be.(Sting being involved and warning everyone, Hogan and Bischoff strangely coming in as faces,)
The video really puts it in perspective and I have to think that if this was planned from the beginning from when they brought Hogan in then it was executed with a lot of complicity and makes me want to applaud it even if it was already done years ago in 1996 in a different way.
BTW as for Fourtune I have a feeling they will turn face and possibly join forces reluctantly with EV2(along with other singles like Jeff Hardy, Kurt Angle, and RVD) to take on this new big heel stable trying to take over the whole company.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Oct 1, 2010 8:02:48 GMT -5
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Post by Grotto on Oct 1, 2010 8:08:22 GMT -5
I think that would be very interesting. But is that a little too complicated for a wrestling company to give this much forethought?
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Post by Brian Suntan on Oct 1, 2010 8:14:48 GMT -5
Great video, but really, there was more chance of the finale of 'Lost' tieing up all that show's loose ends than there is here.
My prediction is that when 'They' are revelead, it will be a very cool moment. However I also predict that it will lead to something utterly boring and overdone, namely 'Faction Wars'. These things never get young guys over.
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Post by bob on Oct 1, 2010 8:19:13 GMT -5
in the video all the peices make sense.....except for Jarrett
I'm thinking Joe in place of Jarrett
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Oct 1, 2010 8:36:16 GMT -5
in the video all the peices make sense.....except for Jarrett I'm thinking Joe in place of Jarrett No I think Joe and Jarret are both in on it. Think about it. Jarret was the founder of TNA. Then TNA had trouble financially and they had to sell the majority stake in the company to Panda Energy. Thus putting Dixie in charge. Dixie is more of a character on TNA now. It makes sense. How does Jarret get his creation back?........by bringing in Hogan and Bischoff and secretly being in cahoots with them all along. Knowing their past and orchestrating the NWO Jarret knows that if anyone can get his company back it is them. Joe is just a pawn. That is why Kevin Nash wants him to walk away from it and join them in battling THEY instead of joining THEY. Bischoff set up Joe to get kidnapped and THEY convinced him to join them.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Oct 1, 2010 8:41:59 GMT -5
I think that would be very interesting. But is that a little too complicated for a wrestling company to give this much forethought? I really believe that this was the plan all along but I think they had a few bumps in the road that they didn't see coming such as Hall and Pac getting fired and Sting not being able to wrestle due to his bad rotator cuff shoulder injury. I think overall they were always on track but I believe they changed quite a things up a little bit since some things didn't go their way. If this was the plan they had all along for bringing in Hogan back in January you have to remember that that means it was a very long thought out storyline. I mean it's been like nine months. I could be wrong but there is just too many stuff that goes together to make it work. It really all makes sense for the most part to me with just a few foggy things in there and also the fact that I don't know how they are going to execute it at Bound For Glory(although I thnk Anderson winning the title is a big part of it) and also I don't know what they will call this group since they can't use NWO...........although I have a feeling it is going to be much more about Jarret getting his company back from Dixie and not so much about a knockoff NWO stable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2010 9:32:19 GMT -5
At this point, I'm just not that interested in the storyline. It involves a bunch of people I don't care about. Abyss, Sting, Hogan, Bischoff, Hardy, RVD....and now RUSSO? Ha, this storyline has been dead in the water since Joe's nation of violence flopped.
And rehashing ANOTHER gimmick from the past that no one cares about anymore? I really hope not.
The video was pretty good though - this guy should be working for TNA.
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Post by lovingway on Oct 1, 2010 10:39:50 GMT -5
This video and angle is well to thought out for TNA
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Post by vivix on Oct 1, 2010 10:49:11 GMT -5
I'd like if they were either TNA originals that are parts of other groups or if They were some of the older guys but I don't like Hogan being in it.
So my two personal options: Abyss-AJ-Lethal-Storm-Harris-Daniels-Jarrett
Abyss-Anderson-Moore-Neal-Hardy(both if Matt is free from WWE)-Morgan-Bischoff
Anderson seems the most likely if not for nothing else than the build up Hogan/Bischoff gave him, remember he's someone that could change TNA and be the world champion. Well he's getting his first chance on 10.10.10
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Post by GaTechGrad on Oct 1, 2010 13:58:05 GMT -5
Sounds like the "They" storyline was originally intended for Samoa Joe. But it was handed over to Abyss after Joe got into trouble.
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Post by Jeremy on Oct 1, 2010 14:03:58 GMT -5
They = Tessmacher's breasts. They control Abyss.
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Post by zeez on Oct 1, 2010 15:28:06 GMT -5
So why is Anderson a part of this? Because Hogan and Bischoff brought him in? I don't understand that. And what about The Pope? Does he play a role or are they just using him or what? Plus Bischoff, Hogan, and Jarrett will all become evil and that means Sting and Nash are right and become good? This is complicated. I don't know if TNA is capable of putting something like this together let alone make it work.
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Post by wcw on Oct 1, 2010 15:35:53 GMT -5
Its nothing long term. Its something they (TNA creative mainly Russo) probably had a long term idea for back in January but then it shifted gears, then shifted gears again and again to the point were the hints they were dropping in Jan to March aren't a representation of the current plan and probably not even the hints they were dropping in April to June aren't even representative of the long term plan.
I love to think that this is some sort of long winding plan that will pay off big but in the end its Vince Russo a man with no long term planning what so ever. Yeah BFG might be entertaining and set up some stories where you are like wow I want to see where this is going. But in the end whatever interest is strum up Vinny Russo will kill it with nonsensical booking.
I would hope for some sort of Jarret wanting his company back from Dixie. So he gets Hogan and Bischoff to come into the company to sort of wrestle away control from Dixie. They need wrestlers to help them so they indoctrinate Abyss and bring in Anderson as their anointed champion. Then they also kidnapped Joe to further get more pieces their way.
Sting is the other side he sees what Hogan is up to. He tries to tell Dixie but she won't listen she wants him to buy into Hogan. So Sting tries to fight against Hogan over the course of time he gets Nash (Who feels betrayed by Hogan), and Pope (Feels like he is getting slighted by Hogan) to join his crusade.
At BFG Anderson wins by screwing over Hardy and Angle and does a heel turn. Hogan, Biscoff, and Jarret take away Dixie's power via contract shenanigans and set up a new heel factory with Anderson and Abyss at the top of it.
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Post by wcw on Oct 1, 2010 15:40:22 GMT -5
So why is Anderson a part of this? Because Hogan and Bischoff brought him in? I don't understand that. And what about The Pope? Does he play a role or are they just using him or what? Plus Bischoff, Hogan, and Jarrett will all become evil and that means Sting and Nash are right and become good? This is complicated. I don't know if TNA is capable of putting something like this together let alone make it work. It could be because Anderson was Bischoff's and Hogan's anointed champion. Pope could be a guy who joined Sting and Nash because he felt like management (Hogan and Bischoff) screwed him over. Then once Hogan and Bischoff are revealed to be "They" Pope becomes face by simply being against them. Don't get me wrong a long drawn out conspiracy would require Russo to know how to be patient with a story or be a master of the retcon and he is neither.
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Post by dav on Oct 1, 2010 15:48:49 GMT -5
Didn't Pope lose clean to Anderson at No Surrender though? It'd actually make sense if they'd hinted it at the PPV with a crooked ref or something along those lines.
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Post by vivix on Oct 1, 2010 16:05:23 GMT -5
Yeah Pope lost clean but Hardy/Angle didn't win a chance to main event BFG either so management screwed him by not giving him a chance.
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Post by JMA on Oct 1, 2010 16:29:10 GMT -5
The only invasion I'd be interested in would be an ROH one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2010 17:35:55 GMT -5
Yeah Pope lost clean but Hardy/Angle didn't win a chance to main event BFG either so management screwed him by not giving him a chance. What? Pope didn't get screwed - he lost clean. Angle and Hardy went to a draw. If Pope went to a draw with Kennedy he'd have a case. Really weak premise for a turn if you ask me.
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Post by vivix on Oct 1, 2010 18:25:28 GMT -5
Yeah Pope lost clean but Hardy/Angle didn't win a chance to main event BFG either so management screwed him by not giving him a chance. What? Pope didn't get screwed - he lost clean. Angle and Hardy went to a draw. If Pope went to a draw with Kennedy he'd have a case. Really weak premise for a turn if you ask me. Angle/Hardy didn't WIN, the tournament was for the winners to face at BFG. Technically I think Anderson should've been awarded the belt.
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