BFG plans started back in March

[Dave at the Movies]

According to Eric Bischoff

What event or events from his WCW/WWE career he can compare the “road to Bound For Glory” to (in terms of preparation, build-up, & hype) and when TNA actually started planning their ideas & concepts for this Sunday’s Bound For Glory Pay-Per-View: “In terms of preparation, the two that come to mind: Starrcade (’97), Hogan & Sting obviously was a big one, because it was a long-term build. It wasn’t a month-to-month kind of Pay-Per-View typical build; it was something we built for 12 months. Bash at the Beach (’96) when Hulk Hogan turned was something that also had a long term plan and build associated with it. Those are the two that come to mind. That’s what I really enjoy doing, is when you have the ability to build for a Pay-Per-View over the course of three months, four months, six months…whatever it may be. That’s not just a luxury we have anymore with twelve Pay-Per-Views. There’s so much pressure to spend three weeks promoting, four weeks promoting, boom you have a big Pay-Per-View, then you start from scratch, and you’re building again to the next Pay-Per-View. This is one where we said ‘Let’s really build it.’ We really started really planning this one and structuring it back in March of this year. I’m excited about it.”


That is interesting for the fact that Samoa Joe cut this promo on March 29th.




I think TNA may have something up their sleeve this time. I could be wrong but there is something in the back of my mind that makes me think they are going to surprise everyone with something. I don't quite know what it is but something just tells me that people will be talking about it.

[Threadkiller [Classic]]

I hope this works out well. I really do enjoy long-form storytelling in professional wrestling because, if done well, it can be one of those rewarding experiences that can really validate a fan's continued viewership in the product. Because I know a lot of girls in high school who watched Raw from Test/Stephanie's wedding through the love triangle with Kurt Angle JUST for that storyline...and summarily stopped watching when the angle petered out like a soft fart. Granted, in today's day and age, people go down with injuries/get busted for wellness, and that makes it really difficult to tell long stories - but who says you can't plan ahead? The tighter the story, the easier it'll be to weave people in and out (the Nexus storyline alone has roped in so many superstars while ejecting those that were injured/fired/not ready for primetime with little hassle). I'm nothing if not optimistic about this "They" storyline. Although I must say, if Joe had chewed the scenery any more in that promo, he'd have gained another thirty pounds.

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I hope its good and Bischoff is not blowing more smoke, because TNA really needs a win at this point

[Arthur Digby Stamp]

He must be talking about the "They" storyline, because the whole deal about Angle's quest to run through the top 10 and win the title got screwed up in a big way by TNA's lack of foresight in regards to RVD's title run.

[nerdinitupagain]

Hogan turning at BotB was long term planned? Haven't Hogan and Bischoff both said that Hogan only agreed to it the night before, and they still had Sting on stand by because Bischoff didn't think Hogan was going to go through with it?

[cabbageboy]

This is goofy. A good long term build is this: RVD wins and has a good title run. Angle goes through the top 10 and gets to RVD and we have an epic main event.

As I said in the "THEY" thread, the whole storyline has to fail since it's basically advertising a run in for a match where the viewer's desire is for RVD to get even with Abyss. The "THEY" nonsense is destined to prevent this.

[xxx4lyfe]

This will more than likely fail. Do I want it to? No.

And if this is some long-term planning....

THEY SUCK AT IT.

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People believe Bischoff's claims?

[Dave at the Movies]

Oct 7, 2010 11:31:20 GMT -5 cabbageboy said:

This is goofy. A good long term build is this: RVD wins and has a good title run. Angle goes through the top 10 and gets to RVD and we have an epic main event.

As I said in the "THEY" thread, the whole storyline has to fail since it's basically advertising a run in for a match where the viewer's desire is for RVD to get even with Abyss. The "THEY" nonsense is destined to prevent this.

How do you know they won't do the run in during the Nash/Sting/Pope VS Joe/Jarret/and whoever since Hogan maybe out?

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Oct 7, 2010 13:54:40 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

Oct 7, 2010 11:31:20 GMT -5 cabbageboy said:

This is goofy. A good long term build is this: RVD wins and has a good title run. Angle goes through the top 10 and gets to RVD and we have an epic main event.

As I said in the "THEY" thread, the whole storyline has to fail since it's basically advertising a run in for a match where the viewer's desire is for RVD to get even with Abyss. The "THEY" nonsense is destined to prevent this.

How do you know they won't do the run in during the Nash/Sting/Pope VS Joe/Jarret/and whoever since Hogan maybe out?

Why would they do that? I thought the "THEY" storyline centered around Abyss?

[Dave at the Movies]

Oct 7, 2010 13:56:13 GMT -5 @personman01 said:

Oct 7, 2010 13:54:40 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

How do you know they won't do the run in during the Nash/Sting/Pope VS Joe/Jarret/and whoever since Hogan maybe out?

Why would they do that? I thought the "THEY" storyline centered around Abyss?

It does but I have a huge theory that both storylines are connected. Sting's whole deception thing he was talking about has me thinking that the Abyss heel turn was just a smoke mirror.

Also this video kind of ties in a lot of the stuff pretty well.

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Oct 7, 2010 14:01:44 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

Oct 7, 2010 13:56:13 GMT -5 @personman01 said:

Why would they do that? I thought the "THEY" storyline centered around Abyss?

It does but I have a huge theory that both storylines are connected. Sting's whole deception thing he was talking about has me thinking that the Abyss heel turn was just a smoke mirror.

Also this video kind of ties in a lot of the stuff pretty well.

Okay - still working that theory?

So basically you're expecting Abyss and Anderson to interfere in the Joe/Hogan/Jarret match to give them the win over Nash/Pope/Sting?

That's a stretch, BUT I could see Joe interfering in Abyss vs RVD because Joe talked about "THEY" as well. Then during the Hardy/Angle/Anderson match - Joe and Abyss come out to interfere on Anderson's behalf. Then Hogan and Jarrett come out as well to assist in the beat down.

I guess that could happen, but I just can't imagine Joe, Anderson and Abyss in a stable.

[xxx4lyfe]

I can't imagine all that, with Joe and everything, but damn, that video is wickedly done.

Plus the SAW theme is chilling.

[Dave at the Movies]

To me it is just the only theory that makes sense at this point. Maybe TNA has a bigger rabbit and a huge surprise to pull out of the hat than that but with all the things with Abyss talking about THEY and Joe and Nash and Sting and Pope to me it just fits together really easily..........maybe even a little too easily and maybe they are going to swerve it and go anotehr way that no one sees coming which is probably what they need to boost ratings.

You have to remember with WCW when they went to Monday nights they had way more money than WWF. They had better wrestling and everything but it didn't get them over the top. All the money and good wrestling wasn't cutting. All they really needed was a great storyline and they got it with the NWO and that is what put them over the top. Not in ring action or money but a really good storyline that got people interested in wrestling again.

[joeiscool]

my guess is they would do what ever run in madness during the world title match.

[Bram wants to 'urt you]

Now it may seem simplified, old fashioned and well-worn, but isn't it a basic wrestling rule that if you are booking something over a long period, you give the fans a clue about what is coming and then make them wait for it to happen? Let the fans know WHAT is coming, but tease them about when it's going to occur so that when it actually happens they are eager and waiting for it?

The big problem with "they" and any other angle that has been brewing is that it is so convoluted and confusing (not to mention hugely watered down with all the other "surprises" that have occured between its inception and now) that the fans by and large are now apathetic towards it.

We all HOPE for something astonishing, ground breaking and truly innovative to occur at BFG, but honestly after all the lacklustre "things that will change the business forever" that we've had thrown at us since January, very few of us are actually expecting anything other than another damp squib.

Hogan's heel turn back in WCW was so astonishing because everyone knew that at the PPV, they were going to get the unstoppable babyface finally wade in there and sort out the nasty rebel heel faction. And then it didn't happen and everyone pretty much was taken by surprise.

"They" at this point, simply has too many possibilities to be a let down that while I hope it's amazing, realistically I don't see it being.

[Jimmy]

The Eric Young/Orlando Jordan vs. Ink Inc match was planned back in March too.

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If the "they" that Joe refers to are the same as Abyss, wouldn't Joe have the resources to help TNA to figure out who's putting Abyss up to this whole thing and prevent it from getting worse?

I mean Joe's already tagging with Jarrett defending TNA's honor against Pope, Nash and Sting. He's on TNA's side, if he's had a run in with "They", he could definitely divulge some information.

[Paco]

Oct 9, 2010 0:43:38 GMT -5 Bram wants to 'urt you said:

The big problem with "they" and any other angle that has been brewing is that it is so convoluted and confusing (not to mention hugely watered down with all the other "surprises" that have occured between its inception and now) that the fans by and large are now apathetic towards it.

I don't find it very confusing at all.
Although, I will admit that discussing "THEY" theories with my fellow crappers helped paint the big picture for me.

I will agree that it may be too much to ask the casual wrestling fan but us nerds who can remember past what happened this week are seemingly putting the pieces together. Quite frankly, I'm kinda anxious to see if it's as *gasp* logical as it seems to be.

Also, it's been ages since I've had to think during a wrestling angle. I'm enjoying the mystery.

I hope they have a "Usual Suspects ending" kind of video package ready on the following Impact (pretty much like the "Who are They?" YouTube vid above).

[Dave at the Movies]

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Oct 9, 2010 0:54:42 GMT -5 @nichotine said:

If the "they" that Joe refers to are the same as Abyss, wouldn't Joe have the resources to help TNA to figure out who's putting Abyss up to this whole thing and prevent it from getting worse?

I mean Joe's already tagging with Jarrett defending TNA's honor against Pope, Nash and Sting. He's on TNA's side, if he's had a run in with "They", he could definitely divulge some information.

Maybe Joe and Jarret are in on it and are apart of THEY. Maybe it will be explained in kayfabe that Jarret is the one who secretly went to Hogan and Bischoff so he could get his company back from Dixie.