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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Sept 17, 2010 23:15:33 GMT -5
No one would really care if Flair won the title. Hell, I don't think the average viewer cares that Flair is there at all. Indeed I think this is sad. People always complain how Flair and Hogan are too old to be on TV, let alone a wrestling company. These two were the best and most successful wrestlers of their time and they're passing along their knowledge and trying to lend their credibility to these young wrestlers who grew up watching them and all people do is complain about TNA scooping up these legends that were discarded by the WWE. When these two eventually pass away, I hope people appreciate that they tried to give back to the business.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 19, 2010 16:30:35 GMT -5
It'd be an absolute joke all the way around for reasons that have already been well detailed.
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Post by golding on Sept 19, 2010 17:17:55 GMT -5
It frankly shouldn't happen. Flair's putting over the young guys, and that's the way it ought to be when you're a wrestler in your 60's.
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Post by Corporate H on Sept 20, 2010 11:47:33 GMT -5
I think it'd be cool if he was a heel and he snatched it up somehow for storyline purposes. He's the dirtiest player in the game, afterall. Just don't have him hold onto it too long, sort of like McMahon's couple of reigns.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2010 11:55:36 GMT -5
Indeed I think this is sad. People always complain how Flair and Hogan are too old to be on TV, let alone a wrestling company. These two were the best and most successful wrestlers of their time and they're passing along their knowledge and trying to lend their credibility to these young wrestlers who grew up watching them and all people do is complain about TNA scooping up these legends that were discarded by the WWE. When these two eventually pass away, I hope people appreciate that they tried to give back to the business. I'm not sure how Hogan and Flair are "giving back" to the younger wrestlers at this point. I've seen nothing to indicate Flair and Hogan are passing on anything to anyone. As far as I can tell they're just their to collect a paycheck, like everyone else. That being said, if thiers were strictly a backstage advisor role and they helped out in that way - I wouldn't see a problem, but the fact of the matter is they are no longer relevant to the viewing audience. If they were we would have seen a change in the viewing audience, but we haven't.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Sept 20, 2010 17:30:13 GMT -5
I think this is sad. People always complain how Flair and Hogan are too old to be on TV, let alone a wrestling company. These two were the best and most successful wrestlers of their time and they're passing along their knowledge and trying to lend their credibility to these young wrestlers who grew up watching them and all people do is complain about TNA scooping up these legends that were discarded by the WWE. When these two eventually pass away, I hope people appreciate that they tried to give back to the business. I'm not sure how Hogan and Flair are "giving back" to the younger wrestlers at this point. I've seen nothing to indicate Flair and Hogan are passing on anything to anyone. As far as I can tell they're just their to collect a paycheck, like everyone else. That being said, if thiers were strictly a backstage advisor role and they helped out in that way - I wouldn't see a problem, but the fact of the matter is they are no longer relevant to the viewing audience. If they were we would have seen a change in the viewing audience, but we haven't. I don't agree. We don't know what goes on behind the curtain, but I'm sure the younger wrestlers don't hesitate to pick the brains of 2 of the greatest to ever lace up the boots. They're relevant to the viewing audience because they are two of the greatest in wrestling, and this is a wrestling show. They aren't collecting titles and going over younger talent, but one is representing management on tv and the other is lending his name and credibility to a group of wrestlers whom he feels are the best in the company. They're trying to get the company and the younger guys over. whether there's a change in the audience, that's not their fault, it's TNA's marketing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2010 18:09:49 GMT -5
I'm not sure how Hogan and Flair are "giving back" to the younger wrestlers at this point. I've seen nothing to indicate Flair and Hogan are passing on anything to anyone. As far as I can tell they're just their to collect a paycheck, like everyone else. That being said, if thiers were strictly a backstage advisor role and they helped out in that way - I wouldn't see a problem, but the fact of the matter is they are no longer relevant to the viewing audience. If they were we would have seen a change in the viewing audience, but we haven't. I don't agree. We don't know what goes on behind the curtain, but I'm sure the younger wrestlers don't hesitate to pick the brains of 2 of the greatest to ever lace up the boots. They're relevant to the viewing audience because they are two of the greatest in wrestling, and this is a wrestling show. They aren't collecting titles and going over younger talent, but one is representing management on tv and the other is lending his name and credibility to a group of wrestlers whom he feels are the best in the company. They're trying to get the company and the younger guys over. whether there's a change in the audience, that's not their fault, it's TNA's marketing. You're right - we don't know so they could just be ignorning everyone not in their pay grade for all we know. Or the reverse - I grant you. As far as being relevent to wrestling TODAY - I'd disagree and the ratings would seem to support that idea. Hogan and Flair don't do diddly squat for ratings. You can blame the marketing if you want, but I believe that in 2010 Hogan and Flair just aren't relevent any more. In their prime they were the greatest, but now its either "Those old guys are STILL wrestling?" or "Who are those old dudes wrestling?" In general, the public agree with that sentiment as the ratings have decreased slightly since they've been brought in. Some things you can blame on marketing, but some things just need to be taken at face value. I think Flair's a riot, but he's basically doing 30 year old schtick in a business with an ever-decreasing shelf life.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Sept 24, 2010 2:53:03 GMT -5
I'm going to have to disagree with most everyone. I'd mark oput like a 7 year old if Flair won the title. Hell, he pinned Orton semi-clean when he was champ during Flair's If I lose I retire thing, and he's in better shape now. Do the same with the title on the line.
As for not being relevant, at the very least they're bringing the nostalgia crowd in. I'm STILL waiting for Hogan vs. Flair to happen again, and I doubt I'm the only one.
Flair may be old, but he's one of the greatest ever. He's lost a step or two over the years, but he's still as good as most of the guys half his age. Or 1/3. And like Satchel Paige or Babe Ruth, you can still hang with the young guys when you're old if you're that great. Flair is that great. And Hogan's a close second.
I'm so sick of the "He's too old" rants. Being old doesn't make you bad. being young doesn't make you good. And vice versa.
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