Flair - Title

[diggitydubz]

Just hear me out here, but does anybody think it would be cool *IF* Ric Flair had a short reign as TNA Champion? I know, I know - he's old and shouldn't be wrestling. But, another reign would boost his 'acknowledged' career total to 17 and at some point in his life, you have to think that he'll make some sort of appearance in WWE. What better way to ensure TNA's legacy than with a World Title Reign for the wrestler with the most reigns?

Your thoughts?

[Perpetual Nirvana]

I don't get what your saying. Are you saying Flair should get the world title so when he eventually shows up in the WWE again they'll call him a 17 time world champion thus recognising TNA? Because that won't happen. Christian isn't recognised as a world champion in the WWE. Neither is R-Truth. Why would Ric Flair be any different?

[diggitydubz]

I get what you're saying, but I think Flair's the kind of guy who might stray from the script so to speak and simply refer to himself as a 17-Time Champion on WWE TV.

[The Spelunker!]

I think he means that it's a recognized world title, unlike a lot of the territories and minor indies.

I agree it'd be cool for the TNA title to have a legacy that reads Ric Flair, but I can't imagine a situation other than someone else who shouldn't hold the title getting it, and then losing to Ric in a rigged match.

Same reason I wouldn't mind something like a 1 night Hogan reign, and didn't mind Mick's short run. It's good for the title in the long run to have some big names on it other than Angle and Sting.

[Mayonnaise]

Considering WWE and Flair easily ignored 4 or 5 of his WCW/NWA runs, I could easily see the ignoring one from TNA.

[BitterAF]

Just because he wins a title in TNA doesn't mean the E ever has to acknowledge it.

If TNA wanted to put the belt on Flair, then I think he should have at least come in as a somewhat frequent wrestler. At least twice a month. Then after doing that for 7 months or so, do some Flair For The Gold type thing where he kind of does what Angle is doing right now saying he's going to take on any and all in TNA and that he WILL get a title shot at BFG and WILL win at BFG. IMO, that would help out then TNA title more, with a hard working guy putting in hard work to get there, and it may make BFG look like a big event (I still don't see how it's different from other TNA ppvs but that's a whole different thread).

[Ian Austin]

Aw HELL naww.

[Brian Suntan]

He could hold the TNA Title from now until he's 90, and if he went back to WWE they'd still act like he was just sat at home all that time.

[Deleted]

No one would really care if Flair won the title.

Hell, I don't think the average viewer cares that Flair is there at all.

[cabbageboy]

The man is also 61 years old. Would any wrestling company be taken seriously if they put the world title on a 61 year old man? Even the AWA circa 1980-81 with Gagne wasn't that goofy (Gagne was like 55 I think).

[wcw]

More harm then good in my opinion. Even if WWE acknowledged it (Which they won't they only acknowledge what they deem a legit title reign) what good what that do TNA? It would just further prove that TNA is a joke that marks for the WWE/WCW/ECW/whatever organization in the past that has had success.

If this was 2003-2005 and Flair was in TNA I say go for it, having Flair on the title at that time would have done more good then harm (In his mid 50's and at a time when TNA could have used the exposure and it could have gotten someone over). But now it just makes TNA look more small time and gimmicky.

Flair is a 20 time champ yet they discount 4 or the reigns yeah I think the WWE is going to discount that TNA one.

[lildude8218]

I thought this was going to be a suggestion that they rename the TV Title the Flair Title

[4real]

If Ric Flair was 20 years younger.....maybe 30, with the character he has right now then yes he should be TNA Champion. But otherwise no.

[Doctor Tull-eus S. Venture]

Sept 14, 2010 1:57:38 GMT -5 Perpetual Nirvana said:

I don't get what your saying. Are you saying Flair should get the world title so when he eventually shows up in the WWE again they'll call him a 17 time world champion thus recognising TNA? Because that won't happen. Christian isn't recognised as a world champion in the WWE. Neither is R-Truth. Why would Ric Flair be any different?

And that's something that still sticks in my craw.

As outdated as the national Wrestling Alliance may be, they still have a prestigious history that the WWE should recognize. Hell, they even did business with them in the late 90's (bringing their belt and showcasing it on TV for a time with Dan Severn).

When Christian and Killings held the title, it was still the NWA Heavyweight title. I could see WWE not recognizing the "TNA" World Title, but the NWA title victories for those 2 men should be mentioned.

[mcstoklasa]

Sept 14, 2010 9:50:40 GMT -5 @personman01 said:

No one would really care if Flair won the title.

Hell, I don't think the average viewer cares that Flair is there at all.

Indeed

[hughmorris]

It wouldn't do anything for the title and the E wouldn't acknowledge it anyway....just ask Jerry "the King" Lawler how many of his title reigns have been acknowledged by the E.

[smokey1980]

The Flair mark in me would kind of love to see it, even if it was terrible for TNA. And yeah, it would be a bad idea for TNA. Honestly, I don't even think he would do it. He has been laying down for everyone, doing business the way it's supposed to be done. Even on the rare occasion he wins (street fight with lethal), he makes sure to look completely overmatched.

On the subject of title reigns, did anyone else notice that whoever is editing the wrestling-related Wikipedia is now recognizing the WWA, WWECW, and USWA titles? They have Jeff Jarrett as a 15 time champion now with his two WWA reigns and his one USWA reign. I really wish there was a sanctioning body that took care of this sort of thing, because, in addition to being a Flair mark, I am also a title mark. I thought we were going by the PWI standard.

[Big L]

No

[ICBM]

I love Flair but no. In 05 when he came back off surgery and went over Hunter on TV and ppv I would have said yes. But now no not even for the thrill of it. No

[Incognito]

Sept 14, 2010 8:55:18 GMT -5 BitterAF said:

Just because he wins a title in TNA doesn't mean the E ever has to acknowledge it.

If TNA wanted to put the belt on Flair, then I think he should have at least come in as a somewhat frequent wrestler. At least twice a month. Then after doing that for 7 months or so, do some Flair For The Gold type thing where he kind of does what Angle is doing right now saying he's going to take on any and all in TNA and that he WILL get a title shot at BFG and WILL win at BFG. IMO, that would help out then TNA title more, with a hard working guy putting in hard work to get there, and it may make BFG look like a big event (I still don't see how it's different from other TNA ppvs but that's a whole different thread).

Agreed. It would devalue the belt. Imo it would cement the fact that winning the gold is not about hard work, effort, sacrifice or perfecting a moveset in order to beat the best in this sport.

It would remind me that writers and bookers are pulling the strings. There would be a lack of realism

It's one of the reasons why I didn't like Rob's win. Instead of having a long hard road to the top, going through a few guys before facing the elite of the company, it was just.....here you go.

I like gimmicks at the right time or the right place but to me Ric Flair as champ would defeat the purpose of giving the belt prestige because instead of the headline reading RIC FLAIR TNA CHAMPION, I would see it as 61 YEAR OLD MAN BEATS 29 YEAR OLD AT HIS OWN PHYSICAL GAME.

They are not going to win any UFC fans if the top guy is 61 years old. It would make it harder for TNA to ask us to take the belt, the champion and the company seriously if they could not set the example and take themselves seriously.