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Post by Magneto on Jul 5, 2006 8:53:00 GMT -5
Check houseshows and the like for Benjamin. Shelton/Kane/Foley/Flair/Mickie were all of the show this past week. That was because of DX idiocy and Vince segments. They will all be back next week.
The SS is a overpushed jobber act. There is not among them that has any chance of breaking out after this over under this gimmick.
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Post by Baron Von Bullshit on Jul 5, 2006 8:53:54 GMT -5
Again, how do you know the future?
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Post by Magneto on Jul 5, 2006 8:55:53 GMT -5
Vince McMahon knows the future and his future plans don't include pushing 5 gimmick nobodies for the second half of the year after this initial push. They have too much to do with Edge, Cena, HHH, Carlito, Trish, Mickie, Kane, Hogan, Flair, Foley, Umaga, Benjamin, and others.
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Post by Baron Von Bullshit on Jul 5, 2006 8:56:26 GMT -5
Are you Vince McMahon's right hand man?
Are you Vince McMahon?
How do you know these things?
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Post by Magneto on Jul 5, 2006 8:57:49 GMT -5
Because something similar happens every year for overpushed failures of the same accord.
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Post by Baron Von Bullshit on Jul 5, 2006 8:59:43 GMT -5
So you have no basis for this argument, and as such, are just pulling these "predictions" out of your ass.
Next please.
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Post by Magneto on Jul 5, 2006 9:02:21 GMT -5
Snitsky failed
Chris Masters failed
Orton hasn't lived up to sh** yet
Carlito is floundering
Umaga will be nothing once he loses.
It's not telling the future. It happens every year. Common sense has proven me right, not having psychic ability.
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Post by Baron Von Bullshit on Jul 5, 2006 9:05:16 GMT -5
Snitsky was a joke. The only reason he was hired was because Stephanie McMahon thought his promos were so horrible, they were funny.
Chris Masters is in rehab, that hardly counts as a failure.
Orton is one of the top heels in WWE. That's nothing?
Carlito is an over face. He's feuding with Johnny Nitro over IC gold, that's floundering?
Umaga is mediocre too? But wait, wouldn't that mean he already meets the "mediocrity quota" for the year, and thus negates your argument of the Spirit Squad being mediocre cast offs waiting for the chopping block?
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Post by Magneto on Jul 5, 2006 9:11:36 GMT -5
Snitstky was a joke but was pushed hard in late '04 with wins over Kane and not really losing during that year's Survivor Series. He stayed strong until Kane came back and slapped him around.
Chris Masters was given a HUGE push for months upon months that no one cared about. Once they realized the fans cared more about Carlito, he became a jobber until he exposed for the drug user that he secretly was.
Orton is no top heel. He's a midcard heel that gets female screams one week and no reaction the next. He hasn't won a match of any importance all year long and remains nothing on Raw.
Until Carlito gets the IC title and gets more mic time like he had last year, he won't have his proper place on Raw either. Getting 5 minute matches against Nitro that include botches are hardly anything to brag about.
Umaga is already a flop and once the SS ups the belts to the Highlanders or whoever they will in under 3 months, they won't be NOTHING on Raw. Period.
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Post by Baron Von Bullshit on Jul 5, 2006 9:14:31 GMT -5
Snitstky was a joke but was pushed hard in late '04 with wins over Kane and not really losing during that year's Survivor Series. He stayed strong until Kane came back and slapped him around. Yeah, Kane slapped him around, the angle was finished. Snitsky was never meant to last longer than that. He's been kept around because he's good fodder. His push wouldn't have stopped if he didn't get caught injecting shit in his ass. Plain and simple. So beating Kurt Angle means nothing now? So Carlito being over and actually making people give a damn about this feud means he's not successful? Is RVD supplying the shit you're smoking? You didn't answer my quota question. |
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Post by Magneto on Jul 5, 2006 9:24:04 GMT -5
His win against Angle was for nothing because Angle is on aother show.
Masters was jobbing left and right before he was exposed as a drug abuser. His push was over.
Carlito is over but where have the fans shown interest in this Nitro crap? They care more about Melina vs Trish at this point.
Umaga and the SS are both gonna be non entities during the second half of the year.
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Post by Baron Von Bullshit on Jul 5, 2006 9:25:05 GMT -5
Are you a mind reader? Do you take polls and canvas door to door to see if this is what people think?
Stop pulling "facts" out of your ass and come back when you have a solid argument. Please.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Jul 5, 2006 9:53:32 GMT -5
My inital comment remains the same though .... in 5 minutes, 5 male cheerleaders who have basically used a numbers advantage since they arrived on RAW to get there victories. Go over 5 other raw superstars in 5 minutes!
Who does this help? ...
Unstable United (Duggan, Eugene, Vis, Venis & Snitsky) aren't benefiting in any way from this because they lost so easily. SO next time we see them they become even less of a threat and a joke.
Where are the near falls, the sneaky heels using heel tactics to keep themselves in the match. Where is the interaction of the two teams? ... Why was Viscera not used in the match, why didn't the referee force spirit Squad to have one man in the ring at a time!
The Spirit Squad don't look strong because there opponents are made to look weak.
Thus by winning this match so easily and quickly they don't have any true opponents in there league. They have no tag teams to defend the titles against because they keep jobbing them out!
If we remove Unstable United from RAW who do we have left in the midcard face area? .... the Highlanders ... and ... um .... that's it.
In 5 minutes on RAW creative have managed to job out the entire RAW face midcard. That is unbelievably stupid.
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Jul 5, 2006 10:30:48 GMT -5
The Place: Philadelphia The Show: RAW The Match: All 5 members of Spirit Squad vs Jim Duggan, Eugene, Big Vis, Val Venis and Snitsky. The Result: The Spirit Squad win after 5:22 via pin (credit 411mania) OK first let's just got through what the faces did here: Eugene: Gets beaten down mostly. Val Venis: Recently returned from injury, reward gets mostly beaten down. Viscera: Doesn't even get in the ring as he gets kicked/dropkicked off the apron. This is supposedly a 500lbs man who Big Show struggles to move, ridiculous. Hacksaw Jim Duggan: Throws a few punches, but does nothing else except lots of chanting "Hoooooo!" Snitsky: Gets to actually do some offense, but in the end is the one who recieves the big Top-Rope finish by the Spirit Squad. The Problems: For a start this match was only 5 minutes long!! ... 5 minutes!! ... how on earth can any audience care about any of the guys involved here? ... If it is all equal each wrestler gets about 30 seconds in this match. Usually when we have ten man matches they last a while. Now I know this isn't a survivor series match, but c'mon. Lita vs Torrie lasted longer. Ditch one of the pointless Vince segments and give matches like these some more time. It's Sports Entertainment supposedly, so entertain us with something based on sport!! Now this isn't an anti-spirit squad post. I actually think for a heel tag team they are doing well, but to have them go over 5 guys who have had a few decent achievements in the past is stupid. Especially so quickly. Viscera and Snitsky the two biggest guys out there should be treated as a cause for concern for the the Spirit Squad ( I Don't expect them to win, but at least show they are a threat!). But no instead Viscera doesn't even make a tag, and Snitsky gets a 5 man beat down! ... Referee? What referee? Overall what could have been a fun match, turned into a lazy mess. So next time two members of the Spirit Squad take on Val & Venis, why I should I bother watching? Afterall Kenny can just dropkick Vis off the apron and then they can all beat up Venis. These little things make the show tick, and this one really annoyed me! You are correct on all counts, sir. I judge this match to be a horrible bunch of filler created to give the Spirit Squad something to do. Phoning it in seems to be the WWE way nowadays. Well, you've always got ECW...aw hell.... |
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