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Post by comahan on Oct 31, 2010 15:18:19 GMT -5
- This past Thursday on Impact, Matt Morgan turned babyface as a reaction to Eric Bischoff trying to force Ken Anderson to compete with a concussion. Chris Nowinski, founder of the Sports Legacy Institute, was asked to comment on this storyline since his organization has been outspoken on attempting to inform the world on this very topic.
Here's what he had to say: "I was extremely pleased to see the concussion storyline as it was executed on TNA. I think it was a positive portrayal of the issue, and it was great to see Matt Morgan treated as the babyface for his concern about the consequences of returning to the ring so soon after a concussion. Matt Morgan has been an energetic support of the Sports Legacy Institute and this issue, and I was proud to see him able to reach millions with this message. However, I must note that I'm not happy the storyline was generated by a chair shot to the back the head of Ken Anderson, another SLI supporter, but I was told it was not scripted that way. I hope TNA notes the cause and effect of that hit and puts more in place (training, fines, etc.) to prevent future use of the chair in that manner and keep top talents in the ring."
Credit: PWInsider
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Post by H-Virus on Oct 31, 2010 15:40:58 GMT -5
Wonder what his thoughts were on the Eric-Young's-head-shot-gives-him-brain-damage-but-he-continues-to-wrestle storyline.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Oct 31, 2010 15:46:40 GMT -5
It seems they have ignored the Eric Young storyline though, like, he had brain damage, and now throws blow up dolls around.
Anyway, the angle is good, I like how they have the heel promoters here only caring about money and ratings instead of someone's health. I think the issue I, and others have with it, is how TNA really treats their talent, and the health of their talent. I didn't see the chairshot, but Raven brought this up before about if you know how to throw a chair shot, and the guy knows how to take it, it's perfectly safe. But, that seemed like it was a complete f*** up, and there was a lack of communication. Where as, the match with Dreamer and Raven where there were unprotected head shots, they probably had good communication, as Dreamer seemed fine afterwards.
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Post by comahan on Oct 31, 2010 15:48:46 GMT -5
It seems they have ignored the Eric Young storyline though, like, he had brain damage, and now throws blow up dolls around. Anyway, the angle is good, I like how they have the heel promoters here only caring about money and ratings instead of someone's health. I think the issue I, and others have with it, is how TNA really treats their talent, and the health of their talent. I didn't see the chairshot, but Raven brought this up before about if you know how to throw a chair shot, and the guy knows how to take it, it's perfectly safe. But, that seemed like it was a complete f*** up, and there was a lack of communication. Where as, the match with Dreamer and Raven where there were unprotected head shots, they probably had good communication, as Dreamer seemed fine afterwards. Theres a thread about the chairshot (w/ video) a few threads down. |
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Post by Andrew is Good on Oct 31, 2010 15:52:41 GMT -5
It seems they have ignored the Eric Young storyline though, like, he had brain damage, and now throws blow up dolls around. Anyway, the angle is good, I like how they have the heel promoters here only caring about money and ratings instead of someone's health. I think the issue I, and others have with it, is how TNA really treats their talent, and the health of their talent. I didn't see the chairshot, but Raven brought this up before about if you know how to throw a chair shot, and the guy knows how to take it, it's perfectly safe. But, that seemed like it was a complete f*** up, and there was a lack of communication. Where as, the match with Dreamer and Raven where there were unprotected head shots, they probably had good communication, as Dreamer seemed fine afterwards. Theres a thread about the chairshot (w/ video) a few threads down. Yeah, I just looked at it. That was really bad on Jeff Hardy's part. People talk about Anderson being made of glass, but my god, that was not Anderson's fault there. I go back to guys having good communication and being careful with each other, Jeff really f***ed that shot up. I contrast this with Dreamer and Raven taking care of each other with chairshots to the head, and that looked like it was supposed to be to the back, but Jeff f***ed that up. I know accidents happen in wrestling, but that could have been prevented and I really hope Jeff was reprimanded for that, because that didn't need to happen. |
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Post by lordkain316 on Oct 31, 2010 16:24:46 GMT -5
Did this jackass even watch ReAction? When Bischoff made Anderson's concussion out to be nothing more then a mild headache when compared to Hogan's list of injuries.
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Post by Z-A Sandbaggin' Son of a b!%@h on Oct 31, 2010 16:36:14 GMT -5
God you people are too sensitive. It was an accidentall shot to the back of KA's head... They are turning it into a story line. Good for them. This whole "concussions are bad" whine whine whine bull shit that has overtaken the wrestling world gives me a f'n headache... maybe it's giving me a concussion.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Oct 31, 2010 16:40:09 GMT -5
Did this jackass even watch ReAction? When Bischoff made Anderson's concussion out to be nothing more then a mild headache when compared to Hogan's list of injuries. Come on man, you really think Bischoff feels that way? It's part of the angle. He's a heel, he's saying it as a heel. Anderson has a legit consussion and has to be out, so they gotta work it into the angle. |
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Post by lordkain316 on Oct 31, 2010 16:47:09 GMT -5
Did this jackass even watch ReAction? When Bischoff made Anderson's concussion out to be nothing more then a mild headache when compared to Hogan's list of injuries. Come on man, you really think Bischoff feels that way? It's part of the angle. He's a heel, he's saying it as a heel. Anderson has a legit consussion and has to be out, so they gotta work it into the angle. I know it's an angle a rather tasteless angle if you ask me. |
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Post by zeez on Oct 31, 2010 17:15:46 GMT -5
TNA is doing the best it can with the given circumstances and I'll give them credit for it. I'll admit that I do really hate Bischoff for acting like a concussion is no big deal so bravo sir. Obviously, this will result in some changes to TNA's plans but they've handled it as best as they can.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2010 17:29:48 GMT -5
Come on man, you really think Bischoff feels that way? It's part of the angle. He's a heel, he's saying it as a heel. Anderson has a legit consussion and has to be out, so they gotta work it into the angle. I know it's an angle a rather tasteless angle if you ask me. If they ever DID ask everyone who said "if you ask me", there would be no pro wrestling, because nothing would be safe to tell. |
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Post by flatsdomino on Oct 31, 2010 17:31:53 GMT -5
I think it's a really important angle and statement to be made by TNA. It's good to see a promotion making a statement like this on the state of the industry and to make a statement for it's workers. It's an important issue that needsd to be addressed and that TNA did it so unflinchingly is one of the few things they've done right in the last year.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 31, 2010 20:49:53 GMT -5
He thinks Jeff Hardy can be TRAINED not to botch? Hahahahahaha
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Oct 31, 2010 21:30:40 GMT -5
Come on man, you really think Bischoff feels that way? It's part of the angle. He's a heel, he's saying it as a heel. Anderson has a legit consussion and has to be out, so they gotta work it into the angle. I know it's an angle a rather tasteless angle if you ask me. I don't think so. They clearly want to feature Ken Anderson and his injury prevents that to some degree. Instead of having him go away and return later to unpredictable fanfare, they are keeping him on the forefront and are treating this as something serious, which thanks to the efforts of Nowinski many more people are viewing it as such. Besides, if you want to talk about a tasteless version of this kind of angle, you have to look no further than the angle that WWE ran with McIntire and Matt Hardy earlier this year. Sure, Matt was supposed to be the sympathetic face in the angle, but the WWE thought that it would be acceptable to run with having McIntire "repeatedly" give Matt at least one new concussion each week with no repercussions to either his career or to Matt's long term health. The announcers basically acted like "Oh, Matt has had some issues with McIntire lately, and boy are they heated!" Inexcusable if you ask me, and it was clear that Matt's account that he and Drew came up with it on the fly in the ring only to have the writers poo-poo it and try to dismiss it as nothing important isn't completely inaccurate. |
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Post by smokey1980 on Oct 31, 2010 21:47:53 GMT -5
I have tons of respect for Nowinski and all the good he does in the sports world in general.
I just personally think the angle is making for some bad television thus far. I'd much rather they just do the right things behind the scenes without the storyline aspect.
And I do think they should drop the Eric Young thing, in light of all this. The dude has never needed a reason to act goofy before, so he doesn't need one now.
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Post by kleinnd on Oct 31, 2010 22:40:37 GMT -5
I actually enjoy this angle for 3 things:
1. It makes sense.
2. It makes those in power look more evil.
3. It makes the big payoff (TNA getting back control) for me even sweeter.
Honestly, I'd love to see more real life angles that revolve around sports into wrestling like betting scandals/fixed fights, low pay, health insurance, favoritism towards main stars, drugs/painkiller addiction (yeah I'd go there) etc. but hey it's just my opinion
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Post by cmpaul31 on Oct 31, 2010 22:54:47 GMT -5
I actually enjoy this angle for 3 things: 1. It makes sense. 2. It makes those in power look more evil. 3. It makes the big payoff (TNA getting back control) for me even sweeter. Honestly, I'd love to see more real life angles that revolve around sports into wrestling like betting scandals/fixed fights, low pay, health insurance, favoritism towards main stars, drugs/painkiller addiction (yeah I'd go there) etc. but hey it's just my opinion My feelings exactly. Most of TNA's attempts at combining real issues and events with kayfabe have been eyeroll-worthy, but this is one of a few that's really working for me. |
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Post by TripleMerc on Nov 1, 2010 4:17:09 GMT -5
I like the story, myself. Honestly one of the few babyface turns I've seen in TNA that made a lot of sense and made me really like the face in question. It's one of the true TNA things that actually does cross the line, so to speak, bringing real issues into wrestling storylines, something that while not new, is almost never done well. They're pushing boundaries with this storyline, but in a hell of a good way.
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Nov 1, 2010 4:29:21 GMT -5
The best way they could follow this up, imo, is for Morgan to quietly appear to fade into the background after Turning Point, but make it evident that he is fuming over the "new regime" and their disregard for the health of the wrestlers. Have him slowly get the non-Immortal/Fortune wrestlers (basically the TNA originals who aren't being used) behind him, saying how since Hogan and Bischoff took control, everything has gotten worse for them.
Then have one of the heels get badly injured and concussed (kayfabe) right before an important match/ppv. I'd go with AJ.
Have Immortal/Fortune goad him into "being a man" and wrestling, despite the fact that he is obviously in no condition to do so. Have him WIN. Letting him lose while injured is too obvious; he loses, they berate/beat him down. No, have him win, have the heels all celebrate his victory, but also sow the seed of him resenting the fact that they made him wrestle injured. Let him stew over the fact that he put his body and health on the line, won the match and the heels treat it as if it was just a normal, everyday thing.
Then slowly build his face turn/leaving the stable/joining Morgan and his crew from there.
If they are going to run with the concussion/health issues angle, the last thing they want to do is rush it.
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Post by TripleMerc on Nov 1, 2010 5:00:44 GMT -5
Having a guy wrestle hurt in any way is really not the way this story should go. Have a guy wrestle hurt, it looks fake. People know what kinda health things are in place now. Frankly, I'd have a guy get injured before a PPV and not wrestle, (let's say AJ again) and his stablemates berate him for not wrestling, planting dissension. There is no reason, no possible excuse to promote wrestling with injuries in today's world.
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