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Post by Clarence "Showstealer" Mason on Oct 26, 2010 8:06:12 GMT -5
If they were making fun of it, they'd throw one of these in after every segment that mentions concussions: And the stock answer for every TNA fan who's sick of these concussion angles would be...
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Post by Banecat on Oct 26, 2010 8:16:23 GMT -5
The way I see it - TNA is just giving trying to attract the casual wrestling fan. And casual wrestling fans love storylines about concussions. They are also itching to cheer a d-bag like Matt Morgan. Oh, lets not forget how much they have wanted to boo Jeff Hardy. So Hogan/Bisch are just attracting a larger audience. Spoilers: None of the above is true. Ummm, I've always loved Matt Morgan and always hated Jeff Hardy...
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Oct 26, 2010 8:19:41 GMT -5
Beyond that though, I'm confused as to why Morgan suddenly cares now. Hasn't Eric Young been running like an idiot because he got a serious concussion that knocked him loopy? See, the whole concussion thing does not bother me because it's supposed to make Eric look like a huge douche for putting an injured man in the main event (just like last week). My first reaction was to these spoilers was why no one cares that Eric Young is allowed to wrestling despite being clinically insane due to a head injury suffered on Xplosion.
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Post by spongeboobnopants on Oct 26, 2010 8:33:10 GMT -5
So everyone's up in arms about TNA doing this concussion angle, but when WWE did it with McIntyre dropping Hardy on his head every chance he got for weeks earlier this year no-one said anything? At least Anderson didn't end up actually wrestling. The angle actually seems interesting to me. you forgot Randy Orton punting guys in the head too. But hey.....that's perfectly ok.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2010 9:13:55 GMT -5
So everyone's up in arms about TNA doing this concussion angle, but when WWE did it with McIntyre dropping Hardy on his head every chance he got for weeks earlier this year no-one said anything? At least Anderson didn't end up actually wrestling. The angle actually seems interesting to me. you forgot Randy Orton punting guys in the head too. But hey.....that's perfectly ok. See my issue isn't that its about concussions - but that the guy who was happily trying to carbon foot print every other guy's head a couple of months ago suddenly cares about other people's well being. If Orton came out and said that he feels bad about everyone he RKO'd then it'd be just as stupid. And on top of that - the idea of Morgan cutting promos all night long.... I can already predict it will be stilted and inauthentic. Much like a John Morrison face promo.
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Post by jamofpearls on Oct 26, 2010 9:18:41 GMT -5
I'm gonna agree/disagree with some things here. I think its a good idea for a storyline about protecting wrestlers with concussions. That the simplicity of a heel = pro concussion vs face = against wrestling with them is good with me. I'll want to see how this plays out of course. I agree that maybe Morgan wasn't the right person to choose with him kicking people in the head, and if I remember correctly, trying to concuss Hernandez. They probably should have chosen someone else to stand up.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Oct 26, 2010 9:27:55 GMT -5
Bischoff has always been an evil bastard. HE FIRED RANDY ANDERSON IN WCW despite Randy's pleas with his kids there. Heels are evil people. They do bad things. Unless you want more shades of grey characters, this is what heels do. They injure faces. They cheat.They do heinous things.
Plus, I imagine we're all old enough to know this isn't real...
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Oct 26, 2010 9:39:11 GMT -5
Too. Many Jokes!
Can't. Hold. It in!
Ah, there, all better now.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Oct 26, 2010 9:39:40 GMT -5
"Let's be really concerned about Anderson's real concussion and play that up but let's ignore Eric Young's fake concussion and brain trauma because he's funny!"
That's my gripe with it. Fake concussions are fake and funny because it's wrestling but real concussions are really real and not funny.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2010 9:41:49 GMT -5
"Let's be really concerned about Anderson's real concussion and play that up but let's ignore Eric Young's fake concussion and brain trauma because he's funny!" That's my gripe with it. Fake concussions are fake and funny because it's wrestling but real concussions are really real and not funny. You see - Eric Young isn't in Immortal's storyline so it doesn't matter what happens. I miss variety in TNA's shows. The whole thing revolves around Immortal now and if you're not a fan of that, you're pretty much left with the Jersey Shore angle and the one bright spot of TNA - the Tag scene.
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Post by spongeboobnopants on Oct 26, 2010 9:54:37 GMT -5
"Let's be really concerned about Anderson's real concussion and play that up but let's ignore Eric Young's fake concussion and brain trauma because he's funny!" That's my gripe with it. Fake concussions are fake and funny because it's wrestling but real concussions are really real and not funny. You see - Eric Young isn't in Immortal's storyline so it doesn't matter what happens. I miss variety in TNA's shows. The whole thing revolves around Immortal now and if you're not a fan of that, you're pretty much left with the Jersey Shore angle and the one bright spot of TNA - the Tag scene. just like I don't like the Nexus angle and all that's left after that is a guy with a unibrow, a laptop, and 2 really old guys pretending to be dead and bury each other in piles of dirt. Whatever happened to just watching and losing yourself from the stress of life for a few hours? Way too much nitpicking these days.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2010 9:58:30 GMT -5
You see - Eric Young isn't in Immortal's storyline so it doesn't matter what happens. I miss variety in TNA's shows. The whole thing revolves around Immortal now and if you're not a fan of that, you're pretty much left with the Jersey Shore angle and the one bright spot of TNA - the Tag scene. just like I don't like the Nexus angle and all that's left after that is a guy wiu a unibrow and 2 really old guys pretending to be dead and bury each other in piles of dirt. Whatever happened to just watching and losing yourself from the stress of life for a few hours? Way too much nitpicking these days. I mean - we can talk about the lunacy of the Taker/Kane angle all day long....in the WWE section of the boards. Nitpicking stuff is how I lose myself from the stress of life. It is fun for people. Why can't anyone understand that?
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Post by cabbageboy on Oct 26, 2010 9:59:52 GMT -5
The only thing I can figure is that Morgan was momentarily insane at the point where he attacked Hernandez. After all he was doing his whole Eddie Brock "We" gimmick at that point, and now he seems more or less lucid. Maybe he was acting nuts due to having a concussion of his own?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 26, 2010 10:58:26 GMT -5
I understand some criticism and lord knows TNA deserves it a lot, but a couple things.
1. Yeah it's weird that Morgan would be the one to turn, but an easy way to explain it is when he hurt Hernandez, Big Mex was out for months to recover. Hernandez's boss was not making him compete when he was unable to.
2. Concussions are a big issue with how so many football players are getting hurt. To me, this is trying to really get the Immortals over as going too far. THey do something that even one of their own can't condone and feel uneasy with.
3. For all you acting like this disgusting, I hope you all felt the same way when Orton was punting people in the head every week a few years ago, and RVD/HBK both fought Orton with concussions. If not well you my friends are hypocrites.
Again, I just don't understand the disgust. New heel group gives one of companies top babyfaces a concussion, they want to eliminate him for good so they make him compete anyway since they run the company. One member thinks this is too much so he stands up for what he believes..
Done right, Immortals are HUGE heels, Anderson has all the sympathy in the world, and Matt Morgan becomes a top face. Only thing you can say is TNA probably won't capitalize.
Course I just see it as TNA playing to a huge issue in sports today, but being fake, in an effort to try and get people over.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Oct 26, 2010 11:19:52 GMT -5
Don't know how they're mocking them with this angle, but whatever. Exactly what I was going to say. I don't see any mocking of concussions from reading these spoilers. They actually seem to be putting over how dangerous it is to be in the ring with one. It wasn't just Matt Morgan who was showing concerns about it and telling Bischoff it was a bad idea, Morgan was just the main guy involved. I'm well aware of the irony of Matt Morgan showing concerns for people, but it seems like this turn is nothing more than "wow this guy's a bigger asshole than me if he's making someone wrestle with a head injury". Agreed. They're clearly putting in a heavy effort to make wrestling with a concussion seem like a bad idea, and to me that's as far from mocking as you can get. And frankly, Morgan being the one to do that makes it even better, 'cause he's a guy who doesn't really have a problem with causing a concussion, and yet even he isn't down with someone wrestling while suffering from one.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Oct 26, 2010 11:31:26 GMT -5
I understand some criticism and lord knows TNA deserves it a lot, but a couple things. 1. Yeah it's weird that Morgan would be the one to turn, but an easy way to explain it is when he hurt Hernandez, Big Mex was out for months to recover. Hernandez's boss was not making him compete when he was unable to. 2. Concussions are a big issue with how so many football players are getting hurt. To me, this is trying to really get the Immortals over as going too far. THey do something that even one of their own can't condone and feel uneasy with. 3. For all you acting like this disgusting, I hope you all felt the same way when Orton was punting people in the head every week a few years ago, and RVD/HBK both fought Orton with concussions. If not well you my friends are hypocrites. Again, I just don't understand the disgust. New heel group gives one of companies top babyfaces a concussion, they want to eliminate him for good so they make him compete anyway since they run the company. One member thinks this is too much so he stands up for what he believes.. Done right, Immortals are HUGE heels, Anderson has all the sympathy in the world, and Matt Morgan becomes a top face. Only thing you can say is TNA probably won't capitalize. Course I just see it as TNA playing to a huge issue in sports today, but being fake, in an effort to try and get people over. Concussions is just one of those things that I don't want to see with on a wrestling show. It might just be a bury my head in the sand thing but there are some story lines or things I don't want to see in a wrestling show. Concussions, cancer, a real gun, home invasions, someones life being fake on the line. It leaves being a show and fun to being uncomfortable. Also about number 3 hell the WWE did a concussion storyline recently with out saying concussion with Drew McIntyre knocking Matt Hardy loopy weeks on end. I didn't like it then
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2010 11:35:49 GMT -5
Exactly what I was going to say. I don't see any mocking of concussions from reading these spoilers. They actually seem to be putting over how dangerous it is to be in the ring with one. It wasn't just Matt Morgan who was showing concerns about it and telling Bischoff it was a bad idea, Morgan was just the main guy involved. I'm well aware of the irony of Matt Morgan showing concerns for people, but it seems like this turn is nothing more than "wow this guy's a bigger asshole than me if he's making someone wrestle with a head injury". And frankly, Morgan being the one to do that makes it even better, 'cause he's a guy who doesn't really have a problem with causing a concussion, and yet even he isn't down with someone wrestling while suffering from one. I'm not sure how that makes sense though. So causing blantantly causing someone a concussion with a boot to the head and into a ringpost, laughing about it, gloating about, saying he would gladly do it again and attempt to do it to another wrestler - okay. Asking someone to wrestle with a concussion - not okay? It just doesn't make sense.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 26, 2010 11:56:44 GMT -5
I understand some criticism and lord knows TNA deserves it a lot, but a couple things. 1. Yeah it's weird that Morgan would be the one to turn, but an easy way to explain it is when he hurt Hernandez, Big Mex was out for months to recover. Hernandez's boss was not making him compete when he was unable to. 2. Concussions are a big issue with how so many football players are getting hurt. To me, this is trying to really get the Immortals over as going too far. THey do something that even one of their own can't condone and feel uneasy with. 3. For all you acting like this disgusting, I hope you all felt the same way when Orton was punting people in the head every week a few years ago, and RVD/HBK both fought Orton with concussions. If not well you my friends are hypocrites. Again, I just don't understand the disgust. New heel group gives one of companies top babyfaces a concussion, they want to eliminate him for good so they make him compete anyway since they run the company. One member thinks this is too much so he stands up for what he believes.. Done right, Immortals are HUGE heels, Anderson has all the sympathy in the world, and Matt Morgan becomes a top face. Only thing you can say is TNA probably won't capitalize. Course I just see it as TNA playing to a huge issue in sports today, but being fake, in an effort to try and get people over. Concussions is just one of those things that I don't want to see with on a wrestling show. It might just be a bury my head in the sand thing but there are some story lines or things I don't want to see in a wrestling show. Concussions, cancer, a real gun, home invasions, someones life being fake on the line. It leaves being a show and fun to being uncomfortable. Also about number 3 hell the WWE did a concussion storyline recently with out saying concussion with Drew McIntyre knocking Matt Hardy loopy weeks on end. I didn't like it then I'm not saying you are a hypocrite, BUT a lot of people who complain about stuff TNA does are. Yeah TNA drops the ball badly on a regular basis, but if they try something they are criticized for doing something tasteless, yet NOBODY complained about Orton's concussion angle because it was getting him over.
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Post by Krimzon on Oct 26, 2010 14:00:34 GMT -5
Nobody complained about Orton's angle because a lot of people didn't know exactly how damaging concussions were back then. They weren't a hot-button issue back then. People know a lot more now.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 26, 2010 14:08:01 GMT -5
Since TNA is tackling topical yet controversial topics like concussions, I can't wait for them do wrestling related storylines of the following: -Abortion -Gay Marriage -Don't Ask, Don't Tell -Steroid Abuse -Incest -Racism -Religious Discrimination -Alcoholism
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