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Post by thesam07 on Sept 29, 2010 8:24:44 GMT -5
Reading that other WMX thread about whether Lex could have held the title made me think of something. Now leading up to WM, both Bret and Lex won the Royal Rumble and so President Jack Tunney decided that both men would face Yoko in singles matches at WM. And a coin toss was decided who would go first. The options where Lex would face Yoko first and Bret would face Owen. And the winner of Yoko/Lex would face Bret later on. But the other option was Bret /Yoko first, Lex would face Crush then Lex would face the winner of Bret/Yoko.
So here is my question, what if the coin landed on the opposite side and we saw Lex vs Crush instead of Bret vs Owen? Would Bret still have beaten Yoko for the title? Would Lex win the title instead? What if it came to Bret v Lex in the main event? And what would the fallout of said main event have been?
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Sept 29, 2010 9:42:26 GMT -5
Wasn't it a gimmick coin?
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 29, 2010 10:28:32 GMT -5
Yeah, it was not a real coin toss, but I am pretty sure the OP knows that.
We would have had Crush versus Lex Luger, which probably would have sucked. We would not have had the classic match where Owen Hart beats Bret, furthering their storyline. We wouldn't have had Crush versus Randy Savage, which was a pretty good match and it felt different and special for WWF at that time. Bret would have had to have his match with Yokozuna earlier and gone on to face Lex. Lex would have probably have had his best WWE match if he had been booked with Bret at the end of that PPV in a losing effort to Bret.
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Post by thesam07 on Sept 30, 2010 2:45:50 GMT -5
Yeah, it was not a real coin toss, but I am pretty sure the OP knows that. Well now I do...
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Post by Bake Or Die on Sept 30, 2010 7:35:05 GMT -5
Looking back at it after all these years why didn't they just have a triple threat match?
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Post by johnnyk9 on Sept 30, 2010 7:44:02 GMT -5
it you watch the segment, Tunney uses a 50 cents piece and asks Luger to call it in the air, correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Luger call it as soon as it hit the ground?
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Post by Paco on Sept 30, 2010 7:54:50 GMT -5
Looking back at it after all these years why didn't they just have a triple threat match? Didn't exist. WWF's first Triple Threat match was in 1997.
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Post by ani on Sept 30, 2010 10:04:31 GMT -5
I'll try my hand:
Bret vs. Yoko and defeats him for the championship. Lex vs. Crush is next. It's a surprisingly decent match. About 10-15 minute mark, Randy Savage comes down (remember, that feud still started before the Royal Rumble if my memory serves right.) He attack Crush while the ref's back is turned. Luger starts jawing with Savage about how he had the match wrapped up. He turns his back and...SAVAGE ATTACKS HIM! Crush attacks him as well and we find out it was a setup! Savage and Crush are alligned (but without Fuji as they'll break from him.) The ref DQ's Crush BUT another referee comes out and says Crush was attacked first by Savage. They reverse it and it's a double DQ. Luger goes apeshit and he and Savage brawl to the back.
It's the main event and Bret is waiting in the ring. There's no opponent so Finkel is about to declare him the winner...until Owen Hart comes out that is. He grabs and mic starts talking about how Bret keeps ducking him. He reveals that he arranged through an unknown figure to challenge Bret for the title. This person hates Bret as much as he does. The match starts and it's a classic. Bret eventually gets Owen in the sharpshooter until the lights go out. People expect the Undertaker but when the lights go on, Bret is knocked out and Owen goes for the pin as the masked person counts 1-2-3 and we have a new champ. Vince is stunned and say we will not count that...
Until the person reveals himself to be Danny Davis. Vince is in shock and the show ends. ;D
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Post by Clarence "Showstealer" Mason on Sept 30, 2010 10:22:16 GMT -5
I'll try my hand: Bret vs. Yoko and defeats him for the championship. Lex vs. Crush is next. It's a surprisingly decent match. About 10-15 minute mark, Randy Savage comes down (remember, that feud still started before the Royal Rumble if my memory serves right.) He attack Crush while the ref's back is turned. Luger starts jawing with Savage about how he had the match wrapped up. He turns his back and...SAVAGE ATTACKS HIM! Crush attacks him as well and we find out it was a setup! Savage and Crush are alligned (but without Fuji as they'll break from him.) The ref DQ's Crush BUT another referee comes out and says Crush was attacked first by Savage. They reverse it and it's a double DQ. Luger goes apes*** and he and Savage brawl to the back. It's the main event and Bret is waiting in the ring. There's no opponent so Finkel is about to declare him the winner...until Owen Hart comes out that is. He grabs and mic starts talking about how Bret keeps ducking him. He reveals that he arranged through an unknown figure to challenge Bret for the title. This person hates Bret as much as he does. The match starts and it's a classic. Bret eventually gets Owen in the sharpshooter until the lights go out. People expect the Undertaker but when the lights go on, Bret is knocked out and Owen goes for the pin as the masked person counts 1-2-3 and we have a new champ. Vince is stunned and say we will not count that... Until the person reveals himself to be Danny Davis. Vince is in shock and the show ends. ;D I like the way you think. You'll go far in this company
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Post by nisidhe on Sept 30, 2010 10:45:52 GMT -5
I'll try my hand: Bret vs. Yoko and defeats him for the championship. Lex vs. Crush is next. It's a surprisingly decent match. About 10-15 minute mark, Randy Savage comes down (remember, that feud still started before the Royal Rumble if my memory serves right.) He attack Crush while the ref's back is turned. Luger starts jawing with Savage about how he had the match wrapped up. He turns his back and...SAVAGE ATTACKS HIM! Crush attacks him as well and we find out it was a setup! Savage and Crush are alligned (but without Fuji as they'll break from him.) The ref DQ's Crush BUT another referee comes out and says Crush was attacked first by Savage. They reverse it and it's a double DQ. Luger goes apes*** and he and Savage brawl to the back. It's the main event and Bret is waiting in the ring. There's no opponent so Finkel is about to declare him the winner...until Owen Hart comes out that is. He grabs and mic starts talking about how Bret keeps ducking him. He reveals that he arranged through an unknown figure to challenge Bret for the title. This person hates Bret as much as he does. The match starts and it's a classic. Bret eventually gets Owen in the sharpshooter until the lights go out. People expect the Undertaker but when the lights go on, Bret is knocked out and Owen goes for the pin as the masked person counts 1-2-3 and we have a new champ. Vince is stunned and say we will not count that... Until the person reveals himself to be Danny Davis. Vince is in shock and the show ends. ;D Russo? is that you?
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Post by ani on Sept 30, 2010 10:56:42 GMT -5
I'll try my hand: Bret vs. Yoko and defeats him for the championship. Lex vs. Crush is next. It's a surprisingly decent match. About 10-15 minute mark, Randy Savage comes down (remember, that feud still started before the Royal Rumble if my memory serves right.) He attack Crush while the ref's back is turned. Luger starts jawing with Savage about how he had the match wrapped up. He turns his back and...SAVAGE ATTACKS HIM! Crush attacks him as well and we find out it was a setup! Savage and Crush are alligned (but without Fuji as they'll break from him.) The ref DQ's Crush BUT another referee comes out and says Crush was attacked first by Savage. They reverse it and it's a double DQ. Luger goes apes*** and he and Savage brawl to the back. It's the main event and Bret is waiting in the ring. There's no opponent so Finkel is about to declare him the winner...until Owen Hart comes out that is. He grabs and mic starts talking about how Bret keeps ducking him. He reveals that he arranged through an unknown figure to challenge Bret for the title. This person hates Bret as much as he does. The match starts and it's a classic. Bret eventually gets Owen in the sharpshooter until the lights go out. People expect the Undertaker but when the lights go on, Bret is knocked out and Owen goes for the pin as the masked person counts 1-2-3 and we have a new champ. Vince is stunned and say we will not count that... Until the person reveals himself to be Danny Davis. Vince is in shock and the show ends. ;D Russo? is that you? Yeah but WWE never had a swerve like that before. Plus can you imagine the heat on Owen winning? Granted it may be a bit early but he would only hold the title for a few months. Would love to Creative write for them but they look for HIGHLY qualified people believe it or not: * BA/BS in Film, TV, Drama, Media Studies, Communications or equivalent * Minimum of three to five years writing and production experience in network television * Professional TV staff experience in drama and comedy a plus * Experience in all aspects of live TV production a plus * Highly creative (a prolific idea generator) * Plugged into pop culture and trends * Able to work closely and effectively with talent, writers, and producers throughout the creative process * Strong understanding of WWE's audience (demographic and psychographic) a plus * Must live in Stamford, CT area or be willing to relocate there * Knowledge of WWE shows, talent, and storylines * Excellent communication skills and the ability to work in a team environment * Flexible travel schedule (extensive travel required)
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Sept 30, 2010 11:34:14 GMT -5
Looking back at it after all these years why didn't they just have a triple threat match? Aside from the fact that they had never done one before, a Triple Threat would not have had the same impact as this setup. I liked the way they booked this format, and I wish WWE would use it again some day instead of Triple Threats all the time.
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Post by Bake Or Die on Sept 30, 2010 15:20:10 GMT -5
I'll try my hand: Bret vs. Yoko and defeats him for the championship. Lex vs. Crush is next. It's a surprisingly decent match. About 10-15 minute mark, Randy Savage comes down (remember, that feud still started before the Royal Rumble if my memory serves right.) He attack Crush while the ref's back is turned. Luger starts jawing with Savage about how he had the match wrapped up. He turns his back and...SAVAGE ATTACKS HIM! Crush attacks him as well and we find out it was a setup! Savage and Crush are alligned (but without Fuji as they'll break from him.) The ref DQ's Crush BUT another referee comes out and says Crush was attacked first by Savage. They reverse it and it's a double DQ. Luger goes apes*** and he and Savage brawl to the back. It's the main event and Bret is waiting in the ring. There's no opponent so Finkel is about to declare him the winner...until Owen Hart comes out that is. He grabs and mic starts talking about how Bret keeps ducking him. He reveals that he arranged through an unknown figure to challenge Bret for the title. This person hates Bret as much as he does. The match starts and it's a classic. Bret eventually gets Owen in the sharpshooter until the lights go out. People expect the Undertaker but when the lights go on, Bret is knocked out and Owen goes for the pin as the masked person counts 1-2-3 and we have a new champ. Vince is stunned and say we will not count that... Until the person reveals himself to be Danny Davis. Vince is in shock and the show ends. ;D That's a complete waste of Lex.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Sept 30, 2010 15:30:31 GMT -5
Looking back at it after all these years why didn't they just have a triple threat match? Aside from the fact that they had never done one before, a Triple Threat would not have had the same impact as this setup. I liked the way they booked this format, and I wish WWE would use it again some day instead of Triple Threats all the time. The triple threat is way overused in current terms. It should be, and remain, a once in a blue moon special stipulation. I agree the "mini-tourney" is a better idea. I think it would have been cool for Owen to be eligible to advance in the "tourney", rather than being just a placeholder.
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Post by ani on Sept 30, 2010 20:07:09 GMT -5
I'll try my hand: Bret vs. Yoko and defeats him for the championship. Lex vs. Crush is next. It's a surprisingly decent match. About 10-15 minute mark, Randy Savage comes down (remember, that feud still started before the Royal Rumble if my memory serves right.) He attack Crush while the ref's back is turned. Luger starts jawing with Savage about how he had the match wrapped up. He turns his back and...SAVAGE ATTACKS HIM! Crush attacks him as well and we find out it was a setup! Savage and Crush are alligned (but without Fuji as they'll break from him.) The ref DQ's Crush BUT another referee comes out and says Crush was attacked first by Savage. They reverse it and it's a double DQ. Luger goes apes*** and he and Savage brawl to the back. It's the main event and Bret is waiting in the ring. There's no opponent so Finkel is about to declare him the winner...until Owen Hart comes out that is. He grabs and mic starts talking about how Bret keeps ducking him. He reveals that he arranged through an unknown figure to challenge Bret for the title. This person hates Bret as much as he does. The match starts and it's a classic. Bret eventually gets Owen in the sharpshooter until the lights go out. People expect the Undertaker but when the lights go on, Bret is knocked out and Owen goes for the pin as the masked person counts 1-2-3 and we have a new champ. Vince is stunned and say we will not count that... Until the person reveals himself to be Danny Davis. Vince is in shock and the show ends. ;D That's a complete waste of Lex. Facing Randy or going for the IC title only to tag team meaningless matches. I take Randy ;D
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Post by hajimenoippo on Sept 30, 2010 21:25:32 GMT -5
I would have had a Triple threat match, with Lex and Bret doing most of the match.
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 30, 2010 22:38:00 GMT -5
Aside from the fact that they had never done one before, a Triple Threat would not have had the same impact as this setup. I liked the way they booked this format, and I wish WWE would use it again some day instead of Triple Threats all the time. The triple threat is way overused in current terms. It should be, and remain, a once in a blue moon special stipulation. I agree the "mini-tourney" is a better idea. I think it would have been cool for Owen to be eligible to advance in the "tourney", rather than being just a placeholder. While there would've been something cool about it, it was almost better and more poetic having Owen actually BEAT Bret fair and square, only to watch Bret win the ultimate prize later. It did wonders for the storytelling of the feud.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 1, 2010 2:57:58 GMT -5
Looking back at it after all these years why didn't they just have a triple threat match? Aside from the fact that they had never done one before, a Triple Threat would not have had the same impact as this setup. I liked the way they booked this format, and I wish WWE would use it again some day instead of Triple Threats all the time. Yeah, Triple Thread wasn't the way to go, it was UNHEARD of in that time period, if the concept even existed and I bet it never once crossed their minds something like this could be done. Seems like a simple solution now, but back then, no way.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Oct 1, 2010 5:04:32 GMT -5
The triple threat is way overused in current terms. It should be, and remain, a once in a blue moon special stipulation. I agree the "mini-tourney" is a better idea. I think it would have been cool for Owen to be eligible to advance in the "tourney", rather than being just a placeholder. While there would've been something cool about it, it was almost better and more poetic having Owen actually BEAT Bret fair and square, only to watch Bret win the ultimate prize later. It did wonders for the storytelling of the feud. Oh, I agree on the storytelling aspect. As a kid it just perplexed me that a contender for the belt could lose a match, but still have a title shot later on in the same evening. In theory, Bret could have walked to the ring and forfeited/thrown the match quickly to Owen to save himself for later.
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Post by Mr T L Wolf on Oct 1, 2010 17:10:24 GMT -5
We needed to wait for Chavo to tap from a handshake for that to ever happen.
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