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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jan 11, 2011 19:49:43 GMT -5
Well the majority of them are in my opinion, really really ugly. This is because I'm a straight man and I generally like my women to have never at any point in their life had a penis. If that makes me a...uhh...cisgender supremacist then yes, yes I am. That said, I've seen a few that actually fooled me and looked like a chick. Most of them were Asian though. But generally they just look like ugly chicks, and that's probably because they have freaking man faces. Wow dude... I say you haven't met enough trans people. A lot of fully transitioned people pass completely as the correct gender and are extremely attractive. But to say "they have freaking man faces" is incredibly insensitive and rude. That's why I say he hasn't been looking at the right websites. I've seen plenty through this happy little tool called the internet and many of them are quite pretty. But I also know that the ones I see on those websites are made to look as objects of affection and not all transgendered should be seen as such. People are people, no matter what there sex is. And a pretty person is a pretty person to be admired. By me especially.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Jan 11, 2011 20:42:31 GMT -5
Well the majority of them are in my opinion, really really ugly. This is because I'm a straight man and I generally like my women to have never at any point in their life had a penis. If that makes me a...uhh...cisgender supremacist then yes, yes I am. That said, I've seen a few that actually fooled me and looked like a chick. Most of them were Asian though. But generally they just look like ugly chicks, and that's probably because they have freaking man faces. Wow dude... I say you haven't met enough trans people. A lot of fully transitioned people pass completely as the correct gender and are extremely attractive. But to say "they have freaking man faces" is incredibly insensitive and rude. I have definitely not met any trans-gender people, at least not knowingly. I would be surprised to find out that any live in Dublin, Georgia. Maybe it's insensitive. I have gay friends, lesbian friends, friends that like golden showers, all kinds of stuff that I don't understand. Ok whatever. But forgive me if I have no problem making fun of a person that paid to have a surgery in order to become a different gender. I mean, I don't hate them or feel disgusted by them...I just think it's incredibly stupid. Sorry.
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Post by "The Rated XXX Superstar" Jed on Jan 11, 2011 20:55:28 GMT -5
Wow dude... I say you haven't met enough trans people. A lot of fully transitioned people pass completely as the correct gender and are extremely attractive. But to say "they have freaking man faces" is incredibly insensitive and rude. I have definitely not met any trans-gender people, at least not knowingly. I would be surprised to find out that any live in Dublin, Georgia. Maybe it's insensitive. I have gay friends, lesbian friends, friends that like golden showers, all kinds of stuff that I don't understand. Ok whatever. But forgive me if I have no problem making fun of a person that paid to have a surgery in order to become a different gender. I mean, I don't hate them or feel disgusted by them...I just think it's incredibly stupid. Sorry. You say that, but you don't take into consideration what it would be like to be born as one gender, but to always know in your heart that you are the other gender. There's nothing "stupid" about doing what makes you happy and fulfills your life.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jan 11, 2011 20:59:35 GMT -5
Wow dude... I say you haven't met enough trans people. A lot of fully transitioned people pass completely as the correct gender and are extremely attractive. But to say "they have freaking man faces" is incredibly insensitive and rude. Maybe it's insensitive. I have gay friends, lesbian friends, friends that like golden showers, all kinds of stuff that I don't understand. Ok whatever. But forgive me if I have no problem making fun of a person that paid to have a surgery in order to become a different gender. I mean, I don't hate them or feel disgusted by them...I just think it's incredibly sexy. Sorry. Went ahead and fixed that last part for ya.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Jan 11, 2011 21:01:47 GMT -5
Wow dude... I say you haven't met enough trans people. A lot of fully transitioned people pass completely as the correct gender and are extremely attractive. But to say "they have freaking man faces" is incredibly insensitive and rude. I have definitely not met any trans-gender people, at least not knowingly. I would be surprised to find out that any live in Dublin, Georgia. Maybe it's insensitive. I have gay friends, lesbian friends, friends that like golden showers, all kinds of stuff that I don't understand. Ok whatever. But forgive me if I have no problem making fun of a person that paid to have a surgery in order to become a different gender. I mean, I don't hate them or feel disgusted by them...I just think it's incredibly stupid. Sorry. Is it stupid for anyone to do what makes them feel like them? Is it stupid for the skateboarder to buy a skateboard? Is it stupid for the fisherman to buy a boat? No. These people are just lucky enough that what makes them, them isn't something as complicated as being born as a gender that you don't feel right as. The brain is a complicated thing, and it's not always as simple as "getting over it" as some people would say.
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Post by kidglov3s on Jan 11, 2011 21:10:06 GMT -5
Wow dude... I say you haven't met enough trans people. A lot of fully transitioned people pass completely as the correct gender and are extremely attractive. But to say "they have freaking man faces" is incredibly insensitive and rude. I have definitely not met any trans-gender people, at least not knowingly. I would be surprised to find out that any live in Dublin, Georgia. Maybe it's insensitive. I have gay friends, lesbian friends, friends that like golden showers, all kinds of stuff that I don't understand. Ok whatever. But forgive me if I have no problem making fun of a person that paid to have a surgery in order to become a different gender. I mean, I don't hate them or feel disgusted by them...I just think it's incredibly stupid. Sorry. So, basically, "My cisgender/cissexual status means I'm better than trans people"? Or are you saying that you identify as trans, that you fully perceive yourself to be sexed different from what you were assigned at birth, but that your inner superiority leads you to not pursue a life that would reflect how you understand yourself?
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Post by rapidfire187 on Jan 11, 2011 21:14:24 GMT -5
*sighs*
It's a losing battle on both ends here. Look guys, I'm not trying to convince anyone to change their minds about anything, so stop trying to do it to me please? This isn't a dangerous or intolerant situation here, I have no problem with transgender people I really don't. I simply think that getting a surgery to become another sex is ridiculous. It's not like they went into the process expecting everybody to be open and understanding about it and I seriously doubt that any transgender person out there gives 2 craps about what I think.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Jan 11, 2011 21:18:18 GMT -5
I have definitely not met any trans-gender people, at least not knowingly. I would be surprised to find out that any live in Dublin, Georgia. Maybe it's insensitive. I have gay friends, lesbian friends, friends that like golden showers, all kinds of stuff that I don't understand. Ok whatever. But forgive me if I have no problem making fun of a person that paid to have a surgery in order to become a different gender. I mean, I don't hate them or feel disgusted by them...I just think it's incredibly stupid. Sorry. So, basically, "My cisgender/cissexual status means I'm better than trans people"? Or are you saying that you identify as trans, that you fully perceive yourself to be sexed different from what you were assigned at birth, but that your inner superiority leads you to not pursue a life that would reflect how you understand yourself? This has nothing to do with superiority, good lord. You're over analyzing it. I don't spend a ton of time sitting around thinking of transgenders. If you want to say that I don't get it or something, fine...but to make it sound like I'm intolerant or anything is just incorrect.
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Post by kidglov3s on Jan 11, 2011 21:21:18 GMT -5
So, basically, "My cisgender/cissexual status means I'm better than trans people"? Or are you saying that you identify as trans, that you fully perceive yourself to be sexed different from what you were assigned at birth, but that your inner superiority leads you to not pursue a life that would reflect how you understand yourself? This has nothing to do with superiority, good lord. You're over analyzing it. I don't spend a ton of time sitting around thinking of transgenders. If you want to say that I don't get it or something, fine...but to make it sound like I'm intolerant or anything is just incorrect. Maybe if you did put more thought toward "transgenders", or gasp actually put some time into researching so you might have a clue what you're spouting off about, you might not consider them to be as a class innately "really ugly", "manly" and "stupid". Your words.
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Post by "The Rated XXX Superstar" Jed on Jan 11, 2011 21:36:51 GMT -5
Can we please not fight? Look, to trans people, gender surgery is often the only way to finally feel natural and normal. To feel good about themselves. Period. End of story.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jan 11, 2011 21:42:10 GMT -5
Yes, I agree. No fighting. Instead let's post pics of sexy transgendered people.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Jan 11, 2011 21:43:23 GMT -5
This has nothing to do with superiority, good lord. You're over analyzing it. I don't spend a ton of time sitting around thinking of transgenders. If you want to say that I don't get it or something, fine...but to make it sound like I'm intolerant or anything is just incorrect. Maybe if you did put more thought toward "transgenders", or gasp actually put some time into researching so you might have a clue what you're spouting off about, you might not consider them to be as a class innately "really ugly", "manly" and "stupid". Your words. I never said that they're all ugly manly and stupid. A.) I said that I find most of them to be ugly. That won't change no matter how much thought I put into it. I also said that I've seen ones that actually passed for women. For instance, a girl that I'm talking to was showing me pictures asking me "would you do her" one night, and slipped in a picture of Alicia Lieu. I said I'd do her. B.) I said they have man faces. That's not a lie if the transgender person used to be a man. I was saying that since I am only attracted to females, a female with a face that resembles a man would be a turn off. A man that has a surgery to become a woman would still have the same face that they had before, unless they got a ton of work done to it. By your logic it is insensitive to equate "man face" to "ugly". C.) I said I thought that paying for the surgery was stupid. Not that the people themselves are stupid. Everybody does stupid things, even geniuses. I'm not going to feel guilty for making fun of anybody. This is the same board where people make fun of Matt Hardy for being "fat" yet when I make a joke about ugly transvestites people want to get all offended. Screw you if you can't take a joke. Bottom line.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Jan 11, 2011 21:54:23 GMT -5
Sometimes our words effect others even when we don't intend for them to. I think it's a good lesson on being careful with your words. People have called me out for accidentally saying offensive things, and I apologize and remember for next time. There are transgender members of this forum, myself included, who may be offended by your word choice and attitude. Please remember that we are human beings just as much as you are, and that it hurts a lot when people make negative comments like that when they don't really understand the situation. For instance, because of hormone replacement, a transgender woman will not necessarily actually have a "man face". While her bone structure will not change, the fat and muscle distribution will, and her face will become more female. I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to point out that even if you didn't intend it, your comments were hurtful. There's nothing wrong with that, it happens to the best of us
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Jan 11, 2011 22:03:41 GMT -5
Honestly I never believed that part of ''I was born with the wrong sex'' but at the same time, I had no problems with it, if surgery or dressing as a guy of the other sex makes them happy, good for them
At least I still had the problem that some transgenders bases their decisions at times according of what society thought us what is a girl or a boy, and not because ''they born with the wrong sex'' but if it makes you comfortable to change your sex, do it, you will be very stupid if you don't do what makes you happy because some other guys judge you
But again, I'm not a transgender, so it will be incredible stupid to give that opinion because I had never been in that situation
Even though transgenders should also learn to not be that sensitive, the guy above me made a joke, where she said that when he saw an ugly girl, she thought that he looked really manly or that maybe was a transvestite, not big deal, was a legit observation that lot's of times is true, at least I had saw lots of transvestites in the internet that look like woman, and at the same time transvestites in real life that had NEVER looked like a woman (photoshop helps a lot with the internet at times)
Even though I never said to a woman that she looks like a transvestite, if you're near enough you can tell the differences, even though there are some little details
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 11, 2011 22:57:41 GMT -5
Well, this got serious in a hurry. How about we lighten the mood?
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Jan 12, 2011 0:36:40 GMT -5
For a moment I thought I had just walked into a heated discussion during a gender studies 101 lecture.
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