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Post by ohiofan1 on Jan 1, 2011 0:48:31 GMT -5
Besides the big cities in the United States, I don't see much film critics writing for newspapers, magazines, etc. I guess people don't want to listen to them because they think they hate on everything, which is really not true.
I consider myself a film buff, but sometimes I'm not happy. People always give me weird comments and looks when I get into a movie conversation just because I know a little bit more than them. My Dad says I have a gift when it's really no big deal. People sometimes are easily impressed. This is why I don't want many movies with him or with much of my family
I admitted that I shy away from friends when asked to go the movies with them, but one wouldn't stop bothering me. So we went and we saw True Grit and The Fighter. I was explaining to him how the Best Picture race works this year. If any of you are movie buffs, you basically know the 10 nominees for BP this year, which includes the two films from above.
Once again, my friend is easily impressed and then went as far as argued when I mention that Toy Story 3 would get nominated for BP this year. This is why I don't go to see movies with my friends because I'm bascially going with your typical teenager. He doesn't like the fact that a "Baby's Movie" is getting nominated this year.
I hate watching movies with people who make biased, stupid comments like that. Since finding a job in Journalism is so hard now especially in film criticism, I honestly don't know what I'm going to do once in get into College next fall.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 1, 2011 1:25:37 GMT -5
I know Rex Reed got to review a lot of films by sleeping with the head of the Film Festival.
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Post by Cela on Jan 1, 2011 1:57:56 GMT -5
I can't wait for the age of "Haters" to end. Its annoying when disliking something gets you mocked.
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Post by Ian Austin on Jan 1, 2011 5:25:01 GMT -5
You're kidding, right?
I know six sites online that'd accept you as a film critic. Would you get paid? No. But you'd get exposure out there. And if you did a good enough job, and provided regularity, you'd create awareness of yourself as a brand. Not to mention hone your skills in terms of actually writing about reviews.
No-one cares until you get published. Even if it's only online, it'll push you further towards getting paid. And if I can do it and earn some (extremely) minor fame, anyone can.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 1, 2011 8:50:37 GMT -5
I hate watching movies with people who make biased, stupid comments like that. Since finding a job in Journalism is so hard now especially in film criticism, I honestly don't know what I'm going to do once in get into College next fall. Well, journalism in its traditional form is gut-shot and dying but once you get to college, you should have no problem finding people that share a true love of cinema. Hell, any college worth its salt will have at least a handful of Film Studies courses. Two of my close friends and I were like that in high school. We were the only ones who'd ever want to go downtown to the Ritz to see the "art movies". We then went to 3 entirely different colleges (NYU, Penn State and Haverford College) and all of us found new people to have quality discussions about film with. |
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 1, 2011 9:28:41 GMT -5
Because so many people wanted "watching movies" to be a career path, so the very few groups who would actually pay for people to do that have no problem finding any. And people don't leave those jobs because, well, pretty much no one who has those jobs could find a better job doing that elsewhere. Colleges still turn out people in "film studies" courses who think they have a shot at becoming film critics out in the real world, and that's such a farce now because most media outlets don't have dedicated film critics anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2011 12:49:44 GMT -5
Every movie review is biased and stupid. I've never read one that I thought was helpful to me.
I'd suggest finding another career because people are realizing that critics can only give them ONE point of view about a film so its basically useless to anyone who is not that critic.
Same with music reviewers.
I'd rather just listen to the song myself rather than read someone else telling me what they thought about the song.
I can watch a trailer and tell if I want to watch the movie. Critics basically give their opinion of what's "good," but because its completely subjective it doesn't provide any real insight for me.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 1, 2011 17:33:05 GMT -5
Every movie review is biased and stupid. I've never read one that I thought was helpful to me. I'd suggest finding another career because people are realizing that critics can only give them ONE point of view about a film so its basically useless to anyone who is not that critic. Same with music reviewers. I'd rather just listen to the song myself rather than read someone else telling me what they thought about the song. I can watch a trailer and tell if I want to watch the movie. Critics basically give their opinion of what's "good," but because its completely subjective it doesn't provide any real insight for me. Ideally, a person who wrote about film wouldn't give just their opinion. They'd write about the style, the techniques, the theme, etc., like a book report. They wouldn't give thumbs up and thumbs down, but analyze what the film was attempting to do and how it tried to do that. But that's just really, really rare for reviewers. |
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Jan 1, 2011 17:44:47 GMT -5
You're kidding, right? I know six sites online that'd accept you as a film critic. Would you get paid? No. But you'd get exposure out there. And if you did a good enough job, and provided regularity, you'd create awareness of yourself as a brand. Not to mention hone your skills in terms of actually writing about reviews. No-one cares until you get published. Even if it's only online, it'll push you further towards getting paid. And if I can do it and earn some (extremely) minor fame, anyone can. I'll second this. I may not be getting paid, but working for Studycove helped get me exposure and experience. This led to me opening up my own site, where, though it's not huge, a have a following. I may not be getting paid yet (though that's more my fault than anything), but having a small following is very rewarding. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jan 1, 2011 21:32:47 GMT -5
Every movie review is biased and stupid. I've never read one that I thought was helpful to me. I'd suggest finding another career because people are realizing that critics can only give them ONE point of view about a film so its basically useless to anyone who is not that critic. Same with music reviewers. I'd rather just listen to the song myself rather than read someone else telling me what they thought about the song. I can watch a trailer and tell if I want to watch the movie. Critics basically give their opinion of what's "good," but because its completely subjective it doesn't provide any real insight for me. You just have to find a critic with similar tastes. I tend to read several reviews. More often than not I read more reviews AFTER I've seen the movie just to get other perspectives on it. |
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Post by DSR on Jan 1, 2011 22:28:13 GMT -5
Every movie review is biased and stupid. I've never read one that I thought was helpful to me. I'd suggest finding another career because people are realizing that critics can only give them ONE point of view about a film so its basically useless to anyone who is not that critic. Same with music reviewers. I'd rather just listen to the song myself rather than read someone else telling me what they thought about the song. I can watch a trailer and tell if I want to watch the movie. Critics basically give their opinion of what's "good," but because its completely subjective it doesn't provide any real insight for me. You just have to find a critic with similar tastes. I tend to read several reviews. More often than not I read more reviews AFTER I've seen the movie just to get other perspectives on it. Or even if you disagree with a particular reviewer, if you keep track, you can gauge how well you'll probably like a movie by how badly they hated it. |
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Post by salsashark on Jan 2, 2011 0:51:44 GMT -5
Every movie review is biased and stupid. I've never read one that I thought was helpful to me. I'd suggest finding another career because people are realizing that critics can only give them ONE point of view about a film so its basically useless to anyone who is not that critic. Same with music reviewers. I'd rather just listen to the song myself rather than read someone else telling me what they thought about the song. I can watch a trailer and tell if I want to watch the movie. Critics basically give their opinion of what's "good," but because its completely subjective it doesn't provide any real insight for me. It sounds like you're missing the point of criticism. Ignoring the idea of grades and scores (which is honestly my least favorite aspect of reviews anyhow), a good book/film/CD/whatever review can relate the idea of listening to a work or at least explore its relationship to other things (ie, other movies, bands, etc.) while saying something interesting/insightful. Good criticism is not about 100% agreeing with the person saying whatever, but contrasting your opinion with theirs and hopefully getting something more out of a product. It's honestly not all that different from this wrestling board. It's concentrated on one person yes, but a good review in some form can start a kind of discussion between the writer and reader(s). People place way too much value in the idea of grades when it comes to this stuff. Also, consider how many gazillion bands and movies and books or whatever are out there, especially with the Internet making way too much stuff accessible. If you're seriously into a form of media and want to find out more, chances are it will take you a long-ass time to sift through all of that to find stuff you like, so reviews can indicate whether that product will be up your alley or worth your interest (sort of doing what a movie trailer does, but ideally, in more honest fashion). Last thing: do you ever take advice from friends on movies or albums or whatever and go on their recommendations? Then you're pretty much following a review, just one that isn't published. (BTW, full disclosure if it wasn't already totally obvious: I write record reviews, even if I am personally not 100% crazy about doing the process myself.) |
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