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Post by iRabbit on Jan 27, 2011 22:14:47 GMT -5
www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12296685Being an owner of the first series of released PSP's, this advancement is AMAZING. I'm kinda excited. Might get me some reviews to get really convinced. Now its supposedly going to be released during the Holidays of this year. Thoughts? Expectations? Excited?
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 27, 2011 22:23:16 GMT -5
I honestly no longer care for the 3DS. I'm officially passing on the 3DS until the first revision, and instead will buy the NGP when it drops. I NEED portable Uncharted.
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Post by shiranui on Jan 27, 2011 22:23:18 GMT -5
At the moment, I'm actually more interested in seeing how the PlayStation Suite for Android phones will work in practice. My phone has quite beefy hardware (it's a Samsung Galaxy S) so the games will probably run well enough, but I don't expect the controls to be very good on a touchscreen.
As for the NGP, it does seem a bit more interesting than the 3DS so far. That's really all I can say at this point.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jan 27, 2011 22:37:31 GMT -5
Still more interested in the 3DS, but I will get both sooner or later.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 28, 2011 0:36:32 GMT -5
It's powerful, no doubt, but I still don't get why they didn't decrease the size of the thing. The first gen one was awkward to hold, I don't see this getting much easier.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 28, 2011 0:43:41 GMT -5
It's powerful, no doubt, but I still don't get why they didn't decrease the size of the thing. The first gen one was awkward to hold, I don't see this getting much easier. My guess? The battery. With it being this powerful, I think they had to put in a big battery so it could give the thing more than a 3 hour battery life.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 28, 2011 16:57:37 GMT -5
This looks like an amazing system, and I'd love to buy one but the price of this at launch is gonna be insane I think. I don't see this coming out any cheaper then $350, which is insane for a handheld. Hell, the $250 for the 3DS is high for a handheld.
But, hats off because this is one impressive looking unit. I just think it's gonna be way too expensive.
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Post by wcw on Jan 28, 2011 18:40:42 GMT -5
PSP 2.0 is what the NGP will be. It will get a lot of hype early on but its going to lack a consistently good software lineup and will have a too high a price tag among other flaws (Battery life, hardware issues).
Honestly I think that the portable gaming market is one that doesn't appeal too much to adults anymore. The 3DS has a gimmick and is going to be a lot more affordable and it has Nintendo's first party lineup to back it up.
Also its going to come down to what is easier/cheaper to develop games for. NGP seems like it might be harder to develop for then the 3DS which while 3d is less graphically intensive. Also the fact that you can still play DS games on the 3DS makes it have a pretty big back library you can play (Also a pretty big download library).
Now I will be waiting on the 3DS to comeout with a 3DS lite in a few years. I hope they comeout with a 3DS around 170 with a longer battery life in 2 years.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 28, 2011 18:44:27 GMT -5
PSP 2.0 is what the NGP will be. It will get a lot of hype early on but its going to lack a consistently good software lineup and will have a too high a price tag among other flaws (Battery life, hardware issues). Honestly I think that the portable gaming market is one that doesn't appeal too much to adults anymore. The 3DS has a gimmick and is going to be a lot more affordable and it has Nintendo's first party lineup to back it up. Also its going to come down to what is easier/cheaper to develop games for. NGP seems like it might be harder to develop for then the 3DS which while 3d is less graphically intensive. Also the fact that you can still play DS games on the 3DS makes it have a pretty big back library you can play (Also a pretty big download library). Seeing how easy it is to port PS3 games directly to the NGP with little to nothing lost in the process, I think it is safe to say that the NGP is going to have a very good library of games. It probably won't even cost developers/publishers much, if anything, to port it from the PS3 to the NGP. That, and it has portable Uncharted. All arguments that its lineup will suck are automatically invalid on that basis alone.
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Post by shiranui on Jan 28, 2011 18:47:10 GMT -5
Most importantly of all, Atlus is one of the third party publishers supporting the NGP.
(well yes, they support the 3DS too, but I don't think that system has the power to handle something like a Persona game properly)
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Post by wcw on Jan 28, 2011 18:48:17 GMT -5
PSP 2.0 is what the NGP will be. It will get a lot of hype early on but its going to lack a consistently good software lineup and will have a too high a price tag among other flaws (Battery life, hardware issues). Honestly I think that the portable gaming market is one that doesn't appeal too much to adults anymore. The 3DS has a gimmick and is going to be a lot more affordable and it has Nintendo's first party lineup to back it up. Also its going to come down to what is easier/cheaper to develop games for. NGP seems like it might be harder to develop for then the 3DS which while 3d is less graphically intensive. Also the fact that you can still play DS games on the 3DS makes it have a pretty big back library you can play (Also a pretty big download library). Seeing how easy it is to port PS3 games directly to the NGP with little to nothing lost in the process, I think it is safe to say that the NGP is going to have a very good library of games. It probably won't even cost developers/publishers much, if anything, to port it from the PS3 to the NGP. That, and it has portable Uncharted. All arguments that its lineup will suck are automatically invalid on that basis alone. People were saying that you could just port PS2 games to the PSP and that will bump up its library. But people tend to want those full fledged experiences to be on a console rather then a portable. Portable gaming lends its self to drop in drop out gameplay more often. You could port a lot of stuff from PS3 to the NGP but will most people want those games on their PS3 on a bigger screen in an atmosphere they can fully enjoy. Not saying the lineup will suck (Sony has a good first party lineup) but that you can get those experiences on a console that a lot already own.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 28, 2011 18:49:00 GMT -5
Most importantly of all, Atlus is one of the third party publishers supporting the NGP. (well yes, they support the 3DS too, but I don't think that system has the power to handle something like a Persona game properly) Hell, I would not be shocked if Atlus announces in the near future a NGP version of Catherine.
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Post by shiranui on Jan 28, 2011 18:51:32 GMT -5
Well, there's a game I probably wouldn't play on a crowded bus or train. ;D
The very, very pink menus in Persona 3 Portable have already gotten me some odd looks when I play it in a public setting...
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 28, 2011 18:54:38 GMT -5
Seeing how easy it is to port PS3 games directly to the NGP with little to nothing lost in the process, I think it is safe to say that the NGP is going to have a very good library of games. It probably won't even cost developers/publishers much, if anything, to port it from the PS3 to the NGP. That, and it has portable Uncharted. All arguments that its lineup will suck are automatically invalid on that basis alone. People were saying that you could just port PS2 games to the PSP and that will bump up its library. But people tend to want those full fledged experiences to be on a console rather then a portable. Portable gaming lends its self to drop in drop out gameplay more often. You could port a lot of stuff from PS3 to the NGP but will most people want those games on their PS3 on a bigger screen in an atmosphere they can fully enjoy. One of the reasons people preferred to play the PS2 versions of PSP games was because, well, the PSP only had one analog stick. This made a lot of genres next to impossible on the PSP. For one, it pretty much killed any chance of FPS games being on the device, and if there was a third person shooter, it had to do some kind of clunky work around the lack of a second analog stick. The NGP has two analog sticks, meaning any and all console genres can be played, and it has an OLED screen, meaning the games look BEAUTIFUL. It is more or less a 5 inch mini-HDTV. Also, if people want drop in drop out portable gaming now, they might as well just stick with the iPhone, as the 3DS is also trying to recreate portable console experiences. Very few of the system's 23 known launch window games are drop in drop out games, most of them are full on console length games like Splinter Cell and Resident Evil.
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Post by wcw on Jan 28, 2011 19:23:23 GMT -5
People were saying that you could just port PS2 games to the PSP and that will bump up its library. But people tend to want those full fledged experiences to be on a console rather then a portable. Portable gaming lends its self to drop in drop out gameplay more often. You could port a lot of stuff from PS3 to the NGP but will most people want those games on their PS3 on a bigger screen in an atmosphere they can fully enjoy. One of the reasons people preferred to play the PS2 versions of PSP games was because, well, the PSP only had one analog stick. This made a lot of genres next to impossible on the PSP. For one, it pretty much killed any chance of FPS games being on the device, and if there was a third person shooter, it had to do some kind of clunky work around the lack of a second analog stick. The NGP has two analog sticks, meaning any and all console genres can be played, and it has an OLED screen, meaning the games look BEAUTIFUL. It is more or less a 5 inch mini-HDTV. Also, if people want drop in drop out portable gaming now, they might as well just stick with the iPhone, as the 3DS is also trying to recreate portable console experiences. Very few of the system's 23 known launch window games are drop in drop out games, most of them are full on console length games like Splinter Cell and Resident Evil. Its still a small screen. Why pay 300-350 dollars to play games you can get on a much bigger screen on a system that is cheaper and has a bigger library? The portable aspect to me won't sell the system in my opinion because it doesn't offer enough beyond letting you play a console experience on the road. As I said its a lot like when the PSP first launched
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Post by Macho Dude Handy Damage on Jan 28, 2011 19:28:10 GMT -5
I am really skeptical about the new PSP. I'm just not sure if Sony should bother much with the PSP and rather go for a smart phone which can also play videogames like a PSP.
With the way the smart phones sales are going up and their popularity soaring, I'm not sure if handheld gaming consoles is worth the effort much longer.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 28, 2011 19:44:41 GMT -5
One of the reasons people preferred to play the PS2 versions of PSP games was because, well, the PSP only had one analog stick. This made a lot of genres next to impossible on the PSP. For one, it pretty much killed any chance of FPS games being on the device, and if there was a third person shooter, it had to do some kind of clunky work around the lack of a second analog stick. The NGP has two analog sticks, meaning any and all console genres can be played, and it has an OLED screen, meaning the games look BEAUTIFUL. It is more or less a 5 inch mini-HDTV. Also, if people want drop in drop out portable gaming now, they might as well just stick with the iPhone, as the 3DS is also trying to recreate portable console experiences. Very few of the system's 23 known launch window games are drop in drop out games, most of them are full on console length games like Splinter Cell and Resident Evil. Its still a small screen. Why pay 300-350 dollars to play games you can get on a much bigger screen on a system that is cheaper and has a bigger library? The portable aspect to me won't sell the system in my opinion because it doesn't offer enough beyond letting you play a console experience on the road. As I said its a lot like when the PSP first launched You are just guessing at the price right now. For all we know, it could be $200-$250.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 28, 2011 19:48:35 GMT -5
I am really skeptical about the new PSP. I'm just not sure if Sony should bother much with the PSP and rather go for a smart phone which can also play videogames like a PSP. With the way the smart phones sales are going up and their popularity soaring, I'm not sure if handheld gaming consoles is worth the effort much longer. Yeah, you slap a phone in the PSP2 and all of a sudden you can charge $600+ to buy one outright and nobody would bat an eye. The iPhone 4 is $650-750 here in Canada.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2011 19:48:46 GMT -5
Sony largely doesn't interest me. I loved the PS2 mostly due to the huge library of games, but the PSP and PS3 never did a thing for me. And for that matter the PS1 I mostly just used Harvest Moon and SmackDown.q
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 28, 2011 19:55:02 GMT -5
Its still a small screen. Why pay 300-350 dollars to play games you can get on a much bigger screen on a system that is cheaper and has a bigger library? The portable aspect to me won't sell the system in my opinion because it doesn't offer enough beyond letting you play a console experience on the road. As I said its a lot like when the PSP first launched You are just guessing at the price right now. For all we know, it could be $200-$250. I would bet my house that this doesn't launch at any cheaper then $300. And I think that's the low end of the price spectrum for this.
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