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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Dec 16, 2010 11:47:26 GMT -5
I am young, up-and-coming wrestler who has just learned that I will be getting my chance to prove myself on the greatest stage in wrestling, the WWE. Lets say I'm Shad Gaspard. Or David-Hart Smith. Or Jimmy Uso. Or Brie Bella. Or Conquistador #2. Whoever. Why on earth would I want to focus any of my time and energy into creating a successful tag team?
- Its going to take time, effort and focus away from winning more prestigious singles titles.
- Its going to leave people with the impression that I might not be able to achieve anything on my own.
- Its going to end up with me having to share my accomplishments. (Which being hungry for the limelight enough to become a pro-wrestler in the first place in going to eat me up inside.)
- Whilst it could help gain needed experience, I could still easily gather that from singles matches.
- Its going to make me dilute my unique and dynamic personality and will do the same to my partners.
- Its more than likely my partner is having the same doubts.
- We're going to have to spend AGES deciding on a matching outfit.
Its just going to suck, really. So, why?
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Post by Woooooolhouse! on Dec 16, 2010 11:49:15 GMT -5
Right now, if you are in a tag team you have a great chance at holding a WWE title at least once...
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Post by percymania on Dec 16, 2010 15:31:26 GMT -5
Yeah, right now would be a great time to form a tag team as there is almost no competition for the titles.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Dec 16, 2010 18:27:12 GMT -5
So you're saying what's the point of tag teams?
Vince McMahon, is that you?
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Post by pink on Dec 16, 2010 18:37:19 GMT -5
Allow me.
- You'll always have somone having your back and helping you win.
- You're more likely to remain a contender for a title.
- People will care more about a Tag Team than a Singles Wrestler.
- What you lack in Charisma or Wrestling Skill, your partner can cover for you.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2010 18:43:19 GMT -5
Most tag teams are of a similar stature, therefore you automatically increase your wardrobe by being in a tag team.
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Post by Skeptical Mind on Dec 16, 2010 18:45:14 GMT -5
- Its going to take time, effort and focus away from winning more prestigious[/i] singles titles.[/quote] *puts on auto mechanic costume* Well THERE'S your problem! |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 16, 2010 18:55:45 GMT -5
The problem is that in most televised wrestling, it's been shifted that the ultimate goal is to be the "biggest star", regardless of if you're the Champion or not (look at the Batista/Cena feud as proof of that). And you can't be the biggest star, the one who gets the movie/TV roles and the biggest contracts and the biggest percentage of merchandise sales. With kayfabe having had its doors blown off, they don't really try to sell that the best guy is the one who wins the title. They sell that the best guy is the one who becomes a crossover star and sells the most merch.
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Post by 8-BitAssassin on Dec 16, 2010 19:20:36 GMT -5
Regardless of how much Vince craps on tag teams, a lot of major stars got their start in a tag team and may not have have been as successful without either the name recognition from being in a successful tag team (Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, etc) or got a push after being in a successful tag team (Sting, Dolph Ziggler, etc).
If anything there should be more tag teams or stables to allow young wrestlers to have a cushion to develop their skills and character in the WWE environment without being singled out as bland guys that nobody has ever heard of. Please see the Nexus. Would most of them have ever appeared in the upper card without the group support that they had? Probably not. Can every casual fan name every member of the Nexus by name? Probably not. But they sure know the Nexus, and the individual members will slowly get more recognition as they make more appearances, and if they don't totally stagnate they could be the future staple guys in the company.
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Post by funguy11 on Dec 16, 2010 19:58:32 GMT -5
I am young, up-and-coming wrestler who has just learned that I will be getting my chance to prove myself on the greatest stage in wrestling, the WWE. Lets say I'm Shad Gaspard. Or David-Hart Smith. Or Jimmy Uso. Or Brie Bella. Or Conquistador #2. Whoever. Why on earth would I want to focus any of my time and energy into creating a successful tag team? - Its going to take time, effort and focus away from winning more prestigious singles titles. - Its going to leave people with the impression that I might not be able to achieve anything on my own. - Its going to end up with me having to share my accomplishments. (Which being hungry for the limelight enough to become a pro-wrestler in the first place in going to eat me up inside.) - Whilst it could help gain needed experience, I could still easily gather that from singles matches. - Its going to make me dilute my unique and dynamic personality and will do the same to my partners. - Its more than likely my partner is having the same doubts. - We're going to have to spend AGES deciding on a matching outfit. Its just going to suck, really. So, why?
So that when your team breaks up (no longer than 12 months into your partnership) you can cut a promo equating your now former partner to Marty Jannetty! |
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Post by 'Smart' Mark Poindexter on Dec 16, 2010 21:29:11 GMT -5
Backup..a built in feud when the team eventually splits? Maybe just because sometimes it's nice to have friends? I can think of a bunch of reasons both kayfabe and not but most of them have already been covered.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Dec 16, 2010 22:29:25 GMT -5
Lets just think about this from a kayfabe point of view, shall we guys? So you're saying what's the point of tag teams? Vince McMahon, is that you? Yes. And yes. Allow me. - You'll always have somone having your back and helping you win. - You're more likely to remain a contender for a title. - People will care more about a Tag Team than a Singles Wrestler. - What you lack in Charisma or Wrestling Skill, your partner can cover for you. - I can win on my own, thank you. - But its a title that means nothing. - Hence why the arena explodes when ever The Usos come out and Del Rio gets crickets? - What I lack in charisma or wrestling skills I can learn in time. - Its going to take time, effort and focus away from winning more prestigious[/i] singles titles.[/quote] *puts on auto mechanic costume* Well THERE'S your problem![/quote] Well, thats the way it is. And quite frankly the way it always has been. Maybe just because sometimes it's nice to have friends? Surely I can still have friends and not have my entire career depend on them? In short, f*** tag team wrestling. |
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Post by Skeptical Mind on Dec 16, 2010 22:50:12 GMT -5
Lets just think about this from a kayfabe point of view, shall we guys? If you're going to do that, you can't say things like "the tag titles mean nothing" because under WWE Universe rules every title is prestigious. Kayfabe also makes it a lot easier to explain. It's like asking why some athletes choose to compete in team events versus singles events. People have different passions and work better in different settings. You need to look at tag team wrestling as a whole separate performance division, not just two single guys together. |
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Post by nisidhe on Dec 16, 2010 22:59:52 GMT -5
Tag team wrestling can work for a number of reasons.
It'll give people the impression that you, unlike most wrestlers seemingly these days, can play well with others and are more willing to act for the good of the company and the profession.
Sharing accomplishments is essential to success in pro wrestling, whether in singles or in tag-team competition. Most fans now understand this but appreciate talents anyway. Even if your partner is a broomstick, if you carry that team people will notice.
Every tag team match automatically doubles the opportunities for wrestlers to get on the card. It's four in that ring during the same time often allotted for two. That's time, effort and focus available for you to build up your skills and your name.
You do not become your partner's twin, physically or stylistically. The most memorable teams are those whose strengths are complementary. Pick a common theme, or not. Beefcake and Valentine weren't often a matching pair; neither were a lot of tag teams. Matching ring attire can bring a sense to fans that the team has a collective mindset, but even that's not a guarantee.
Tag team wrestling can work for many wrestlers these days because it can provide more action and drama than singles matches when booked effectively and with respect for the form. Because it tells the promoters and the other guys that you're willing to work with those around you and not let your ego get in the way of what the promotion needs at that time.
A well-booked tag team division will turn jobbers into midcarders, and mid-carders into main-eventers. It opens up possibilities for wrestlers who may be too small or too young to be credible singles competitors, and is simply another showcase for talent that may otherwise flounder. It's worth keeping around for these reasons alone.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Dec 17, 2010 9:19:34 GMT -5
If you're going to do that, you can't say things like "the tag titles mean nothing" because under WWE Universe rules every title is prestigious. Well, O.K., they mean something, I was wrong, I apologize. What I meant to say was that its been decades since they were ever as prestigious as the world heavyweight title. So, why would someone choose to put themselves in a group were the greatest accomplishment they could achieve would be a mid-tier title? Alright, fair enough, personal choice. I guess they just see something in the art of it I cant. |
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 17, 2010 13:35:45 GMT -5
Well that's why every tag team breaks up they try to use the tag titles as a stepping stone. Even the main event guys slumming it in the tag division. A title means a pay bonus and it can straighten out your career if its spiraling down.
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