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Post by revolver86 on Jun 11, 2006 23:52:33 GMT -5
I actually wanted Cena to win so I can joyously watch the fans collectively go over the guardrailing and enter the ring to tear Cena limb-from-limb Night of the Living Dead-style!!!
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jun 11, 2006 23:52:36 GMT -5
At least with a Cena win, you would have gotten an interesting crowd reaction.
With RVD's half-assed 'win', nobody really wins. He looked weak while doing it, and the focus is taken off him completely. I've always hated any time a title changed hands through outside forces. If a guy wins a belt, it should be because he earned it, not because he lucked out.
It reminds me of Sting/Hogan, a little.
Oooh, my head. I just finished my own title bout, and let me tell you, that Henry Morgan is a stiff worker. He makes Vader look like Shawn Michaels.
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Post by mrobert21 on Jun 11, 2006 23:53:25 GMT -5
Lol, I agree there. I don't know if it was necessary to put the Vengeance graphic at the end, but then again it's Vince's product if he wants to shill the "Kiss My Ass" segment on a ECW show, he will. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the WWE vs. ECW storyline doesn't end tonight and I definitely see WWE guys invading on Tuesday's ECW taping. I said it in another thread, if they do not build at least 1 true ECW story line within the next 2 weeks, new ECW is dead. If it keeps being an Invasion it will be a flop. Tonight they did nothing to give new ECW its own identity or storylines. If they do the show they did Sunday night in front of a Smackdown crowd, they will flop dead.
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Post by ogvenom2003 on Jun 11, 2006 23:53:32 GMT -5
ECW IS BACK BABY CENA WAS PISSED THE WHOLE MATCH! NEVER SEEN THAT KINDA HEAT IN A MATCH!
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Post by mrobert21 on Jun 11, 2006 23:57:48 GMT -5
At least with a Cena win, you would have gotten an interesting crowd reaction. With RVD's half-assed 'win', nobody really wins. He looked weak while doing it, and the focus is taken off him completely. I've always hated any time a title changed hands through outside forces. If a guy wins a belt, it should be because he earned it, not because he lucked out. It reminds me of Sting/Hogan, a little. Oooh, my head. I just finished my own title bout, and let me tell you, that Henry Morgan is a stiff worker. He makes Vader look like Shawn Michaels. You are not ready for my favorite opponent Jim Beam yet then. This was Hogan /Sting with Heyman playing Bret Hart. Really lazy booking all around tonight. The fans and workers gave it their all, but the bookers gave them nothing to work with. Only a clean RVD win would have helped new ECW, this finish hurts everyone.
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Post by Lair of the Shadow MaDaBa on Jun 11, 2006 23:58:12 GMT -5
I think when I go to RAW tomorrow, I'll buy a Cena shirt just to chuck it at him.
...Or maybe I should throw one of those gold pendants at him...make my presence felt.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jun 12, 2006 0:01:24 GMT -5
At least with a Cena win, you would have gotten an interesting crowd reaction. With RVD's half-assed 'win', nobody really wins. He looked weak while doing it, and the focus is taken off him completely. I've always hated any time a title changed hands through outside forces. If a guy wins a belt, it should be because he earned it, not because he lucked out. It reminds me of Sting/Hogan, a little. Oooh, my head. I just finished my own title bout, and let me tell you, that Henry Morgan is a stiff worker. He makes Vader look like Shawn Michaels. You are not ready for my favorite opponent Jim Beam yet then. This was Hogan /Sting with Heyman playing Bret Hart. Really lazy booking all around tonight. The fans and workers gave it their all, but the bookers gave them nothing to work with. Only a clean RVD win would have helped new ECW, this finish hurts everyone. Lol, I thought it was remiscient of Starrcade 97 with Patrick there on the scene and Heyman running in to do the count. It didn't seem like Dreamer/Heyman wrote that to me, more like Dusty Rhodes..if you weeeel. There was no way they were going to let Cena get pinned clean, especially by RVD. Before the month is over, Cena would have had the title back guaranteed.
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Post by mrobert21 on Jun 12, 2006 0:08:55 GMT -5
You are not ready for my favorite opponent Jim Beam yet then. This was Hogan /Sting with Heyman playing Bret Hart. Really lazy booking all around tonight. The fans and workers gave it their all, but the bookers gave them nothing to work with. Only a clean RVD win would have helped new ECW, this finish hurts everyone. Lol, I thought it was remiscient of Starrcade 97 with Patrick there on the scene and Heyman running in to do the count. It didn't seem like Dreamer/Heyman wrote that to me, more like Dusty Rhodes..if you weeeel. There was no way they were going to let Cena get pinned clean, especially by RVD. Before the month is over, Cena would have had the title back guaranteed. 3 words for who wrote it and this is a shoot: Rambo Greg Gagne. I thought Dusty finish at first , but then I realized this is the exact same finish Verne Gagne did on Hogan / Bockwinkle 25 years ago. That finish killed the AWA dead. There are shades of Jericho / Triple H 1999 to it as well. I would not be surprised if RVD was jobbed to Cena on Raw tomorrow.
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Post by vampiro on Jun 12, 2006 0:13:36 GMT -5
It is so obvious what's going to happen. They'll say that Cena can't lose the WWE title under ECW rules or some such crap. This way, RVD did beat A champion under ECW rules. So they split the belt and it's 9 or 10 more months of Cena as champion and in a month or so, RVD jobs to a 'name' WWE defect.
Count on it.
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Post by mrobert21 on Jun 12, 2006 0:19:26 GMT -5
It is so obvious what's going to happen. They'll say that Cena can't lose the WWE title under ECW rules or some such crap. This way, RVD did beat A champion under ECW rules. So they split the belt and it's 9 or 10 more months of Cena as champion and in a month or so, RVD jobs to a 'name' WWE defect. Count on it. Tomorrow they hold the title up because Heyman made the count. RVD versus Cena Raw main event. Edge tries run in and nails RVD by accident. Cena FU's everyone and wins his title back while getting his half assed job back. Heyman saye RVD is still ECW champion because EDGe interfered same as the night before. Nobody gives a shit because RVD is just a job boy. Edge versus Cena is set up like they want.
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Post by revolver86 on Jun 12, 2006 0:22:14 GMT -5
only problem is it's cena vs. edge tommarow night.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jun 12, 2006 0:23:25 GMT -5
It is so obvious what's going to happen. They'll say that Cena can't lose the WWE title under ECW rules or some such crap. This way, RVD did beat A champion under ECW rules. So they split the belt and it's 9 or 10 more months of Cena as champion and in a month or so, RVD jobs to a 'name' WWE defect. Count on it. Tomorrow they hold the title up because Heyman made the count. RVD versus Cena Raw main event. Edge tries run in and nails RVD by accident. Cena FU's everyone and wins his title back while getting his half assed job back. Heyman saye RVD is still ECW champion because EDGe interfered same as the night before. Nobody gives a crap because RVD is just a job boy. Edge versus Cena is set up like they want. Boy, I sure hope Edge wins the belt. He's totally deserving of it. Banging your best bud's girlfriend takes a lot of work. No, wait, he's a GREAT HEEL, he's just living the gimmick. Right?
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Post by vampiro on Jun 12, 2006 0:25:36 GMT -5
only problem is it's cena vs. edge tommarow night. Cause everyone and their mother knows that WWE would NEVER do such bait and switch tactics. They never have before, right?
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Post by revolver86 on Jun 12, 2006 0:26:28 GMT -5
Goddammit, shutup! Who cares what Edge and Lita do in their personal lives. They are two consenting adults, let them do what they please, it shouldn't change the fact that Edge is extremely talented, is one of the best heels around, and nearly stole the show last night. Plus, Matt Hardy sucks, so you shouldn't feel that bad.
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Post by mrobert21 on Jun 12, 2006 0:32:01 GMT -5
Tomorrow they hold the title up because Heyman made the count. RVD versus Cena Raw main event. Edge tries run in and nails RVD by accident. Cena FU's everyone and wins his title back while getting his half assed job back. Heyman saye RVD is still ECW champion because EDGe interfered same as the night before. Nobody gives a crap because RVD is just a job boy. Edge versus Cena is set up like they want. Boy, I sure hope Edge wins the belt. He's totally deserving of it. Banging your best bud's girlfriend takes a lot of work. No, wait, he's a GREAT HEEL, he's just living the gimmick. Right? Anyone who thinks Cena and Edge are going to have a real match tomorrow when they are scheduled in a month to work a pay per view is nuts. Edge wishes he could go back in time and f*** his friend's girlfriend 5 years earlier. It was worth the STD's to finally get himself over.
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Post by vampiro on Jun 12, 2006 0:32:40 GMT -5
RE: Edge and Lita and illicit affairs:
Seriously, you're right dude. Chris Benoit had an affair also, but get this, IT WAS WITH A MARRIED WOMAN! Edge's little fling is small fries by comparison. Benoit wrecks a marriage and wont' talk about it on his own DVD. He's a bigger rear canal than Edge. Oh yeah, but he's an internet DARLING it's okay when he does it.
I'm glad he's been held down and his title reign was midcard filler.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jun 12, 2006 0:34:22 GMT -5
RE: Edge and Lita and illicit affairs: Seriously, you're right dude. Chris Benoit had an affair also, but get this, IT WAS WITH A MARRIED WOMAN! Edge's little fling is small fries by comparison. Benoit wrecks a marriage and wont' talk about it on his own DVD. He's a bigger rear canal than Edge. Oh yeah, but he's an internet DARLING it's okay when he does it. I'm glad he's been held down and his title reign was midcard filler. Well, at least Benoit can work worth a damn. But any cheating of any sort is not cool with me. Not cool at all.
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Post by mrobert21 on Jun 12, 2006 0:38:37 GMT -5
RE: Edge and Lita and illicit affairs: Seriously, you're right dude. Chris Benoit had an affair also, but get this, IT WAS WITH A MARRIED WOMAN! Edge's little fling is small fries by comparison. Benoit wrecks a marriage and wont' talk about it on his own DVD. He's a bigger rear canal than Edge. Oh yeah, but he's an internet DARLING it's okay when he does it. I'm glad he's been held down and his title reign was midcard filler. Well, at least Benoit can work worth a damn. But any cheating of any sort is not cool with me. Not cool at all. Well, there is the fact Sullivan used to abuse Nancy. Sullivan forced Nancy and Benoit to be together as some weird worked shoot that never made sense. As well as Sullivan passing Nancy arounf the locker room to the boys. Then of course Nancy and Benoit did get married and have been together for years. When personal relationships affect the in ring product they become our business.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jun 12, 2006 0:48:10 GMT -5
Now that Cena gave ECW the rub they so desperately needed, will the cHo live on? Will Cena remember his hardcore roots and take RAW to the eXtreme?
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Post by vampiro on Jun 12, 2006 0:48:18 GMT -5
RE: Edge and Lita and illicit affairs: Seriously, you're right dude. Chris Benoit had an affair also, but get this, IT WAS WITH A MARRIED WOMAN! Edge's little fling is small fries by comparison. Benoit wrecks a marriage and wont' talk about it on his own DVD. He's a bigger rear canal than Edge. Oh yeah, but he's an internet DARLING it's okay when he does it. I'm glad he's been held down and his title reign was midcard filler. Well, at least Benoit can work worth a damn. But any cheating of any sort is not cool with me. Not cool at all. You just made my point. It's somehow 'less bad' because it's Chris Benoit. Edge is frickin ten times the wrestler Chris Benoit is. It's a thing called personality and Benoit's refusal to have one keeps him mired at the bottom of the card for long stretches. It's what makes guys like Hogan, Rock and Austin megastars and keeps boring-as-dirt mat-grapplers like Malenko down below where they belong. THAT is why Edge is a better wrestler. And a better cheater too!
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