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Post by Drillbit Taylor on May 22, 2006 13:12:59 GMT -5
Offical Matches [/b] WWE Championship
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Post by EJS on May 22, 2006 13:15:09 GMT -5
Wasn't that the fake one?
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on May 22, 2006 13:16:45 GMT -5
I think that was the fake one as obviously Triple-H isn't the champion now.
I think RVD will face Cena and beat him (hopefully) then the next night, Vince will say Cena is still the WWE Champion because it wasn't at a sanctioned WWE event, however RVD will make himself the new ECW Champion.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on May 22, 2006 13:25:28 GMT -5
yea sorry i posted the wrong one first
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Post by One Legged Dog on May 22, 2006 13:32:09 GMT -5
They should call it ECW End of The Beginning
They have a trailer on ECW.com
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Post by raidersquad on May 22, 2006 16:14:49 GMT -5
cena sucks! needs to get the f*** off the forums and posting under the name "Hollywood" and other names since he is a loser whose pathetic wrestling existence is pissin me off. Get him the f****k out of WWE! (that is if it is him or whoever that is!!!)
I get it the cena hating is just people voicing opinions. Just that the the IWC is sick and tired of him.
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Post by One Legged Dog on May 22, 2006 16:16:27 GMT -5
cena sucks! needs to get the luv off the forums and posting under the name "Hollywood" and other names since he is a loser whose pathetic wrestling existence is pissin me off. Get him the f****k out of WWE! (that is if it is him or whoever that is!!!) I get it the cena hating is just people voicing opinions. Just that the the IWC is sick and tired of him. Right on!1
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Post by Dave the Dave on May 22, 2006 17:26:55 GMT -5
More like RIGHT ON!!!!!11!!!!11one!!!
BUt really can I get a "one more time" chant for Super Crazy vs. Tajiri?
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on May 22, 2006 17:49:11 GMT -5
i've been away for the weekend, what i miss? is simon diamond taking on chilly willy yet?
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Post by samson on May 22, 2006 18:33:04 GMT -5
Sorry post something negative, but doesn't anyone else think the name sucks? "One Night Stand Two"?? I thought the whole point of a one night stand was that it was a one time only thing? So how can you have two? It's a shame because they could've been really creative. ECW has had some great PPV names such as "Barely Legal", etc.
It's just laziness on WWE's part.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2006 20:11:33 GMT -5
Sorry post something negative, but doesn't anyone else think the name sucks? "One Night Stand Two"?? I thought the whole point of a one night stand was that it was a one time only thing? So how can you have two? It's a shame because they could've been really creative. ECW has had some great PPV names such as "Barely Legal", etc. It's just laziness on WWE's part. When it was first announced I read it was going to be called Another One Night Stand. I could be wrong, but that's what I remember.
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Post by PrinceD on May 22, 2006 20:39:56 GMT -5
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Post by Jeff on Jun 11, 2006 21:22:00 GMT -5
I want Cena to win so bad just to shut up the ECW fans. And I don't like Cena one bit. But he will get lynched!
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Post by mrobert21 on May 30, 2006 21:38:29 GMT -5
From what I read, Ross was really hyping Cena getting booed at 1 Night Stand. Every smart ECW fan heard that so they will Conway pop him now because ECW fans love being unpredictable. I was wrong thinking Cena would get lynched unfortunately, but the fact is an ECW audience is too smart to react at all to a poser like Cena. However, if you want to hear the most silence ever at a wrestling event because Cen'as reaction will make the Crucifiction skit look like the Super Bowl in terms of crowd noise. I am big enough to admit I was wrong. I initially believed in a clean RVD victory, then in a screw job RVD victory, but neither are likely. I read about Superman Cena tossing Nitro onto RVD making then both look like garbage while they rolled around on the floor. Combine that with the Heyman promo and we have Superman Cena over coming the odds yet again. Anything besides a clean RVD win kills ECW. Just making RVD the number 2 ECW guy to Angle makes them a failure. All my hopes have been dashed and my fears realized. It is really depressing. I did see Cena moving out of the way so RVD and Nitro would collide and he just casually walked off. WWE is rather fond of the "Overcome Teh Odds" bit that they've been pushing these past few months, so I see them saying that Cena beat RVD in his home turf. I'm also surprised that RVD didn't come out during the Heyman/Foley promo. If Cena does beat RVD, I bet he fights off half the ECW roster at the same time. RVD and ECW has been booked to look like the Keystone Cops. RVD was getting an ass reaming back stage for his Vanilla Ice line on Cena, so he could not come out. If he came out there then, he would not be playing second fiddle to Angle like they wanted him to.
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Post by Rick Mad on May 30, 2006 21:45:45 GMT -5
From what I read, Ross was really hyping Cena getting booed at 1 Night Stand. Every smart ECW fan heard that so they will Conway pop him now because ECW fans love being unpredictable. I was wrong thinking Cena would get lynched unfortunately, but the fact is an ECW audience is too smart to react at all to a poser like Cena. However, if you want to hear the most silence ever at a wrestling event because Cen'as reaction will make the Crucifiction skit look like the Super Bowl in terms of crowd noise. ECW fans may be legendary, but I don't think they're legendary enough to know to give a silent reaction to a guy they don't like. I was thinking it would be cool if they could just, like, totally ignore the match (turn their backs, leave, who knows) but no. They will boo like they have never booed before.
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Post by mrobert21 on May 30, 2006 21:59:55 GMT -5
From what I read, Ross was really hyping Cena getting booed at 1 Night Stand. Every smart ECW fan heard that so they will Conway pop him now because ECW fans love being unpredictable. I was wrong thinking Cena would get lynched unfortunately, but the fact is an ECW audience is too smart to react at all to a poser like Cena. However, if you want to hear the most silence ever at a wrestling event because Cen'as reaction will make the Crucifiction skit look like the Super Bowl in terms of crowd noise. ECW fans may be legendary, but I don't think they're legendary enough to know to give a silent reaction to a guy they don't like. I was thinking it would be cool if they could just, like, totally ignore the match (turn their backs, leave, who knows) but no. They will boo like they have never booed before. Why not, they have done it before. Awesome got it at the start of his match last year. Dreamer got it for years in ECW. These guys were trying to give ECW fans what they wanted and got Conway popped, so what do you think is going to happen to Cena who has admitted he thinks little of hardcore wrestling fans and has neither the ability nor inclanation to give ECW fans what they want. Edge will get booed. He has hardcore credentials and is a solid heel so fans will boo him. Cena is the poopy Superman face McMahon wants booed in this environment so Cena can over come them all and keep the strap. ECW fans can see through that and they are going to make it a disaster for McMahon in a way McMahon never conceived.
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Post by Rick Mad on May 30, 2006 22:24:52 GMT -5
We'll see. I just think they'll be too excited to boo the guy insanely to really think about the "lets be silent" idea.
Someone here has to be going to ONS2 I would think. Maybe they could pass out fliers telling everyone that hates Cena to be quiet during the main event. Hmm.
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Post by jpinkston57 on May 30, 2006 22:26:13 GMT -5
The really shitty thing about this year's ONS is that it'll totally make casual marks forget just how great the original ONS was. One night, no storylines, just great matches and wrestlers going all out to pay tribute to the fans and the greatness that was ECW. ONS should have been ECW's final farewell and not the new ECW in name only. This has no business being promoted as an ECW event, never in a million years would Heyman ever put John Cena in ECW. I actually don't hate Cena like a lot of other people (I'm for the most part neutral on the guy, don't really like or hate 'em), but he just doesn't belong in the ECW brand name. This is not ECW One Night Stand, last year's was and was arguably the greatest and most exciting wrestling PPV of all time. This is WWE Required Monthly PPV Only This Time With Some ECW Guys Thrown In There And In The Building Where We Originally Had RAW At.
And Foley's quasi-heel turn is pointless, just like Edge's title reign. Though he can still rattle off pretty good promos that probably make casual fans think he's shooting, maybe more people would actually believe what he says about ECW if he didn't write about how important they were to his career IN A BESTSELLING BOOK.
I was originally going to buy this PPV hoping to finally view the moment where WWE goes all the way in in promoting RVD. No one in the history of the sport has been more overdue for a title reign (with the possible exception of Andre the Giant). Now, all the fans are going to get is Cena retaining at a PPV for the umpteenth time, only this time completely crapping on a storied legacy. The sad part is that only a quarter of the people who buy the PPV will be pissed.
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Post by mrobert21 on May 30, 2006 23:13:16 GMT -5
The really crapty thing about this year's ONS is that it'll totally make casual marks forget just how great the original ONS was. One night, no storylines, just great matches and wrestlers going all out to pay tribute to the fans and the greatness that was ECW. ONS should have been ECW's final farewell and not the new ECW in name only. This has no business being promoted as an ECW event, never in a million years would Heyman ever put John Cena in ECW. I actually don't hate Cena like a lot of other people (I'm for the most part neutral on the guy, don't really like or hate 'em), but he just doesn't belong in the ECW brand name. This is not ECW One Night Stand, last year's was and was arguably the greatest and most exciting wrestling PPV of all time. This is WWE Required Monthly PPV Only This Time With Some ECW Guys Thrown In There And In The Building Where We Originally Had RAW At. And Foley's quasi-heel turn is pointless, just like Edge's title reign. Though he can still rattle off pretty good promos that probably make casual fans think he's shooting, maybe more people would actually believe what he says about ECW if he didn't write about how important they were to his career IN A BESTSELLING BOOK. I was originally going to buy this PPV hoping to finally view the moment where WWE goes all the way in in promoting RVD. No one in the history of the sport has been more overdue for a title reign (with the possible exception of Andre the Giant). Now, all the fans are going to get is Cena retaining at a PPV for the umpteenth time, only this time completely crapping on a storied legacy. The sad part is that only a quarter of the people who buy the PPV will be pissed. Sir, you are a gentleman, scholar, and wrestling expert. This year's 1 Night Stand is for the casual marks, but last year's was for us the real wrestling fans. We will not forget what the real 1 Night Stand meant to us (I have it unedited on VHS and edited on DVD) so f*** the casual marks and what ever they think. I was not an ECW fan when they were alive, but your description of the last 1 Night Stand is right on and it was the greatest wrestling pay per view of all time. Foley's heel turn where he does nothing heelish is the drizzling shits. Like Angle going from anti ECW crusader to number 1 ECW singles wrestler, having Foley who last year was at ECW supporting and praising them start bashing them is pointless and illogical. Foley wrote the whole angle himself and it is clear he wrote the angle so in 6 months when his book comes out nobody will remember the heel turn and book sales will not be hurt. Considering most smarks and casual marks view Foley as the greatest Hardcore wrestler ever and possibly the greatest wrestler perion, having Foley come out and call himself that is not going to draw any heat. Your opinion of the great Rob Van Dam is totally on the mark and he is the greatest professional wrestler to never be World Champion. If in 2001 the business had moved towards his cocky, smart, confident stoner character instead of making everbody and their brother an anti authority, screaming, lame, bad ass, the Monday Night War wrestling boom would not have ended. I was also going to buy 1 Night Stand despite being unemployed to see him take his place on top of professional wrestling, but an unfunny thing happenned on the way to the pay per view. He jobbed clean to the Aunt Jemima clone's baby boy in a thrown together crap match with 10 guys, any of whom should have done the job besides Van Dam. That Raw, which was the last 1 I watched, followed by the next 2 Raws I just read about have proved to me RVD will never be given the chance he deserves. Maybe only a quarter of fans who watch Cena winning again will be pissed, but I am betting that like me they will be so pissed they quit watching. Eroding that hardcore fan base is what WCW did for years thinking the casual marks would make up for it then 1 day all the casual marks grew up and vanished and the next thing you know they were cancelled. Wrestling right now is at the same place it was at in 1992 - 1993 (making money, but getting weaker) and McMahon is making the same mistakes he did then that almost bankrupted him in 1995 (replace Luger with Cena and you get the picture).
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Post by jpinkston57 on May 31, 2006 0:11:58 GMT -5
Sir, you are a gentleman, scholar, and wrestling expert. This year's 1 Night Stand is for the casual marks, but last year's was for us the real wrestling fans. We will not forget what the real 1 Night Stand meant to us (I have it unedited on VHS and edited on DVD) so luv the casual marks and what ever they think. I was not an ECW fan when they were alive, but your description of the last 1 Night Stand is right on and it was the greatest wrestling pay per view of all time. Foley's heel turn where he does nothing heelish is the drizzling craps. Like Angle going from anti ECW crusader to number 1 ECW singles wrestler, having Foley who last year was at ECW supporting and praising them start bashing them is pointless and illogical. Foley wrote the whole angle himself and it is clear he wrote the angle so in 6 months when his book comes out nobody will remember the heel turn and book sales will not be hurt. Considering most smarks and casual marks view Foley as the greatest Hardcore wrestler ever and possibly the greatest wrestler perion, having Foley come out and call himself that is not going to draw any heat. Your opinion of the great Rob Van Dam is totally on the mark and he is the greatest professional wrestler to never be World Champion. If in 2001 the business had moved towards his cocky, smart, confident stoner character instead of making everbody and their brother an anti authority, screaming, lame, bad ass, the Monday Night War wrestling boom would not have ended. I was also going to buy 1 Night Stand despite being unemployed to see him take his place on top of professional wrestling, but an unfunny thing happenned on the way to the pay per view. He jobbed clean to the Aunt Jemima clone's baby boy in a thrown together crap match with 10 guys, any of whom should have done the job besides Van Dam. That Raw, which was the last 1 I watched, followed by the next 2 Raws I just read about have proved to me RVD will never be given the chance he deserves. Maybe only a quarter of fans who watch Cena winning again will be pissed, but I am betting that like me they will be so pissed they quit watching. Eroding that hardcore fan base is what WCW did for years thinking the casual marks would make up for it then 1 day all the casual marks grew up and vanished and the next thing you know they were cancelled. Wrestling right now is at the same place it was at in 1992 - 1993 (making money, but getting weaker) and McMahon is making the same mistakes he did then that almost bankrupted him in 1995 (replace Luger with Cena and you get the picture). Thanks for the kind words (us Midwesterners need to stick together!). I, too missed the original incarnation of ECW (except for a couple episodes of the TNN show, which did introduce me to Rob Van Dam and show me some cool stuff with him and Jerry Lynn despite being overwhelmingly bad), but after reading your account on it a few months back on this very forum I downloaded it on LimeWire because I respect your knowledge, opinion, and my tendency to agree with your views. I had never seen anything like it before and instantly LOVED it, especaially the Tanaka-Awesome match, even though it was the first match I had seen for either. Will Foley ever truly recover from this current angle? The casual marks will always be behind him, but I think the IWC will definately take a semi-altered view of him, especially in his comments before his "retirement match", "I don't wanna be one of those guys who 'retires' and then comes back 6 months later." Foley the 1/2 assed heel has no place being in a place when everybody just wants plain-old Mick Foley to be. I think this angle will hurt his legacy a lil more than he realizes, and that's coming from a long-time (if 9 years can be considered a long time) Foley fan. Van Dam being jobbed out, though bad, is not nearly as bad as Mysterio being jobbed out before Judgment Day, "Hey, let's take our champion and have him get his ass kicked for a full month, that'll make people buy our PPVs." Van Dam should've had the belt, even for a short while, back within the first year of his arrival in the WWE (even during the Invasion angle, the guy was white-hot and incredibly over with the fans). I noticed a thread on here talkin' about all the positives for the WWE. Personally, I don't see one, just nothing but bleakness ahead untill something revolutionary springs up, but won't happen untill it bottoms out again, like you mentioned.
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