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Post by Trent Valentine on Dec 5, 2010 23:27:53 GMT -5
Continuing from chunkylover's thread of Warrior in 1996, Warrior went to WCW. Many say he was brought back so Hogan can get his payback for that loss at Wrestlemania 6.
Anyways, It started out as Warrior entering the ring right in the middle of a Hollywood Hulk Hogan promo. Hogan looked like he seen Linda naked as he stood with his jaw falling to the floor. Warrior proclaimed that he would rid the wrestling world of Hogan.
And as the weeks went by, Warrior continued to play mind games with the Orange Goblin. One part had Warrior taunting Hogan with his signal which looked like a direct ripoff of the Bat Signal. Hogan then saw Warrior in the mirror..yet...no one else could see him...but we did. Soon it all culminated with Warrior abducting Brutus Beefacke..Booty Man...The Disciple...whatever the hell his name was at the time..and made him part of the oWn.
With all this mind numbing crap that happened, the match finally came. Many were expecting to see a repeat of their match from Wrestlemania VI...man were we wrong. There was so many botches in this match I lost count, including Hogan nearly BBQing his face with a lit match that he was supposed to throw at Warrior.
Horace Hogan earns a place in my heart for stopping this match by blasting The Ultimate Moron with a chair. Hogan gets the win and evens the score.
...Then Warrior disappeared. It's easy to say his run in WCW was a flop, but what was it meant to accomplish? Was it all just so Hogan can feed his ego that he beat the only man that ended his undefeated streak years ago? Or was Warrior just looking for the money?
..Answer quickly before he thinks of making his comic book return to Marvel/DC..
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Post by flatsdomino on Dec 5, 2010 23:43:47 GMT -5
IIRC I heard that Bischoff's original plan for Starrcade '98 was a double main event of Goldberg/Warrior and Hogan/Bret. Not sure how that would've worked.
Personally I would've had the Warrior be more unbalanced and "unstable", never reveal what his motives for coming to WCW were, and beat Hogan at Halloween Havok when Nash comes out and destroys the NWO Black and White. Then Warrior would continue his mysterious path of destruction, eventually gunning for Goldberg, leading to Goldberg/Warrior. Sure, it would be a crappy match, but it'd draw. And Goldberg would win, giving him even more legitimacy. Then the other main event would be Hogan/Nash with the loser having to leave WCW, where Hogan loses and leaves for a while before returning as a face, ending the NWO for good. The NWO is over and the new central storyline, Goldberg's streak, would continue and evolve. And Goldberg would go over ANOTHER of the "unbeatable" guys from the old regime, thus continuing solidification of him as the new face of wrestling. A feud with Nash would be next, and Goldberg would win that, too. The streak shouldn't have ended until someone deserving was either built up or signed, and everyone who was around should have been used to get Goldberg more over. Goldberg WAS WCW to a lot of people, and they should've just cashed in on that and ran with it. Out with the show being about the NWO, in with the show being about Goldberg.
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Post by percymania on Dec 6, 2010 0:47:58 GMT -5
What was the purpose? Ratings, buyrates, etc... Warrior was a still a big name at the time and fans wanted him to return. They were asking for it. Hogan vs. Warrior at WM6 was considered one of the biggest matches of all-time, and WCW was hoping to recapture some of that magic. Fans were quickly turned off, though, when Warrior did come back. They hated his long, nonsensical promos, his gimmicky disappearing act, and his limited in-ring ability. The extraordinarily hyped rematch between Hogan and Warrior was a complete dud. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but it just didn't work out.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Dec 6, 2010 16:45:23 GMT -5
I'd say it showed just how blatantly uninventive WCW was at that period, and how they felt like they had to hitch their wagon to stars made outside of their company instead of building their own more. The nWo caused a stir because it was being portrayed as WWF invading in a way. So they decided "Hey, lets get the Ultimate Warrior to wrestle Hulk Hogan again. That was a big draw in 1990, I bet it'll draw big now!" So you had a feud based on a match from almost a decade prior, in another company.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Dec 6, 2010 16:54:26 GMT -5
I am disappointed they he didn't do much with Sting. Either as tag team partners or opponents.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Dec 6, 2010 17:10:34 GMT -5
I am disappointed they he didn't do much with Sting. Either as tag team partners or opponents. They did have that infamous Sting/Warrior vs. Hulk Hogan/Bret Hart match on Nitro. I believe that was the Warrior's last appearance for WCW. |
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Dec 6, 2010 18:02:15 GMT -5
I am disappointed they he didn't do much with Sting. Either as tag team partners or opponents. Sting's history w/ Warrior wasn't well known by the general public, so it'd just have been confusing catering to small segments of the audience... nother WCW downfall. |
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Post by lordkain316 on Dec 6, 2010 19:17:53 GMT -5
I am disappointed they he didn't do much with Sting. Either as tag team partners or opponents. Sting's history w/ Warrior wasn't well known by the general public, so it'd just have been confusing catering to small segments of the audience... nother WCW downfall. The amusing thing about the Sting/Warrior tag team was that Borden and Helwig hated each other even back in the day when they were tag team parterns in both CWA and UWF. As far as Warriors WCW run goes personally I always saw it as Bischoff looking for a short term fix during the Monday Night wars and nothing more. |
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Dec 6, 2010 19:51:48 GMT -5
I am disappointed they he didn't do much with Sting. Either as tag team partners or opponents. Warrior did reference it a little in a promo in which Sting appeared. It's not much, but that's more continuity that wrestling often gets. |
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Dec 6, 2010 19:53:45 GMT -5
I am disappointed they he didn't do much with Sting. Either as tag team partners or opponents. They did have that infamous Sting/Warrior vs. Hulk Hogan/Bret Hart match on Nitro. I believe that was the Warrior's last appearance for WCW. i still have that much and i love it, the looks on both bret and stings faces and their body language is amazing, neither want to be there, especially bret selling for warrior |
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Post by Starshine on Dec 6, 2010 20:51:04 GMT -5
In principal, it wasn't a terrible idea. Deliver a rematch of a match that drew huge.
Only problem was that the match had happened around 8 years earlier and neither man was close to his physical prime.
Though I never understood the arguement WWE gave for the promo in their Warrior burial DVD. Hogan said it was dumb to mention that he'd beaten him before. But if he didn't say that why would anyone (who wasn't aware) even care about the match in the first place?
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Dec 6, 2010 21:49:17 GMT -5
My guess would be to give Hogan a win over Warrior because I seriously doubt that WCW had long term plans for Warrior
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Post by chunkylover53 on Dec 7, 2010 0:02:56 GMT -5
I'm surprised The Warrior didn't perform bondage on The Disciple.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Dec 7, 2010 3:45:16 GMT -5
I'm surprised The Warrior didn't perform bondage on The Disciple. It would've probably just made Santa Claus jealous. |
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Post by johnnyk9 on Dec 7, 2010 8:03:41 GMT -5
Bischoff sees Vince looming as an equal rival again, he was willing to try anything to compete, he just went to far over his head bringing in The Warrior
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 7, 2010 9:46:46 GMT -5
My guess would be to give Hogan a win over Warrior because I seriously doubt that WCW had long term plans for Warrior I'll even give them credit there. Even WCW knew that Warrior was not reliable in the long term, so don't bother to plan for it. |
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 7, 2010 10:37:54 GMT -5
The purpose was to pop a buyrate and get Hogan his win back.
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Post by romafan87 on Dec 7, 2010 17:08:00 GMT -5
I'm surprised The Warrior didn't perform bondage on The Disciple. He DID though, actually. He had him tied up a few times. |
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Post by percymania on Dec 8, 2010 1:42:23 GMT -5
In principal, it wasn't a terrible idea. Deliver a rematch of a match that drew huge. Only problem was that the match had happened around 8 years earlier and neither man was close to his physical prime. Though I never understood the arguement WWE gave for the promo in their Warrior burial DVD. Hogan said it was dumb to mention that he'd beaten him before. But if he didn't say that why would anyone (who wasn't aware) even care about the match in the first place? I think Hogan was the ONLY person who had a problem with this. Mainly because he didn't like to be reminded that he lost. I don't know another person who cared at all about Warrior saying this. |
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