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Post by noleafclover1980 on Apr 30, 2011 21:26:34 GMT -5
So, which was your fav. I'd say the one that actually shocked me the most was Jade Empire. I legit did not see that coming, and was kinda pissed lol {Spoiler}KotOR:The PC IS Revan {Spoiler}Jade Empire: Your entire training amounted to be a pawn in your Master's scheme to usurp the throne from his brother. It turns out the TRUE enemy was the supposed kindly master that raised you. {Spoiler}Mass Effect: Soveirn wasn't just a ship, it was an ACTUAL Reaper, Saren was a pawn. {Spoiler}Mass Effect 2: The Collectors were indoctrinated Protheans.
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Post by SamTastic thinks CM Punk sucks on Apr 30, 2011 21:34:10 GMT -5
KOTOR by a country mile!
I am gonna say that because it is my favourite game of all time.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on May 1, 2011 1:22:56 GMT -5
I'm actually surprised at the Jade Empire love, guess it was more popular around here then I expected.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on May 1, 2011 1:24:50 GMT -5
Jade Empire, EASILY. I was kind of able to see the one in KOTOR coming JUST before it hit, because of context clues and use of pronouns, but the twist in Jade Empire hit me like.....well, like a punch to the chest.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on May 1, 2011 1:29:38 GMT -5
I had to vote for Jade Empire's on the simple fact that it was the only one I didn't see coming. I saw KOTOR's and both Mass Effects' coming, not necessarily from a mile away, but at least saw the clues and hints. Jade Empire, well, let's just say that to this day, I'm having a hard time finding any hints to its twist occurring.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on May 1, 2011 1:31:28 GMT -5
I had to vote for Jade Empire's on the simple fact that it was the only one I didn't see coming. I saw KOTOR's and both Mass Effects' coming, not necessarily from a mile away, but at least saw the clues and hints. Jade Empire, well, let's just say that to this day, I'm having a hard time finding any hints to its twist occurring. So do I. I've played the game a LOT, and you get MAYBE....3 outright hints, all totaled, that something's not quite right, and even those hints don't lead you anywhere near the reveal.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on May 1, 2011 1:36:29 GMT -5
I had to vote for Jade Empire's on the simple fact that it was the only one I didn't see coming. I saw KOTOR's and both Mass Effects' coming, not necessarily from a mile away, but at least saw the clues and hints. Jade Empire, well, let's just say that to this day, I'm having a hard time finding any hints to its twist occurring. {Spoiler}The only real hints you get is how many people mention that your style is strange, like there is a flaw in it, but it's only there to sucker them in, when in reality it was there so you'd be a great fighter, but was easily exploited by him. The fact that he let Gao the Lesser hear his true identity, and allowed the Lotus Assassins to track him to the school make sense in context later, as he was Sun Li, the Glorious Strategist. Hind sight is 20-20 though. At the time I was like "WTF? You old son of a bitch!"
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on May 1, 2011 1:36:54 GMT -5
I had to vote for Jade Empire's on the simple fact that it was the only one I didn't see coming. I saw KOTOR's and both Mass Effects' coming, not necessarily from a mile away, but at least saw the clues and hints. Jade Empire, well, let's just say that to this day, I'm having a hard time finding any hints to its twist occurring. So do I. I've played the game a LOT, and you get MAYBE....3 outright hints, all totaled, that something's not quite right, and even those hints don't lead you anywhere near the reveal. Exactly. I mean I had a feeling that a twist like that would happen, but I had a feeling for sure that it was a different character. When it turned out to be who it was, my jaw exploded and my controller hit the flow.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on May 1, 2011 2:26:53 GMT -5
Speaking of Jade Empire plot twists... {Spoiler}The game heavily implies through conversations that Dawn Star is the daughter of Sun Li... but I don't recall it outright being said, was there ever a reveal,or do they just let you put it together on your own?
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on May 1, 2011 3:13:14 GMT -5
I had to vote for Jade Empire's on the simple fact that it was the only one I didn't see coming. I saw KOTOR's and both Mass Effects' coming, not necessarily from a mile away, but at least saw the clues and hints. Jade Empire, well, let's just say that to this day, I'm having a hard time finding any hints to its twist occurring. {Spoiler}It gets dropped a lot. Some of the people you encounter talk about the "hole" in your style, that they keep chasing. But can't find it. I chalked it up as something unique that was in your training.
Then your master buffaloes you, and I was just surprised. I knew something was gonna come up, but I didn't expect the faked death, and the backstab. But, in hindsight, it is a perfect fit to the genre.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on May 1, 2011 3:20:23 GMT -5
I had to vote for Jade Empire's on the simple fact that it was the only one I didn't see coming. I saw KOTOR's and both Mass Effects' coming, not necessarily from a mile away, but at least saw the clues and hints. Jade Empire, well, let's just say that to this day, I'm having a hard time finding any hints to its twist occurring. {Spoiler}It gets dropped a lot. Some of the people you encounter talk about the "hole" in your style, that they keep chasing. But can't find it. I chalked it up as something unique that was in your training.
Then your master buffaloes you, and I was just surprised. I knew something was gonna come up, but I didn't expect the faked death, and the backstab. But, in hindsight, it is a perfect fit to the genre. {Spoiler}Now that you mention it, I do remember a decent chunk of people talking about a hole in my style, but I never thought much of it, just thought they meant along the lines of my training not being complete. And you are right it is a perfect fit for the genre/setting of the game.
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Post by Sero on May 1, 2011 4:58:10 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Sonic Chronicles: Eggman takes over the world But only because the fact that a sequel isn't happening means that's literally how it ends.
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Post by ToyfareMark on May 2, 2011 4:30:18 GMT -5
What? No Dragon Age twist? Ok, while this isn't exactly a plot twist, the fact that you CAN have Logain in your party has to account for something.
As for Jade Empire. I played it, I finished it, despite that, its my least liked Bioware game. I just couldn't get into the whole Chinese mysticism thing. Its not a bad game by any means, just couldn't get into the setting. I would rank the Bioware games I have played like this.
1. Mass Effect 2 2. Dragon Age: Origins 3. Knights of the Old Republic 4. Dragon Age II 5. Mass Effect 6. Jade Empire
And yeah I know that Dragon Age II placement is controversial, but its my opinion.
I just started DA: Awakening. I know thats really an expansion but nonetheless I'll still add it to the list once I'm done.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on May 2, 2011 8:54:47 GMT -5
I'm surprised there isn't more Mass Effect love in this poll.
1. HOLY SHIT THE SHIP IS A REAPER!
2. HOLY SHIT THE COLLECTORS ARE PROTHEANS, AND THE REAPERS ARE MADE UP OF THE GENETIC MATERIAL OF AN ENTIRE RACE!
Jade Empire was fantastic though.
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Post by ToyfareMark on May 3, 2011 1:08:22 GMT -5
I'm surprised there isn't more Mass Effect love in this poll. 1. HOLY s*** THE SHIP IS A REAPER! 2. HOLY s*** THE COLLECTORS ARE PROTHEANS, AND THE REAPERS ARE MADE UP OF THE GENETIC MATERIAL OF AN ENTIRE RACE! Jade Empire was fantastic though. My problem with Mass Effect 1 is how it played. But then again I played 2 first. Yeah, yeah I know thats weird.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 1:24:54 GMT -5
I vote for Jade Empire. I mean, it's right there. As the game progresses, you encounter numerous people that comment on your style offering an opening they couldn't get at. It crops up too much to be a coincidence.
Even if you can't put two and two together, you know something is up, you just don't have any idea that YOUR ENTIRE LIFE HAS BEEN A RUSE.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on May 3, 2011 1:40:50 GMT -5
I vote for Jade Empire. I mean, it's right there. As the game progresses, you encounter numerous people that comment on your style offering an opening they couldn't get at. It crops up too much to be a coincidence. Even if you can't put two and two together, you know something is up, you just don't have any idea that YOUR ENTIRE LIFE HAS BEEN A RUSE. The only problem with a twist that good, is that it kinda damages replay value. Yeah, you can try other styles, different choices, but you can't recreate the fun of that first play through and the giant "WTF?" you get.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 1:48:16 GMT -5
I vote for Jade Empire. I mean, it's right there. As the game progresses, you encounter numerous people that comment on your style offering an opening they couldn't get at. It crops up too much to be a coincidence. Even if you can't put two and two together, you know something is up, you just don't have any idea that YOUR ENTIRE LIFE HAS BEEN A RUSE. The only problem with a twist that good, is that it kinda damages replay value. Yeah, you can try other styles, different choices, but you can't recreate the fun of that first play through and the giant "WTF?" you get. LOL. You know what you just posted? The other half of my post I wasn't sure if I felt I needed to throw in there or not. I'd say great minds think alike, but I don't like the idea of your noodle slumming it out with me. The same can be said of any of these games though. For example the KOTORS: KOTOR: You ARE Revan. Yeah, that's a two-timer. You can see that coming anyways. KOTOR2: Why bother when you know that Kreia is a snarky, manipulative bitch that blows the worst girlfriend you've ever had completely out of the water. Excellent Star Wars-y character; out the f***ing airlock in about five seconds IRL.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on May 3, 2011 6:00:51 GMT -5
I'm surprised there isn't more Mass Effect love in this poll. 1. HOLY s*** THE SHIP IS A REAPER! 2. HOLY s*** THE COLLECTORS ARE PROTHEANS, AND THE REAPERS ARE MADE UP OF THE GENETIC MATERIAL OF AN ENTIRE RACE! Jade Empire was fantastic though. My problem with Mass Effect 1 is how it played. But then again I played 2 first. Yeah, yeah I know thats weird. Yeah, if you play 2, THEN 1, you're probably gonna wind up hating 1, if only for the torturous inventory system. They then decided to go the opposite way in the sequel by.....ditching the inventory system entirely. Credit where it's due, Bioware never go halfway on anything.
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