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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 24, 2011 23:18:04 GMT -5
His job was on the line. Nothing was on the line for him here. He could do whatever he wanted. There, he could've easily screwed Orton over just to get his job back, but he stayed true to his word there. But tonight? He flagrantly abused his power, and reneged on his word of calling the match right down the middle. He did call it right now the middle. He screwed over both men equally.
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Post by lemonyellowson on Jan 24, 2011 23:18:05 GMT -5
look, cena has taken crap from all those guys for a long time. sees a way to screw over 2 heels. takes it. it's a face move, not a dick move. No, it's Cena's double standard. He took a lot of crap from Orton but had not problem be unbiased as a referee in his match. was he not also unbiased towards barrat in that match too? was being unbiased not a huge plot point going into that match? or are you talking about another match?
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Post by Snaptastic on Jan 24, 2011 23:18:37 GMT -5
That's kind of impossible for Bret because the person applying the move isn't actually the one who makes it look like that. Just sayin'. Oh I dunno. Nattie dragging her feet down and her legs up and over might have had something to do with it.
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Post by Cronant on Jan 24, 2011 23:18:38 GMT -5
His job was on the line. Nothing was on the line for him here. He could do whatever he wanted. So it's okay for him to be a dick then as long as he can get away with it? Yes. Barrett and Punk both started their feuds by attacking Cena. He owes them nothing. They both have led stables for the purpose of beating him up. I'm not sure why he's supposed to be nice to these guys when he's feuding with them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 23:18:44 GMT -5
To remember tonight.... I bet Morrison and Melina were able to achieve every position in the Kama Sutra, and some random parkour shenanigans.
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Post by YeahYeahYeahYeahYeah on Jan 24, 2011 23:18:57 GMT -5
I think people defend heels being dicks more becaaaauuuuuse... ba ba BUM- heels are BAD GUYS. They're supposed to be dicks.
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Post by "The Rated XXX Superstar" Jed on Jan 24, 2011 23:20:59 GMT -5
Just got home from watching RAW up at my Grandma's. My thoughts:
*The Diva's match was great, and the Sharpshooter was epic. *The payoff to the Bryan/Bellas storyline made it watchable. *I miss tag teams. *Random Michael Tarver was random. *John Cena is a dick.
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Post by Cronant on Jan 24, 2011 23:22:11 GMT -5
I think people defend heels being dicks more becaaaauuuuuse... ba ba BUM- heels are BAD GUYS. They're supposed to be dicks. That doesn't mean the faces can't do anything in retaliation to them acting like dicks. I thought the "Cena is a dick" thing was done for laughs but it seems people are really upset with the "Why is he a face!!!", yet they're ignoring like all of WWE history with how faces act.
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Post by mrjl on Jan 24, 2011 23:22:35 GMT -5
I'm sure two wrongs don't make a right. when your profession involves beating people up it does. After all, beating people up is traditionally wrong. So you're already showing a move from traditonal morals
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Post by lemonyellowson on Jan 24, 2011 23:22:46 GMT -5
I think people defend heels being dicks more becaaaauuuuuse... ba ba BUM- heels are BAD GUYS. They're supposed to be dicks. yeah but being a dick to a dick means you are the good guy. If someone was being a dick to you for 6 months and you somehow managed to grind his parents up into chilli and made him eat them (or something along those lines) the dick gets his just deserts. A dick move towards a dick, isn't a dick move, it's fighting fire with fire.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 23:22:55 GMT -5
That's kind of impossible for Bret because the person applying the move isn't actually the one who makes it look like that. Just sayin'. Oh I dunno. Nattie dragging her feet down and her legs up and over might have had something to do with it. She can't do that to someone who isn't flexible, though.
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Post by lemonyellowson on Jan 24, 2011 23:24:27 GMT -5
Oh I dunno. Nattie dragging her feet down and her legs up and over might have had something to do with it. She can't do that to someone who isn't flexible, though. well she could. the other person would just never walk again.
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Post by The F'N Captain on Jan 24, 2011 23:24:28 GMT -5
So it's okay for him to be a dick then as long as he can get away with it? Yes. Barrett and Punk both started their feuds by attacking Cena. He owes them nothing. They both have led stables for the purpose of beating him up. I'm not sure why he's supposed to be nice to these guys when he's feuding with them. See he's not supposed to invite him to the box social and give them a christmas card, but see, as the FACE ref in the situation he was supposed to call it down the middle, the silly signing the kids hat thing and shooing away both Nexus teams? That's fine, almost expected, but he stopped a match some people wanted to see (as well as it would have HELPED HIM for these two to wear each other down for the rumble, smrt Cena) with a complete abuse of power and did it with a smile and that damn smugness during the entire first Nexus feud I found unbearable. He's all butthurt for the camera but he doesn't care, he's Cena he'll get away with it..... ... isn't that a heel trait?
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Post by BigWill on Jan 24, 2011 23:25:08 GMT -5
Oh I dunno. Nattie dragging her feet down and her legs up and over might have had something to do with it. She can't do that to someone who isn't flexible, though. Well she could, but there would have to be a stretcher involved afterward.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 24, 2011 23:25:33 GMT -5
Truth be told, I really don't have a problem with what Cena did; its just that everything tonight (the rectum and raw sewage lines earlier, respective hits on Barrett/Punk, tossing Punk, the double DQ) just teetered over the top and just made him come across as obnoxious. If Cena had played everything straight, and then did the profanity DQ thing, it would have been a bit more tolerable.
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Post by lemonyellowson on Jan 24, 2011 23:26:38 GMT -5
Yes. Barrett and Punk both started their feuds by attacking Cena. He owes them nothing. They both have led stables for the purpose of beating him up. I'm not sure why he's supposed to be nice to these guys when he's feuding with them. See he's not supposed to invite him to the box social and give them a christmas card, but see, as the FACE ref in the situation he was supposed to call it down the middle, the silly signing the kids hat thing and shooing away both Nexus teams? That's fine, almost expected, but he stopped a match some people wanted to see (as well as it would have HELPED HIM for these two to wear each other down for the rumble, smrt Cena) with a complete abuse of power and did it with a smile and that damn smugness during the entire first Nexus feud I found unbearable. He's all butthurt for the camera but he doesn't care, he's Cena he'll get away with it..... ... isn't that a heel trait? agreed that i kinda wanted to see the match, but the majority of the wwe audience don't want wrestling, they want cena. so in that aspect he's still not a dick
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 23:26:54 GMT -5
It's not what you do, it's who you do it against. That rule has been in wrestling for years.
Watch Hogan stuff from the 80's and early 90's he was the biggest face in the world, but man did he cheat against the heels.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jan 24, 2011 23:27:55 GMT -5
Didn't people complain about Cena being a goody two shoes at one point?
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Post by lemonyellowson on Jan 24, 2011 23:28:38 GMT -5
It's not what you do, it's who you do it against. That rule has been in wrestling for years. Watch Hogan stuff from the 80's and early 90's he was the biggest face in the world, but man did he cheat against the heels. totally. or austin. he was a heel, but a heel against other heels. was austin a dick? gimmie a hell no.
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Post by The F'N Captain on Jan 24, 2011 23:29:07 GMT -5
It's not what you do, it's who you do it against. That rule has been in wrestling for years. Watch Hogan stuff from the 80's and early 90's he was the biggest face in the world, but man did he cheat against the heels. Even in the 80's-early nineties I remember my friends and me being kind of put off when he started beating Sherry Martel like he caught her stealing his spray tan bottles.
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