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Post by Stu on Jan 22, 2011 15:35:35 GMT -5
Okay, here's the deal. We all know how Money in the Bank works. The briefcase holder has a contract for a WWE/World Championship shot that can be used anytime, 24/7. It would be easy enough to just walk to the ring in casual fashion and cash in, although the MitB winner is more likely to win if the opponent has already been knocked out.
Case in point, it seems like moments leading up to cash-ins always involve elaborate plots that lead up to the title change. Let's run down the list:
2006: We have the Elimination Chamber at New Year's Revolution. John Cena beats five other guys and is left a bloody mess when Edge cashes in.
2006: Rob Van Damn is cashing in on Cena at One Night Stand. Although the match was planned ahead of time, the final seconds are a mess, with Edge interfering, Paul Heyman counting, etc.
2007: Edge cashes in again, right after Undertaker is attacked by Mark Henry. That occurred just after 'Taker's match with Batista. Earlier that week, the MitB briefcase was hotshotted to Edge following Kennedy's injury.
2008: CM Punk cashes in on Raw. But not before the show opened with JR giving a going-away speech that was interrupted by Edge. That was followed by Edge being attacked by Batista, leaving the champ open for Punk.
2009: CM Punk cashes in again. This time, at the end of a brutal ladder match between Jeff Hardy and Edge.
2010: Jack Swagger cashes in. But it happened at the end of Chris Jericho's promo about his Wrestlemania victory. It was interrupted by Edge, who attacked the champ and left him vulnerable to a cash-in.
2010: Kane cashes in. It followed a title match between Rey Mysterio and Jack Swagger, which was won by Rey. After the match, Swagger continued to attack Mysterio, only for Kane to come out and chase off the All American American. A moment later, Kane comes out again and easily beats Mysterio for the championship.
2010: The Miz cashes in. This time, it was after a WWE Championship match between Randy Orton and Wade Barrett. During the match, Orton was about to lose until Cena interfered. After he was chased off by the rest of Nexus, Orton recovered and pinned Barrett. That's when Miz came out and cashed in.
So that's my random observation of the day. What do you all think?
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jan 22, 2011 15:41:33 GMT -5
I think that's kinda the point. The guy who has the briefcase wields all of the power. It's meant to be unpredictable and, so often, the cash-ins are done in a chickensh*t manner, which is why the MitB is the perfect construct for a heel.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Jan 22, 2011 15:44:38 GMT -5
To be fair, everything that happened in the RVD match was perfectly legal.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 15:44:57 GMT -5
I still mourn that Edge didn't randomly cameo when Miz cashed in on Orton. Otherwise, if you count the fact the camera immediately cut to him after Kane's cash in, Edge played a part in every one of them.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 22, 2011 15:46:26 GMT -5
I'm just sick of MITB in general. Yeah, we get a decent ladder match out of it but then it's the same cash-in on a fallen wrestler situation every time. At least have the next winner "RVD" their MITB briefcase so we get a full blown match out of it.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 22, 2011 15:46:34 GMT -5
I still mourn that Edge didn't randomly cameo when Miz cashed in on Orton. Otherwise, if you count the fact the camera immediately cut to him after Kane's cash in, Edge played a part in every one of them. You can alwas no-count the MITB PPV mitb contracts After all there are watered down version fo the big one.
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Post by toonami4life on Jan 22, 2011 16:10:46 GMT -5
I'm just sick of MITB in general. Yeah, we get a decent ladder match out of it but then it's the same cash-in on a fallen wrestler situation every time. At least have the next winner "RVD" their MITB briefcase so we get a full blown match out of it. You're not the only one sick of it. It's basically gotten boring and become a foregone conclusion. At least have the next guy lose or cash it in on a full strengthed champion like RVD so when can get a match out of it. And look, none of the guys who won MITB winded up doing anything with their reigns. Edge: Winded up losing it three weeks later to Cena RVD: We all know what happened Edge 2nd time: Became unable to beat Funaki unless he had five guys helping him. Punk: Spent the entire time getting his ass handed to him and wasn't even in the match where he lost it. Punk 2nd time: Lost it to Jeff Hardy a month later and loses it to Taker in under ten minutes at HITC Swagger: WORST REIGN EVER Kane: Got involved in a stupid feud with Edge and Paul Bearer complete with vehicle homicide, wooden dummies, sobbing Thanksgiving tales, and falling ladders. Miz: Is spending more time feuding with a sixty one year old Commentator who he's 1-5 against and isn't even the focus of the show.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 22, 2011 16:16:09 GMT -5
Really, I just want to see someone win it at Mania, and then cash it in the same night after the main event. Then, you can do whatever you want after that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 16:19:15 GMT -5
As others have said, they have to either get rid of it or have more people follow in RVD's footsteps and do it properly. I'm really getting sick of the fact that the ONLY way we see new Champions is via MITB victories, followed by reigns that explicitly tell us these guys wouldn't be champions any other way. Sheamus is the only new face that won it on his own volition and even that was built as a fluke. Have some confidence in your roster for crying out loud!
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Post by punksdisciple on Jan 22, 2011 16:23:08 GMT -5
I want a face to win it and cash in either on a heel or, like a couple people have already said, "RVD" their cash in. Evan Bourne, JoMo or DBD would be awesome winners. Please, for the love of god, don't let Sheamus, D-Mac or Cody Rhodes win at WM this year (assuming it's happening).
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Jan 22, 2011 16:45:03 GMT -5
As much as it's been done, I'd love to see Punk win it again. Just to see him "RVD" the match, set up something really big at one of the major PPVs, and be really sanctimonious about how "fair" he's being with it.
That, or Bryan winning it to get a big time title shot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 16:48:14 GMT -5
I want a face to win it and cash in either on a heel or, like a couple people have already said, "RVD" their cash in. Evan Bourne, JoMo or DBD would be awesome winners. Please, for the love of god, don't let Sheamus, D-Mac or Cody Rhodes win at WM this year (assuming it's happening). Now I want Cody Rhodes to win it and put a mirror on the briefcase.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jan 22, 2011 16:50:37 GMT -5
As others have said, they have to either get rid of it or have more people follow in RVD's footsteps and do it properly. I'm really getting sick of the fact that the ONLY way we see new Champions is via MITB victories, followed by reigns that explicitly tell us these guys wouldn't be champions any other way. Sheamus is the only new face that won it on his own volition and even that was built as a fluke. Have some confidence in your roster for crying out loud! One thing they could do is eliminate the "at any time" stipulation for the title shot. Make it akin to winning the Royal Rumble. You get a title shot, but it's at a designated time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 16:52:38 GMT -5
I still want an offscreen cash-in. Either at a house show, or on the website they suddenly announce, say, John Morrison jumped The Miz in a hotel lobby, did Starship Pain off the front desk, and won the WWE Championship.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jan 22, 2011 16:56:49 GMT -5
I still want an offscreen cash-in. Either at a house show, or on the website they suddenly announce, say, John Morrison jumped The Miz in a hotel lobby, did Starship Pain off the front desk, and won the WWE Championship. "So now that's ok? Damn." - Rhino
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Post by frogsplash45 on Jan 22, 2011 17:21:02 GMT -5
I still want an offscreen cash-in. Either at a house show, or on the website they suddenly announce, say, John Morrison jumped The Miz in a hotel lobby, did Starship Pain off the front desk, and won the WWE Championship. That sounds like something WWE would do if their champ suffered terrible injury or just psychotically refused to show up for the event that week.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Jan 22, 2011 17:53:43 GMT -5
To be fair, everything that happened in the RVD match was perfectly legal. Even Heyman counting the pin? I'm just asking, not trying to bait anything.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jan 22, 2011 17:55:35 GMT -5
I still want an offscreen cash-in. Either at a house show, or on the website they suddenly announce, say, John Morrison jumped The Miz in a hotel lobby, did Starship Pain off the front desk, and won the WWE Championship. That sounds like something WWE would do if their champ suffered terrible injury or just psychotically refused to show up for the event that week. Obviously, the hotel would be in Rio de Jaineiro.
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Post by Big L on Jan 22, 2011 17:58:09 GMT -5
I think that's kinda the point. The guy who has the briefcase wields all of the power. It's meant to be unpredictable and, so often, the cash-ins are done in a chickensh*t manner, which is why the MitB is the perfect construct for a heel. I agree
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Jan 22, 2011 19:21:55 GMT -5
They need a face to cash in on an actual match the same way RVD did. And they need someone to lose it. Not on a heel cash in, but possibly have a face cash in MITB, lose the match due to outside interference, and then build a feud with that which culminates in the face winning the belt.
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