Bo Rida
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Post by Bo Rida on Jun 14, 2011 6:01:28 GMT -5
I usually hate remakes of classic cartoons but is this new Looney Tunes show is worth watching?
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Post by Fundertaker on Jun 14, 2011 6:18:52 GMT -5
Needs more Megas XLR for me to care
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jun 14, 2011 7:10:23 GMT -5
I usually hate remakes of classic cartoons but is this new Looney Tunes show is worth watching? Yes, very much so. I'd say that family/children's animation is in an upswing, both theatrical as well as television-based. Adult animation, not so much- nowadays, it seems extremely difficult to get a show on the air if it lacks a certain amount of pop culture referencing or gross-out gags. Whereas with a lot kids' shows, there seems to be a wider emotional pallet. Family Guy and South Park are good and all, but there are too many shows following just those two templates. I really shouldn't see more maturity in stuff like My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic than 2/3rds of Adult Swim's lineup, and yet I do.
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Post by Red Impact on Jun 14, 2011 7:12:53 GMT -5
I always thought the 90s were more the golden age of cartoons than the 80s. I think the 80's spent most of it's awesome on animated films. A lot of the cartoons were minimal effort toy commercials.
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Post by wildojinx on Jun 14, 2011 8:08:41 GMT -5
The only thing i dont like about most current cartoons are the theme songs. Most of the cartoons either dont have theme songs (dan vs) or are just bland instrumental themes (ie, transformers prime/gi joe renegades). Of those shows i mentioned in the first post, the only memorable themes currently are phineas and ferb and avengers: earths mightiest heroes (though the newer eps now have some narrator talking over the intro unfortunately). Too bad as the 80s and 90s had much better theme songs that sucked people into the show.
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Post by Red Impact on Jun 14, 2011 14:32:51 GMT -5
The only thing i dont like about most current cartoons are the theme songs. Most of the cartoons either dont have theme songs (dan vs) or are just bland instrumental themes (ie, transformers prime/gi joe renegades). Of those shows i mentioned in the first post, the only memorable themes currently are phineas and ferb and avengers: earths mightiest heroes (though the newer eps now have some narrator talking over the intro unfortunately). Too bad as the 80s and 90s had much better theme songs that sucked people into the show. The problem is, they seemed like they often burned their animation budget on the theme, and the difference in animation between theme song and the show was really, really noticeable.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 14, 2011 15:13:29 GMT -5
I don't know where the heck all this '80's Cartoons Were Awesome' nonsense comes from. Speaking as someone who grew up during that era looking back most of them were glorified thirty-minute toy commercials. And bad ones at that. Gimme Gargoyles or Batman or Tiny Toons over Thundercats or Transformers. Indeed, the vast bulk of 80's cartoons were VERY thinly veiled cash grabs made purely for marketing purposes. That's not to say none of the shows then rose above that, or that any of them weren't very fun despite all that (Ninja Turtles, Ghostbusters, etc.), but there wasn't much depth to just about any of them. Still, a lot of them DID have very catchy theme songs, that's true. However, again, it was the 90's where animators/directors suddenly got a LOT more control over the content of their shows, even merchandise tie-in shows, allowing them to become more expansive, creative, and well done. Thank Ren and Stimpy and Beavis and Butthead for a lot of that. That said, the 80's were an AWESOME time for animated movies, as seen with stuff like Transformers, The Brave Little Toaster, The Great Mouse Detective, the Don Bluth movies of that time (NYHM, Land Before Time, All Dogs Go to Heaven, etc.), all that great stuff. That was an era where animated/kid's movies weren't afraid to make kids feel real emotions beyond cynical/sarcastic laughter, where writers let loose on stuff like fear, sadness, legitimate happiness, etc. That's somewhere that this era has to improve vastly on, in my opinion. Pixar is mostly fantastic, yes, but kids deserve more adventure stories these days that involve more emotional depth. Maybe that's part of what drew me to Avatar so much.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 14, 2011 15:19:32 GMT -5
Honestly? No. For me I grew up on Superted, GI Joe, Ghostbusters, He-Man, Centurions, Thundercats, Chuck Norris and the Karate Commandos, Toxic Avenger, Swamp Thing, Captain Planet, Tiny Toons, Transformers, Mr. T's cartoon, and the list goes on. To me those were and are the golden years of cartoons. I find it sad that kids today don't know real cartoons. By "real cartoons" you meant glorified toy commercials, right? Because that's more or less what all of those cartoons you listed were. Few of those cartoons have aged well, and some are just flat out stupid when watching them nowadays.
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TheDieselTrain
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Jun 14, 2011 15:28:23 GMT -5
Avengers: United They Stand was the old Avengers cartoon; I think you meant to refer to Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. ;D I was about to say..... I liked that show sure it wasnt on X-Men or Spider-Man's level but it wasnt that bad but it seemed like I was the only one who actually liked it.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Jun 14, 2011 16:16:33 GMT -5
Honestly? No. For me I grew up on Superted, GI Joe, Ghostbusters, He-Man, Centurions, Thundercats, Chuck Norris and the Karate Commandos, Toxic Avenger, Swamp Thing, Captain Planet, Tiny Toons, Transformers, Mr. T's cartoon, and the list goes on. To me those were and are the golden years of cartoons. I find it sad that kids today don't know real cartoons. By "real cartoons" you meant glorified toy commercials, right? Because that's more or less what all of those cartoons you listed were. Few of those cartoons have aged well, and some are just flat out stupid when watching them nowadays. Thundercats was the *worst* with this. I remember watching an old rerun on Cartoon Network back when I was in high school and wondering what the hell I saw in it.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Jun 14, 2011 16:27:52 GMT -5
Avengers: United They Stand was the old Avengers cartoon; I think you meant to refer to Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. ;D I was about to say..... I liked that show sure it wasnt on X-Men or Spider-Man's level but it wasnt that bad but it seemed like I was the only one who actually liked it. I loved it. Yeah, it woulda been nice to have the Big Three, but getting Hawkeye, Vision, Scarlet Witch, and even a little Wonder Man was absolutely awesome.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Jun 14, 2011 17:03:42 GMT -5
Eh I liked 80's cartoons better. I had to actually wait a week for them to come on. That's why people talk fondly of them. Today's stuff isn't marketed to kids but to twentysomething males. Nothing feels special when you can watch it everyday.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Jun 14, 2011 17:06:52 GMT -5
And although the 80's did have some shitty shows so does today.
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Post by wildojinx on Jun 14, 2011 17:16:38 GMT -5
Eh I liked 80's cartoons better. I had to actually wait a week for them to come on. That's why people talk fondly of them. Today's stuff isn't marketed to kids but to twentysomething males. Nothing feels special when you can watch it everyday. Wait a week? A good chunk of 80s cartoons were in syndication and aired daily, while today's stuff you do have to wait a week for a new episode. I love 80s cartoons just as much as everyone else (i love all eras of animation, even the so-called "dark ages" of the 60s and 70s) but lets face facts here.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Jun 14, 2011 18:41:27 GMT -5
Eh I liked 80's cartoons better. I had to actually wait a week for them to come on. That's why people talk fondly of them. Today's stuff isn't marketed to kids but to twentysomething males. Nothing feels special when you can watch it everyday. Wait a week? A good chunk of 80s cartoons were in syndication and aired daily, while today's stuff you do have to wait a week for a new episode. I love 80s cartoons just as much as everyone else (i love all eras of animation, even the so-called "dark ages" of the 60s and 70s) but lets face facts here. Fine. You got me there. Although the saturday morning ritual is something all kids should have to go through, and today it's not possible. I got nothing against today's cartoons...heck i like some of them. But they ARE being written for 20-30 somethings because that's who are creating them for the most part. They throw some things for the kiddies, but they aren't selling toys now, just dvd's and limited edition busts. Yeah, if you put me back in time to the 80's and I didn't know about the cartoons then, I'd think they were stupid. But it wasn't written for me as an adult, but for me as a kid. So what if it was a toy commercial? I didn't want meaningful stories at age 7 or 8, I wanted Starscream to get his ass kicked by Megatron again. I get a bit touchy about people calling my nostalgic memories crap, call me an asshole.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Jun 14, 2011 18:46:24 GMT -5
Also, not crapping on today's cartoons. If you like them, that's cool. No "us vs them" mentality from me. And now I take my leave of this thread.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jun 14, 2011 18:52:23 GMT -5
Also, not crapping on today's cartoons. If you like them, that's cool. No "us vs them" mentality from me. And now I take my leave of this thread. Beat it, you crotchety old man. We're the youth of a new generation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2011 18:52:41 GMT -5
Yea i i see the 90's as the cartoon golden age.
Ninja Turtles , x-men , spiderman , batman , gargoyles , avengers , beast wars , reboot , doug , hey arnold , power rangers (live action cartoon is how i deem it so it counts so meh lol) , tiny toons , animaniacs , the tic , street sharks , biker mice from mars , dog city , darkwing duck etc.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Jun 14, 2011 18:56:43 GMT -5
Also, not crapping on today's cartoons. If you like them, that's cool. No "us vs them" mentality from me. And now I take my leave of this thread. Beat it, you crotchety old man. We're the youth of a new generation. *shakes stick while drinking Pepsi, the choice of a new generation*
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Post by The Ichi on Jun 14, 2011 19:45:26 GMT -5
Wait a week? A good chunk of 80s cartoons were in syndication and aired daily, while today's stuff you do have to wait a week for a new episode. I love 80s cartoons just as much as everyone else (i love all eras of animation, even the so-called "dark ages" of the 60s and 70s) but lets face facts here. Fine. You got me there. Although the saturday morning ritual is something all kids should have to go through, and today it's not possible. I got nothing against today's cartoons...heck i like some of them. But they ARE being written for 20-30 somethings because that's who are creating them for the most part. They throw some things for the kiddies, but they aren't selling toys now, just dvd's and limited edition busts. Yeah, if you put me back in time to the 80's and I didn't know about the cartoons then, I'd think they were stupid. But it wasn't written for me as an adult, but for me as a kid. So what if it was a toy commercial? I didn't want meaningful stories at age 7 or 8, I wanted Starscream to get his ass kicked by Megatron again. I get a bit touchy about people calling my nostalgic memories crap, call me an asshole. The "No! you don't like something from the 90s/80s! Stop being blinded by nostalgia" mentality annoys me too.
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