Post by HMARK Center on Jul 12, 2011 20:12:22 GMT -5
So this is a pretty popular entry on TV Tropes, meant as the opposite of the "Crowning Moment of Awesome".
It applies to a moment where a character, show, or even entire franchise didn't simply jump the shark in your opinion, but crossed some sort of creative moral event horizon from which there is no coming back. After this moment, many people might even give up entirely on said character/show/franchise, let alone just never viewing them the same way again.
This all being said, reading through some of the entries, especially the ones for South Park (never felt South Park had one of these), The Simpsons, and Family Guy, I got a feeling that a lot of tropers have a weird view on things.
For starters, there's simply entries where it's a matter of not liking a single creative decision that nobody would honestly argue actually killed a show...that's taking things a bit far, one would think.
However, more than that, I found that a lot of the moments referenced were simply due to finding something offensive, even offensive things that were truly funny and in the spirit of the show they happened on.
This made me consider two things:
1. I'm not saying people can't be offended at certain things, but I'm from the "literally ANYTHING can be funny" school of comedy. I'm less concerned with how offensive the subject matter of a joke might be, and much more interested in how well the actual comedy of the joke is handled.
Like, is anybody really surprised that South Park makes a lot of terrorism or terrible disease jokes? It's friggin' South Park, c'mon.
2. I think it corrupts the whole concept behind the entire "Dethroning Moment..." idea.
To me, the trope focuses more on all-around creative decisions and character arcs; simply saying "that joke offended me!" seems loose ground for saying an entire show has become creatively and/or artistically bankrupt.
Bleh, enough chit-chat, what say all of you? And do you have any opinions of good moments like this in certain movies or shows or whatever? Use spoilers when needed.
It applies to a moment where a character, show, or even entire franchise didn't simply jump the shark in your opinion, but crossed some sort of creative moral event horizon from which there is no coming back. After this moment, many people might even give up entirely on said character/show/franchise, let alone just never viewing them the same way again.
This all being said, reading through some of the entries, especially the ones for South Park (never felt South Park had one of these), The Simpsons, and Family Guy, I got a feeling that a lot of tropers have a weird view on things.
For starters, there's simply entries where it's a matter of not liking a single creative decision that nobody would honestly argue actually killed a show...that's taking things a bit far, one would think.
However, more than that, I found that a lot of the moments referenced were simply due to finding something offensive, even offensive things that were truly funny and in the spirit of the show they happened on.
This made me consider two things:
1. I'm not saying people can't be offended at certain things, but I'm from the "literally ANYTHING can be funny" school of comedy. I'm less concerned with how offensive the subject matter of a joke might be, and much more interested in how well the actual comedy of the joke is handled.
Like, is anybody really surprised that South Park makes a lot of terrorism or terrible disease jokes? It's friggin' South Park, c'mon.
2. I think it corrupts the whole concept behind the entire "Dethroning Moment..." idea.
To me, the trope focuses more on all-around creative decisions and character arcs; simply saying "that joke offended me!" seems loose ground for saying an entire show has become creatively and/or artistically bankrupt.
Bleh, enough chit-chat, what say all of you? And do you have any opinions of good moments like this in certain movies or shows or whatever? Use spoilers when needed.
