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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 7, 2012 0:02:37 GMT -5
Oprah has come out, admitted creating a network is her biggest mistake and that she wishes she had never done it. I know Vince hears that laughs because he feels he's bigger than Oprah but I wonder what the people under him think hearing that. Well in all fairness, I feel as if Vince has more of a reason to start his own network than Oprah. Like he has so many hours of footage and a lot of potential programming to create. Oprah had her show and some books. I do agree that he has much more potential programming than Oprah did, how many are going to want to watch mostly old wrestling? WWE 24/7 was a complete failure to the point Time Warner wouldn't even look at it. Even if you put on original shows like NXT, Superstars and the Crusier show, WWE couldn't get the first two over a 1. toward the end and they were on networks with a lot better access than WWEN will have. Plus they are talking adding stuff like COPS, a pawn show and a storage auction show which yeah they draw well but there are also 812 of each. Also, while Oprah didn't have a lot in terms of programming but her name meant a lot more than WWE's does to the mainstream, she had millions of people watching her daily but couldn't get 1/8 of that to watch her channel, even when she was on. I just don't see how WWE throwing up reruns, C level and lower shows, and crap like Legends House would do well. Maybe moving PPVs is the answer but after that novelty wears off, then what?
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Apr 7, 2012 0:12:48 GMT -5
Well in all fairness, I feel as if Vince has more of a reason to start his own network than Oprah. Like he has so many hours of footage and a lot of potential programming to create. Oprah had her show and some books. I do agree that he has much more potential programming than Oprah did, how many are going to want to watch mostly old wrestling? WWE 24/7 was a complete failure to the point Time Warner wouldn't even look at it. Even if you put on original shows like NXT, Superstars and the Crusier show, WWE couldn't get the first two over a 1. toward the end and they were on networks with a lot better access than WWEN will have. Plus they are talking adding stuff like COPS, a pawn show and a storage auction show which yeah they draw well but there are also 812 of each. Also, while Oprah didn't have a lot in terms of programming but her name meant a lot more than WWE's does to the mainstream, she had millions of people watching her daily but couldn't get 1/8 of that to watch her channel, even when she was on. I just don't see how WWE throwing up reruns, C level and lower shows, and crap like Legends House would do well. Maybe moving PPVs is the answer but after that novelty wears off, then what? Diva porn during late night hours?
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Post by dpg on Apr 7, 2012 4:13:50 GMT -5
I am beginning to get confused about this network, WWE spent months bigging it up and talking about it over the internet, they've hired a load of people and signed a load more people onto contracts to appear in shows. Yet they still haven't got a single carrier interested in showing the channel, not one. Now if this was back when they were just starting up the idea or perhaps even well into the process it wouldn't be that much of a problem, but WWE claimed they'd be starting it up by now, have moved the launch date (while denying they ever had one which is just stupid) to much later and still can't get anyone to carry it so far.
WWE is a very corporate company these days, more so than ever before, yet the entire network idea has been run really badly on the launch side. They make a vague date to launch, change it, then deny there ever was one and are still trying to get people interested after putting out a ton of money on it. If they don't get a carrier and the channel has to be junked, I hate to think what the outlay will be.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Apr 7, 2012 9:26:57 GMT -5
Well in all fairness, I feel as if Vince has more of a reason to start his own network than Oprah. Like he has so many hours of footage and a lot of potential programming to create. Oprah had her show and some books. I do agree that he has much more potential programming than Oprah did, how many are going to want to watch mostly old wrestling? WWE 24/7 was a complete failure to the point Time Warner wouldn't even look at it. Even if you put on original shows like NXT, Superstars and the Crusier show, WWE couldn't get the first two over a 1. toward the end and they were on networks with a lot better access than WWEN will have. Plus they are talking adding stuff like COPS, a pawn show and a storage auction show which yeah they draw well but there are also 812 of each. Also, while Oprah didn't have a lot in terms of programming but her name meant a lot more than WWE's does to the mainstream, she had millions of people watching her daily but couldn't get 1/8 of that to watch her channel, even when she was on. I just don't see how WWE throwing up reruns, C level and lower shows, and crap like Legends House would do well. Maybe moving PPVs is the answer but after that novelty wears off, then what? Its because they were showing a product taht the people were not familiar with. If Oprah had kept her show going, or started her own show, giving people what they want and not random cameos then the numbers would be better. It was all new stuff, no classic operah, no operah at all. The only way WWE will be that bad is if they have virtually no wrestling/classic wrestling. THey can add other stuff to augmenet, but as long as the product that people want IE WWF/E family of entertainment people will watch. The Oprah network was a bunch of Oprah-esq shows with a random cameo. Like if WWE only showed...ROH with John Cena dropping by every few eppisodes.
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Post by salz4life on Apr 10, 2012 19:51:43 GMT -5
Oprah has come out, admitted creating a network is her biggest mistake and that she wishes she had never done it. I know Vince hears that laughs because he feels he's bigger than Oprah but I wonder what the people under him think hearing that. I think Vince watched the problems Oprah has had and was smart enough to pull back and delay the launch.
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Post by dpg on Apr 11, 2012 2:17:15 GMT -5
Oprah has come out, admitted creating a network is her biggest mistake and that she wishes she had never done it. I know Vince hears that laughs because he feels he's bigger than Oprah but I wonder what the people under him think hearing that. I think Vince watched the problems Oprah has had and was smart enough to pull back and delay the launch. I think that's had more to do with no-one being willing to carry the network, bit hard to launch something that no-one can watch. Seems to be still the case too and the longer this goes on the more likely it is the idea will fail, god knows how much VKM has spent on it.
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Post by Todd's crazy , Man. on Apr 18, 2012 9:24:24 GMT -5
Weird. Just read the Wikipedia article and it said that the first episode of legend's house aired on Sy Fy on the seventeenth. Now I'm pretty sure that hasn't happened but does anyone know if it's actually been moved to Sy Fy and when it's going to Air if ever?
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Post by andrew8798 on Apr 19, 2012 3:01:53 GMT -5
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Post by dpg on Apr 19, 2012 11:50:52 GMT -5
The launch date is moving further and further back, might end up being a year after they said it would start originally, if it starts at all.
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Post by xCompackx on May 1, 2012 10:49:29 GMT -5
Well in all fairness, I feel as if Vince has more of a reason to start his own network than Oprah. Like he has so many hours of footage and a lot of potential programming to create. Oprah had her show and some books. I do agree that he has much more potential programming than Oprah did, how many are going to want to watch mostly old wrestling? WWE 24/7 was a complete failure to the point Time Warner wouldn't even look at it. Even if you put on original shows like NXT, Superstars and the Crusier show, WWE couldn't get the first two over a 1. toward the end and they were on networks with a lot better access than WWEN will have. Plus they are talking adding stuff like COPS, a pawn show and a storage auction show which yeah they draw well but there are also 812 of each. Also, while Oprah didn't have a lot in terms of programming but her name meant a lot more than WWE's does to the mainstream, she had millions of people watching her daily but couldn't get 1/8 of that to watch her channel, even when she was on. I just don't see how WWE throwing up reruns, C level and lower shows, and crap like Legends House would do well. Maybe moving PPVs is the answer but after that novelty wears off, then what? Wrestling is a pretty niche industry in itself though, so there's at least some hope in the idea that at least the diehards or hardcore wrestling fans will watch old wrestling (Maybe they should limit it to the 90s though). If they're going to go that route, they need to stick with it and keep stuff like Cops or The Man Show off of the network. Maybe they should also make shows for the different companies that they have the libraries to like ECW or WCW. I could see it possibly working then.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2012 15:53:29 GMT -5
If they have any sense they'll launch it exclusively as an online network, much much cheaper, and by offering a non linear service it means they can service much more demographics at any one time, instead of being restricted to every audience member having to watch the same program at the same time
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Post by milesskylighter on May 8, 2012 1:37:18 GMT -5
Weird. Just read the Wikipedia article and it said that the first episode of legend's house aired on Sy Fy on the seventeenth. Now I'm pretty sure that hasn't happened but does anyone know if it's actually been moved to Sy Fy and when it's going to Air if ever? Pretty sure it didn't. They had the retro edition of Smackdown last month with a lot of people we've heard associated with Legends House (Piper, Mean Gene etc.) yet I don't think the show wasn't mentioned once. I had heard (dirtsheets) that SyFy had been offered Legends House, and if they were going to show it the Smackdown was going to used to hype it. As they didn't mention it that suggests SyFy aren't going to show it.
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Post by unc40 on May 25, 2012 20:41:05 GMT -5
So the ref waits until Daniel Bryan has smashed Kane with a chair about 20 times before he decides to intervene.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on May 26, 2012 0:02:38 GMT -5
I don't believe there will be a "WWE Network."
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Post by percymania on May 28, 2012 17:09:06 GMT -5
Oh hey, I remember this idea. What happened exactly? I still yearn for a WWE Network.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2012 21:06:37 GMT -5
Damn, AJ's tiny.
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Post by CH Punk on Jun 1, 2012 23:00:25 GMT -5
What's up with people posting things about Smackdown/Random things in here?
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Post by flatsdomino on Jun 4, 2012 2:00:52 GMT -5
This thread is sadder than the TNA boards.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jun 4, 2012 21:56:49 GMT -5
Seriously, what happened here?
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Post by dpg on Jun 6, 2012 10:44:34 GMT -5
Seriously, what happened here? I don't think anyone knows, including WWE. They've gone very quiet on the entire idea.
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