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Post by Lord Rahl on Jul 23, 2011 16:44:24 GMT -5
I've always wanted to get into comic's, but never really knew where to start. I know graphic novels (least I think) take a multitude of books and put them in one. And I found out my library has them. So whats a good place to start with those.
Dont have too much of a preference on character, though I do like Batman and the X-Men. Oooooh, and whats a good place to start with Star Wars ones?
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jul 23, 2011 16:47:03 GMT -5
Have you read Watchmen? Also highly recommend V for Vendetta
Batman Year One
The Dark Knight Returns
The Long Halloween
all must reads
Actually, those are about all the graphic novels I HAVE read, aside from Ghost World and Scott Pilgrim vol 1. (also good)
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Post by Lord Rahl on Jul 23, 2011 16:49:58 GMT -5
LOVED Watchmen. Kinda wish they'd have left the ending alone for the movie, but I understand why they didnt.
If V is anything like the movie, I'll pass. Not horrible, but just kinda meh.
I've been wanting to read Wanted. Just dont know if I wanna drop $20 on it.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Jul 23, 2011 16:53:37 GMT -5
For real graphic novels, I can suggest Will Eisner's A Contract with God, and The Tenement and Other Stories.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2011 17:25:33 GMT -5
The Sandman series is pretty much my favorite.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 23, 2011 17:31:33 GMT -5
Since you like Batman, I HIGHLY suggest The Killing Joke, it is a stand alone story(though its events did have an effect on Barbara Gordan from that point until the DC reboot coming in September, and even then its events are still part of her origin story in the reboot). It actually makes the Joker a tragic character.
As for another graphic novel I can never suggest highly enough, Kingdom Come. Seriously, whether you like DC or Marvel, I think Kingdom Come is required reading for any comic book fan.
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Post by Cela on Jul 23, 2011 17:31:45 GMT -5
Infinite Crisis
Y the Last Man
The early Superman/Batman series.
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Post by Johnny Truant on Jul 23, 2011 17:38:45 GMT -5
The Walking Dead is amazing.
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Post by Fauxberg on Jul 23, 2011 17:41:12 GMT -5
I'd say Marvel Civil War, but that might not be for new fans.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jul 23, 2011 17:43:32 GMT -5
LOVED Watchmen. Kinda wish they'd have left the ending alone for the movie, but I understand why they didnt. If V is anything like the movie, I'll pass. Not horrible, but just kinda meh. I've been wanting to read Wanted. Just dont know if I wanna drop $20 on it. V is much better than the movie. MUCH better. |
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Post by Lord Rahl on Jul 23, 2011 17:44:38 GMT -5
I'd say Marvel Civil War, but that might not be for new fans. Just out of curiosity, what makes you say that. The premise of that story seems kinda cool. Debated on checking that out. |
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Post by Fauxberg on Jul 23, 2011 17:58:39 GMT -5
I'd say Marvel Civil War, but that might not be for new fans. Just out of curiosity, what makes you say that. The premise of that story seems kinda cool. Debated on checking that out. The story is that there's a dumbass group of teenage super-heroes called "The Warriors" that have a reality show. During a taping, a villian bombs a entire city, causing mass destruction & tragedy. The government decides to step in with a bill forcing heroes to reveal their identities & register for the government. Iron Man's all for it, Captain America's dead-set against it. Soon, every hero has to decide if their for the bill or against it, thus creating "Civil War". I consider it one of the best comics of the past decade. |
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Post by JDviant on Jul 23, 2011 18:03:15 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, what makes you say that. The premise of that story seems kinda cool. Debated on checking that out. PREMISE is good, but execution is bad. First the whole point of the "choosing sides" campaign was presented as though it was going to be very morally ambiguous, and no one side was "right". Then instead they really really tried to turned Iron Man into a villain it seemed. Characters starting acting WAY out of character. Reed Richards is a good point. He was pro-registration, which of course makes no sense if you're a a fan of Marvel comics since Reed Richards has always been very much anti-registration, as demonstrated when he testified to congress it was wrong (Fantastic Four 334-336). |
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Post by JDviant on Jul 23, 2011 18:13:38 GMT -5
As for recs:
X-Men: Modern readership seems slip over the Grant Morrison run. Some consider it groundbreaking and revolutionary, some consider it a disservice and a slap in the face to longtime readers. Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men run is good enough to start with, and if you wont have the same problems with it I did. Classic-wise, you could start at Essential X-Men 1, which will pretty much always be the definitive take on the team with Claremont/Cockrum, then John Byrne.
Batman: Recent books are a strange place to start, since Bruce may or may not be Batman depending what you pick up. New readers seem to enjoy Hush and Long Halloween, but if you're a fan of good mysteries you may be letdown somewhat as Loeb has a tendency to finish weak. Lovely art in each, and Hush is by Jim Lee which has a more 'superhero' look to it. Older works, specifically from the title Legends of the Dark Knight like Venom, Gothic, or Faces are always excellent. It was the best bat-book of the 90's.
Star Wars: the 'Long Time Ago' omnibus collection has the original trilogy and Marvel work, and after that it just depends on what you want since almost every flavor of SW has been put in trade. Maybe the Dark Empire Trilogy hc from Darkhorse for extended post RotJ stuff.
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Post by Lord Rahl on Jul 23, 2011 18:36:15 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, what makes you say that. The premise of that story seems kinda cool. Debated on checking that out. The story is that there's a dumbass group of teenage super-heroes called "The Warriors" that have a reality show. During a taping, a villian bombs a entire city, causing mass destruction & tragedy. The government decides to step in with a bill forcing heroes to reveal their identities & register for the government. Iron Man's all for it, Captain America's dead-set against it. Soon, every hero has to decide if their for the bill or against it, thus creating "Civil War". I consider it one of the best comics of the past decade. Cool, but why do you say its not for new fans? |
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Post by jobber2thestars on Jul 23, 2011 19:01:58 GMT -5
Take a look at someof the DC Elseworld titles. They are a fun look at alternate versions of your favorite characters. I highly recomend Superman: Red Son.
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Post by JDviant on Jul 23, 2011 19:16:39 GMT -5
Cool, but why do you say its not for new fans? Possible reasons: - As a crossover many of the threads/motivations are left ignored by the main storyline and continue in other books - Lack of familiarity with such a large cast means there will be many people popping in and out that you have no idea about - The premise is largely centered on character relationships, which again you wont be as versed in I don't know of thats what he was thinking of, but off the top of my head it could be |
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Post by FinalGwen on Jul 23, 2011 19:22:05 GMT -5
The Sandman series is pretty much my favorite. Have to concur here. Neil Gaiman's a fantastic writer even at his worst, and The Sandman is probably his best work. |
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Post by Alexander The So-so on Jul 23, 2011 19:45:44 GMT -5
Besides the Batman stories already mentioned here, if you want to go old-school, I'd suggest picking up some of the volumes of Batman Chronicles, the TPB reprints of the earliest issues of Detective Comics and Batman. Especially vol. 1. It's really cool to see how Batman started way back in 1939. And while the issues themselves may be dated in a lot of ways, they still hold up today in many others.
Another great storyline would be No Man's Land. It's set in Gotham City after a huge earthquake has utterly destroyed the entire town, and where the government has decided to seal the city off and left the survivors to rot. Meanwhile, all the villains have escaped and have carved the city up among themselves. After failing to campaign for government aide in Washington as Bruce Wayne, Batman returns to finally bring order to the city. Totally epic.
And Batman has a lot of great Elseworlds stories too, if you're interested. My favorite is probably Gotham By Gaslight, in which Batman is reimagined in a Victorian setting.
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Post by JDviant on Jul 23, 2011 19:47:44 GMT -5
Another great storyline would be No Man's Land. It's set in Gotham City after a huge earthquake has utterly destroyed the entire town, and where the government has decided to seal the city off and left the survivors to rot. Meanwhile, all the villains have escaped and have carved the city up among themselves. After failing to campaign for government aide in Washington as Bruce Wayne, Batman returns to finally bring order to the city. Totally epic. NML has several volumes that are out of print and going for incredibly inflated prices, but if you wait its being re-released in two large collections. |
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