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Post by humanoid on Feb 18, 2011 17:16:28 GMT -5
Based on personal experience, MMA fans can be broken down into several groups. BJJ Nerd: Replaces the original Karate Kids. He has taken 3 free classes of Jiu Jitsu and now feels that he knows more about MMA than you, and as a result, thinks that youre an uneducated gorilla for not liking fights that just involve stalling and nothing else because you arent intelligent enough to appreciate the intricacies of the ground game. Actively cheers against strikers saying that strikers are for the dumber fans who like brawling. TUF Noob: Named after the new wave of fans that the original The Ultimate Fighter series, these are the types that buy into every absurdly designed Affliction-knock off, as well as having TapouT merchandise coming out their ass. They think that Jiu Jitsu is for gays, anyone who likes Brock Lesnar is a WWE fan and therefore should go back to watching "that fake pussy crap", and their favourite fighter is Anderson Silva because Dana White says he is the best in the world. The BJ Penn Fan: BJ Penn has never lost a fight without a valid reason. He was screwed in the first Edgar fight, he was depressed and unmotivated in the rematch and would beat Edgar in a third math, GSP greased the 2nd time, BJ got screwed by the judges in the first GSP match, and he had a broken rib in the 2nd Matt Hughes fight. And he is a top ten Welterweight with a record of 2-3 at Welterweight. The Historian: Everything was better in PRIDE. MMA has passed its golden age. Heavyweights are garbage compared to 2004. I was at UFC 1, front and center, and I caught one of Teila Tuli's teeth. Ive been following MMA since Gracie fought Kimura. The Bandwagoner. Pre-fight: Fighter X is totally overrated. Hasnt fought anyone at all. How could anyone like this guy? Post fight: Fighter X is the best ever!!! He will walk all over the champion!!!! Pretty good, although I hope you aren't forgetting the fact that there are smart, rational MMA fans too. It's not just wrestling and MMA, there are these types of "mine is the only important viewpoint" fans when it comes to just about anything from sports to music to movies. Basically any topic where the people who are interested in it are passionate enough to spend their time online fighting with other people about it... |
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Post by Drink Up Me Cider on Feb 18, 2011 17:28:54 GMT -5
I find a lot of 'fans' have an issue if you said a fight sucked or a card sucked, like you can not have an opinion if the UFC, Strikeforce or in the past, Pride, put on a awful card with terrible match ups.
In that regard it is a lot like wrestling, if you say a PPV sucked from a company, you'll always get stick from some wise guy.
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Post by humanoid on Feb 18, 2011 18:11:59 GMT -5
I find a lot of 'fans' have an issue if you said a fight sucked or a card sucked, like you can not have an opinion if the UFC, Strikeforce or in the past, Pride, put on a awful card with terrible match ups. In that regard it is a lot like wrestling, if you say a PPV sucked from a company, you'll always get stick from some wise guy. And like wrestling, no matter how awesome a card is, there will always be people bitching about it and saying it sucks... It goes both ways lol |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 18, 2011 18:17:09 GMT -5
I've heard it said that if you call the Forrest Griffin vs. Stephan Bonner fight your "favorite" people will almost unanimously look down their nose at you as either a bandwagon fan, or someone who doesn't know a good fight when they see it. How is that even possible? That is just ridiculous. That fight was one of the best I've ever seen in UFC. It was better than any of Brock Lesnar's fights. Agreed. I prefer Guida vs. Griffin, personally, as my best ever, but that's just because I'm a massive Clay Guida mark. The general vibe I get off the critics of the Griffin vs. Bonner match is that it was a massive slugfest, and therefore fans of it are stupid for not liking a "more technical" masterpiece. |
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Post by molson5 on Feb 18, 2011 19:59:08 GMT -5
Same. The worst of the IWC will act like they know it all, disrespect the talent, think they know more than the promoters, and never be happy no matter what. The worst of the MMA online community or keyboard warriors as they say are the just as bad. They'll scrutinize and criticize every aspect of the show, they "lose respect" for fighters, credit never goes to the winner of the fight, only discredit to the loser. Every fighter is only as good as their last fight. They also act like they know more than the promoters as well. I'm a much bigger MMA fan than i am a wrestling fan but the disrespect towards those who participate in the sport is worse on most major MMA forums than i see on most wrestling forums i go on. Sherdog vs. this place? This place is better for discussion of EITHER sport. AMEN. Though maybe it can get a little negative for my tastes (on pro wrestling especially), this is an amazingly fun, appreciate board that seems to love the smallest, most random things about both sports. So much better than anyplace else I've visited on the the net, and of course, a billion times further than the youtube comments section (which attracts the dumbest people on the face of the earth.) |
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Post by rawthentic on Feb 18, 2011 20:59:51 GMT -5
Based on personal experience, MMA fans can be broken down into several groups. BJJ Nerd: Replaces the original Karate Kids. He has taken 3 free classes of Jiu Jitsu and now feels that he knows more about MMA than you, and as a result, thinks that youre an uneducated gorilla for not liking fights that just involve stalling and nothing else because you arent intelligent enough to appreciate the intricacies of the ground game. Actively cheers against strikers saying that strikers are for the dumber fans who like brawling. TUF Noob: Named after the new wave of fans that the original The Ultimate Fighter series, these are the types that buy into every absurdly designed Affliction-knock off, as well as having TapouT merchandise coming out their ass. They think that Jiu Jitsu is for gays, anyone who likes Brock Lesnar is a WWE fan and therefore should go back to watching "that fake pussy crap", and their favourite fighter is Anderson Silva because Dana White says he is the best in the world. The BJ Penn Fan: BJ Penn has never lost a fight without a valid reason. He was screwed in the first Edgar fight, he was depressed and unmotivated in the rematch and would beat Edgar in a third math, GSP greased the 2nd time, BJ got screwed by the judges in the first GSP match, and he had a broken rib in the 2nd Matt Hughes fight. And he is a top ten Welterweight with a record of 2-3 at Welterweight. The Historian: Everything was better in PRIDE. MMA has passed its golden age. Heavyweights are garbage compared to 2004. I was at UFC 1, front and center, and I caught one of Teila Tuli's teeth. Ive been following MMA since Gracie fought Kimura. The Bandwagoner. Pre-fight: Fighter X is totally overrated. Hasnt fought anyone at all. How could anyone like this guy? Post fight: Fighter X is the best ever!!! He will walk all over the champion!!!! Great list...but BJ Penn was hosed in the first fight with Edgar. Frankie dominated the second fight but i don't see how he won that first fight. You're right about every other example though. Machida is the only legit loss to most BJ fans and thats the one fight where BJ really does have an excuse. but again, great list. It's so true. |
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Post by Drink Up Me Cider on Feb 20, 2011 17:32:41 GMT -5
I find a lot of 'fans' have an issue if you said a fight sucked or a card sucked, like you can not have an opinion if the UFC, Strikeforce or in the past, Pride, put on a awful card with terrible match ups. In that regard it is a lot like wrestling, if you say a PPV sucked from a company, you'll always get stick from some wise guy. And like wrestling, no matter how awesome a card is, there will always be people bitching about it and saying it sucks... It goes both ways lol Yea I should of said it can go both ways, my bad. I think it's different with an actual sporting event though. A lot of the time a bad card is to do with the agents, management, presidents of the company putting together a fight. For example you don't get many people saying much about a quick finish in an MMA match, regardless of who is your personal favorite. A three, five round decision on the other hand... When I say it is similar to professional wrestling is they are making matches, it is not like there is a league or division. UFC, Pride, Strikeforce, Bellator. They make their own matches and if the fight is dull or one sided than that is at least 1/4 their own fault in my opinion. |
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Post by Tiger Maskooo on Feb 20, 2011 17:46:25 GMT -5
I remember one mma forum that basically if you disagreed with them theyd sometimes challenge people to in real life throwdowns and if you didnt show up you were a coward.
So,theyre kinda worse. I mean,sure we over anaylze and get rightously indignant over insignifcant things but...we're not challenging each other to fights over it.
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Post by Drink Up Me Cider on Feb 20, 2011 18:12:21 GMT -5
I remember one mma forum that basically if you disagreed with them theyd sometimes challenge people to in real life throwdowns and if you didnt show up you were a coward. So,theyre kinda worse. I mean,sure we over anaylze and get rightously indignant over insignifcant things but...we're not challenging each other to fights over it. Oh gawd, the keyboard warriors are the worst.  |
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Feb 20, 2011 18:40:54 GMT -5
Based on personal experience, MMA fans can be broken down into several groups. BJJ Nerd: Replaces the original Karate Kids. He has taken 3 free classes of Jiu Jitsu and now feels that he knows more about MMA than you, and as a result, thinks that youre an uneducated gorilla for not liking fights that just involve stalling and nothing else because you arent intelligent enough to appreciate the intricacies of the ground game. Actively cheers against strikers saying that strikers are for the dumber fans who like brawling. TUF Noob: Named after the new wave of fans that the original The Ultimate Fighter series, these are the types that buy into every absurdly designed Affliction-knock off, as well as having TapouT merchandise coming out their ass. They think that Jiu Jitsu is for gays, anyone who likes Brock Lesnar is a WWE fan and therefore should go back to watching "that fake pussy crap", and their favourite fighter is Anderson Silva because Dana White says he is the best in the world. The BJ Penn Fan: BJ Penn has never lost a fight without a valid reason. He was screwed in the first Edgar fight, he was depressed and unmotivated in the rematch and would beat Edgar in a third math, GSP greased the 2nd time, BJ got screwed by the judges in the first GSP match, and he had a broken rib in the 2nd Matt Hughes fight. And he is a top ten Welterweight with a record of 2-3 at Welterweight. The Historian: Everything was better in PRIDE. MMA has passed its golden age. Heavyweights are garbage compared to 2004. I was at UFC 1, front and center, and I caught one of Teila Tuli's teeth. Ive been following MMA since Gracie fought Kimura. The Bandwagoner. Pre-fight: Fighter X is totally overrated. Hasnt fought anyone at all. How could anyone like this guy? Post fight: Fighter X is the best ever!!! He will walk all over the champion!!!! Pretty good, although I hope you aren't forgetting the fact that there are smart, rational MMA fans too. I am more of an MMA fan than pro wrestling, and I absolutely agree with you, but finding decent MMA discussion on MMA forums is HARD. |
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Post by piledriver on Feb 21, 2011 4:07:57 GMT -5
NUTHUGGER
That's all that needs to be said. Anybody who uses that word is a douche bag. No exceptions. It was created by these keyboard warriors and tapout d-bags...Dana White even used it talking about Fedor a few weeks ago, so you know its a douchey term.
I'm a fan of MMA, but MMA fans are indeed the worst. I mention the forum name, but I had to quit going to a certain popular MMA site because of how terrible the fans are.
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Post by M. Dirrty on Feb 21, 2011 6:01:07 GMT -5
After watching for sooo long, and practicing martial arts, nothing suprises me anymore in MMA... kinda of like already seeing it all. Like pro wrestling.
I dont look down at any fans, because it is an entertaining sport. I do however have a habit of sitting quietly listening to those around and trolling for the most part. they always think im some casual fan, until i start whipping out unbiased FACTS.
I think it's funny when MMA fanboys get stumped when I mention how wrestlers have much stronger job stability due to it not being a legit competative sport, and how when Batista said every night he was a couple of inches away from breaking his neck, and now he's not worried about taking a few punches.
My personal opinion on Griffin vs. Bonner has always been that it was an entertaining one dimentional fight with sloppy boxing, with very poor cut treatment from 2 fighters with no knockout power. Entertaining and great for UFC first timers and new fans.
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Post by Rorschach on Feb 21, 2011 14:11:35 GMT -5
Now I have a handy name for all the people I was talking about earlier: TUF Noobs.
Nice. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2011 22:20:05 GMT -5
The other problem I have with MMA fans is the tough guy image people have. Wear the shirts, talk about your wrestling days in high school and rag on people who just don't get it? f*** YOU GUYS! It's assclowns like you who want to try to make the sport more elitist that kill it at the casual level. I feel the need to address this. I wrestled for 8 years in school, in the same division, at the same time as Koscheck(he was 2 years younger than me, I believe), went to the state championships on 3 occasions, got into more actual fights than I would have liked to, and own two Tapout hats and two t shirts. That said, I'm pretty sure the only person to ever fight in the UFC that I could take is Mustapha Al Turk(and I'm only joking about that). Seriously, though internet MMA fans really annoy the crap out of me, for the reasons mentioned above. And I refuse to ever go to a sports bar to watch a pay per view again because the drunk, loud guys who've never actually watched MMA annoy me as much, if not more(it's no funnier the 20th time you yell "punch 'im in the balls!", or "body slam 'im!" than it is the 1st). However, I work with quite a few hardcore MMA fans, and we always seem to have really cool discussions before and after fights in the break room. Like any group of people, the loudest, most idiotic in the crowd make the intelligent, reasonable people embarrased to be there. As for the detractors of the Griffin vs Bonnar fight: I feel that it's not the most technical, nor the most well-rounded MMA fight, and not at all my favorite. But it is damn entertaining, and it is possible that, without it, the UFC, and as a result MMA would still be a small, niche sport with a cult fanbase(which many of the more snobbish MMA fans would prefer). The people that hate on strikers and slugfests have something of a point, but only in response to the less knowledgeable fans that boo a fight that goes to the ground, or against the cage(fortunately, the booing happens less and less...with some exceptions). If fans ONLY want to see people stand in the middle of the ring and bang, then MMA isn't the sport they need to watch. That sport is called kickboxing. Personally, I love a good slugfest, as much as the next guy, and Jung vs Garcia was probably my favorite fight of last year. But I also love a good, technical ground fight. I think I had a point here, but I lost it. Maybe I'll come back to it. |
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Post by humanoid on Feb 22, 2011 11:38:26 GMT -5
The other problem I have with MMA fans is the tough guy image people have. Wear the shirts, talk about your wrestling days in high school and rag on people who just don't get it? f*** YOU GUYS! It's assclowns like you who want to try to make the sport more elitist that kill it at the casual level. I feel the need to address this. I wrestled for 8 years in school, in the same division, at the same time as Koscheck(he was 2 years younger than me, I believe), went to the state championships on 3 occasions, got into more actual fights than I would have liked to, and own two Tapout hats and two t shirts. That said, I'm pretty sure the only person to ever fight in the UFC that I could take is Mustapha Al Turk(and I'm only joking about that). Seriously, though internet MMA fans really annoy the crap out of me, for the reasons mentioned above. And I refuse to ever go to a sports bar to watch a pay per view again because the drunk, loud guys who've never actually watched MMA annoy me as much, if not more(it's no funnier the 20th time you yell "punch 'im in the balls!", or "body slam 'im!" than it is the 1st). However, I work with quite a few hardcore MMA fans, and we always seem to have really cool discussions before and after fights in the break room. Like any group of people, the loudest, most idiotic in the crowd make the intelligent, reasonable people embarrased to be there. As for the detractors of the Griffin vs Bonnar fight: I feel that it's not the most technical, nor the most well-rounded MMA fight, and not at all my favorite. But it is damn entertaining, and it is possible that, without it, the UFC, and as a result MMA would still be a small, niche sport with a cult fanbase(which many of the more snobbish MMA fans would prefer). The people that hate on strikers and slugfests have something of a point, but only in response to the less knowledgeable fans that boo a fight that goes to the ground, or against the cage(fortunately, the booing happens less and less...with some exceptions). If fans ONLY want to see people stand in the middle of the ring and bang, then MMA isn't the sport they need to watch. That sport is called kickboxing. Personally, I love a good slugfest, as much as the next guy, and Jung vs Garcia was probably my favorite fight of last year. But I also love a good, technical ground fight. I think I had a point here, but I lost it. Maybe I'll come back to it. Excellent post sir. |
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Post by Drink Up Me Cider on Feb 22, 2011 11:47:41 GMT -5
Luckily I only ever watch MMA with either my brother or father and they are very knowledgeable. I would dread the day being in a bar/pub with a bunch of JUST BLEED fans.
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