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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 26, 2011 21:44:21 GMT -5
I had a thought today, remembering an old PWI article. In the article, they took all the WWE champions up to that point, averaged together their height and weight, to determine who, physically, on the current roster was the perfect champion. No thought given to charisma or drawing power, just the purely physical. Their result came out as Jerry Saggs. I tried the experiment a few years ago, around 2005, and I got Tyson Tomko. I wonder if any intrepid individual would be willing to do this experiment for the modern list. From Buddy Rogers all the way to our current champions.
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 26, 2011 21:48:36 GMT -5
Is this only for the WWE Championship?
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 26, 2011 21:51:51 GMT -5
Is this only for the WWE Championship? I'm not sure. I guess that would be up to your discretion. |
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 26, 2011 21:57:46 GMT -5
I once made a list of every single championship holder in WWE history and it took forever, but doing it for one title probably wouldn't be that bad.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 26, 2011 22:05:11 GMT -5
I once made a list of every single championship holder in WWE history and it took forever, but doing it for one title probably wouldn't be that bad. Then yeah, let's just go with the one with the deeper lineage. |
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Post by thegreatnodnarb on Feb 26, 2011 22:34:15 GMT -5
My top 3 results were Skip Sheffield, Chris Masters, and Husky Harris.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 26, 2011 22:42:55 GMT -5
My top 3 results were Skip Sheffield, Chris Masters, and Husky Harris. Wacky, but it sounds about right. I would have thought that Khali, Big Show, and Andre would f*** up the curve, height wise at least, but hey, good to see they didn't. |
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Post by mrjl on Feb 26, 2011 23:12:37 GMT -5
My top 3 results were Skip Sheffield, Chris Masters, and Husky Harris. Wacky, but it sounds about right. I would have thought that Khali, Big Show, and Andre would f*** up the curve, height wise at least, but hey, good to see they didn't. the addition of Rey probably helped with that. |
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Post by Dub H on Feb 26, 2011 23:13:28 GMT -5
My top 3 results were Skip Sheffield, Chris Masters, and Husky Harris. sounds good for me. Now make they win the title |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 26, 2011 23:13:43 GMT -5
Wacky, but it sounds about right. I would have thought that Khali, Big Show, and Andre would f*** up the curve, height wise at least, but hey, good to see they didn't. the addition of Rey probably helped with that. Okay, yeah, that actually makes sense. He'd be enough to offset one of them, at the very least. |
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 26, 2011 23:51:59 GMT -5
Alright, so I did the data for all the WWE champions and WHC champions to see whom among them fit average. The average height was about 6.25 feet, and the average weight was 273 pounds. That made the average WWE Champion pretty close to Superstar Billy Graham, with the Ultimate Warrior and Brock Lesnar behind. There are enough people in that category to help even out the outliers (f.ex, Rey Mysterio and Great Khali for the height, and Rey Mysterio and Yokozuna for the weight). However, the larger size of guys past tended to skew the results against any smaller wrestlers. When I did current superstars, the average height was about 6.17 feet and the average weight was around 251 pounds (which is actually Alex Riley on the nose, with Tyler Reks a pound heavier). There wasn't any one superstar who was right on the money for the WWE champions of the past, but looking it over, I think there are two that come close. They are...  Welshtista himself, Mason Ryan (6.5, 272 pounds) and  Our new King of the Ring, Sheamus (also at 6.5, 272 pounds). Of course, there is some leeway. Wade Barrett's close to the height, but about 13 pounds too light. Skip Sheffield's about that height, but 10 pounds too heavy. My personal guess was Jack Swagger, but he was also 10 pounds heavy (and a few inches taller). Here's my data below, in case anyone's interested. The Champions Wrestler Height (inches) Weight (lbs) The Great Khali 85 420 The Big Show 84 485 Kane 84 323 Andre the Giant 84 500 Shawn Michaels 73 225 Diesel 83 317 The Undertaker 82.5 299 Sycho Sid 81 317 Hulk Hogan 79 302 Sheamus 78 272 John "Bradshaw" Layfield 78 290 Jack Swagger 78 263 Batista 78 290 Stan Stasiak 77 272 Sgt. Slaughter 77 310 Yokozuna 76 589 Triple H 76 255 The Rock 76 225 Randy Orton 76 245 Edge 76 240 Billy Graham 76 275 King Booker 75 250 Brock Lesnar 75 265 Goldberg 74.5 266 The Ultimate Warrior 74 280 Steve Austin 74 252 Randy Savage 74 237 Mr McMahon 74 220 Mankind 74 287 John Cena 74 250 Jeff Hardy 74 215 Buddy Rogers 74 227 Antonio Inoki 74 220 The Miz 73 231 Ric Flair 73 243 CM Punk 73 222 Bob Backlund 73 234 The Iron Sheik 72 263 Rob Van Dam 72 237 Kurt Angle 72 240 Dolph Ziggler 72 223 Chris Jericho 72 226 Bret Hart 72 234 Chris Benoit 71 220 Bruno Sammartino 71 265 Pedro Morales 70 235 Ivan Koloff 70 248 Eddie Guerrero 68 228 Rey Mysterio 66 178 The Current Roster Wrestler Height(in) Weight (lbs) The Big Show 84 485 The Great Khali 85 420 Mark Henry 73 392 Kane 84 323 Ezekiel Jackson 76 309 Husky Harris 74 306 Vladimir Kozlov 80 302 The Undertaker 82.5 299 Skip Sheffield 74 283 Mason Ryan 78 272 Sheamus 78 272 Chris Masters 76 265 Jack Swagger 78 263 Alberto Del Rio 77 263 Wade Barrett 75 260 Drew McIntyre 75 256 Michael Tarver 74 256 Tyler Reks 75 252 Alex Riley 74 251 David Hart Smith 77 250 David Otunga 72 250 Randy Orton 76 245 Darren Young 73 242 Edge 76 240 Jimmy Uso 74 240 William Regal 74 240 John Cena 73 240 Goldust 78 238 Ted Dibiase 75 235 Jey Uso 74 235 Heath Slater 76 232 Michael McGillicutty 75 232 The Miz 73 231 JTG 73 230 Trent Barreta 73 230 Christian 74 227 Santino Marella 70 227 Triple H 76 255 John Morrison 73 223 Cody Rhodes 73 223 Justin Gabriel 73 223 CM Punk 73 222 Curt Hawkins 73 221 Kofi Kingston 73 221 Yoshi Tatsu 73 220 Primo Colon 70 218 Chavo Guerrero 69 215 Zack Ryder 73 214 Tyson Kidd 69 199 Daniel Bryan 70 192 Evan Bourne 69 183 Rey Mysterio 66 178 Hornswoggle 52 129 |
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Post by Johnny Truant on Feb 27, 2011 0:09:51 GMT -5
Alright, so I did the data for all the WWE champions and WHC champions to see whom among them fit average. The average height was about 6.25 feet, and the average weight was 273 pounds. That made the average WWE Champion pretty close to Superstar Billy Graham, with the Ultimate Warrior and Brock Lesnar behind. There are enough people in that category to help even out the outliers (f.ex, Rey Mysterio and Great Khali for the height, and Rey Mysterio and Yokozuna for the weight). However, the larger size of guys past tended to skew the results against any smaller wrestlers. When I did current superstars, the average height was about 6.17 feet and the average weight was around 251 pounds (which is actually Alex Riley on the nose, with Tyler Reks a pound heavier). There wasn't any one superstar who was right on the money for the WWE champions of the past, but looking it over, I think there are two that come close. They are... Welshtista himself, Mason Ryan (6.5, 272 pounds) and Our new King of the Ring, Sheamus (also at 6.5, 272 pounds). Of course, there is some leeway. Wade Barrett's close to the height, but about 13 pounds too light. Skip Sheffield's about that height, but 10 pounds too heavy. My personal guess was Jack Swagger, but he was also 10 pounds heavy (and a few inches taller). Here's my data below, in case anyone's interested. The Champions Wrestler Height (inches) Weight (lbs) The Great Khali 85 420 The Big Show 84 485 Kane 84 323 Andre the Giant 84 500 Shawn Michaels 83 225 Diesel 83 317 The Undertaker 82.5 299 Sycho Sid 81 317 Hulk Hogan 79 302 Sheamus 78 272 John "Bradshaw" Layfield 78 290 Jack Swagger 78 263 Batista 78 290 Stan Stasiak 77 272 Sgt. Slaughter 77 310 Yokozuna 76 589 Triple H 76 225 The Rock 76 225 Randy Orton 76 245 Edge 76 240 Billy Graham 76 275 King Booker 75 250 Brock Lesnar 75 265 Goldberg 74.5 266 The Ultimate Warrior 74 280 Steve Austin 74 252 Randy Savage 74 237 Mr McMahon 74 220 Mankind 74 287 John Cena 74 250 Jeff Hardy 74 215 Buddy Rogers 74 227 Antonio Inoki 74 220 The Miz 73 231 Ric Flair 73 243 CM Punk 73 222 Bob Backlund 73 234 The Iron Sheik 72 263 Rob Van Dam 72 237 Kurt Angle 72 240 Dolph Ziggler 72 223 Chris Jericho 72 226 Bret Hart 72 234 Chris Benoit 71 220 Bruno Sammartino 71 265 Pedro Morales 70 235 Ivan Koloff 70 248 Eddie Guerrero 68 228 Rey Mysterio 66 178 The Current Roster Wrestler Height(in) Weight (lbs) The Big Show 84 485 The Great Khali 85 420 Mark Henry 73 392 Kane 84 323 Ezekiel Jackson 76 309 Husky Harris 74 306 Vladimir Kozlov 80 302 The Undertaker 82.5 299 Skip Sheffield 74 283 Mason Ryan 78 272 Sheamus 78 272 Chris Masters 76 265 Jack Swagger 78 263 Alberto Del Rio 77 263 Wade Barrett 75 260 Drew McIntyre 75 256 Michael Tarver 74 256 Tyler Reks 75 252 Alex Riley 74 251 David Hart Smith 77 250 David Otunga 72 250 Randy Orton 76 245 Darren Young 73 242 Edge 76 240 Jimmy Uso 74 240 William Regal 74 240 John Cena 73 240 Goldust 78 238 Ted Dibiase 75 235 Jey Uso 74 235 Heath Slater 76 232 Michael McGillicutty 75 232 The Miz 73 231 JTG 73 230 Trent Barreta 73 230 Christian 76 227 Santino Marella 70 227 Triple H 76 225 John Morrison 73 223 Cody Rhodes 73 223 Justin Gabriel 73 223 CM Punk 73 222 Curt Hawkins 73 221 Kofi Kingston 73 221 Yoshi Tatsu 73 220 Primo Colon 70 218 Chavo Guerrero 69 215 Zack Ryder 73 214 Tyson Kidd 69 199 Daniel Bryan 70 192 Evan Bourne 69 183 Rey Mysterio 66 178 Hornswoggle 52 129 I knew there was a reason I liked Sheamus! |
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 27, 2011 0:24:23 GMT -5
I knew there was a reason I liked Sheamus! Other than the fact that his skin deflects harmful UV rays? |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 27, 2011 0:42:52 GMT -5
I'm currently digging around through FCW to see if there are any diamonds in the rough that match this, but, if the Jerry Saggs thing was dead on, if I'm right, then they scaled up a bit in height, while weight remained basically the same, give or take.
EDIT: Believe it or not, the closest developmental talent to those stats is none other than "Make it a win" Titus O'Neill. Big E. Langston is the other closest in weight, but is two pounds over, and 5" too short.
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 27, 2011 0:47:19 GMT -5
Personally, I think the weight is skewed heavy on the champions list, because while they do love their big men, there are a significant number of people who are well below the average champion weight. There are just some people who are way over that weight.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Feb 27, 2011 1:39:49 GMT -5
This is surprisingly insightful, since the "average" seems to be very close to those guys built up into main eventers in a very short time and groomed to be top stars from day one (Warrior, Lesnar), and the modern equivalents on the roster (Masters, Sheffield, Ryan, even [freaky hair/skin aside] Sheamus) seem to be guys who look like the archetypal stereotype of the big musclebound guy who Vince likes, and were all either pushed strongly early on or who are being protected by the booking and kept looking good enough that they could potentially be pushed in the near future.
Husky's a bit of an anomaly, though.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 27, 2011 3:49:52 GMT -5
This is surprisingly insightful, since the "average" seems to be very close to those guys built up into main eventers in a very short time and groomed to be top stars from day one (Warrior, Lesnar), and the modern equivalents on the roster (Masters, Sheffield, Ryan, even [freaky hair/skin aside] Sheamus) seem to be guys who look like the archetypal stereotype of the big musclebound guy who Vince likes, and were all either pushed strongly early on or who are being protected by the booking and kept looking good enough that they could potentially be pushed in the near future. Husky's a bit of an anomaly, though. Well, every grouping's gonna have it's outliers. |
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Post by Alex Shelley on Feb 27, 2011 4:16:53 GMT -5
I'd like to see this done using the median or mode as opposed to the mean... Ohhh God I'm getting the calculator out... I'll be back in a bit...
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 27, 2011 4:36:52 GMT -5
I'd like to see this done using the median or mode as opposed to the mean... Ohhh God I'm getting the calculator out... I'll be back in a bit... See, now you've gotten me curious. |
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Post by Alex Shelley on Feb 27, 2011 4:42:05 GMT -5
hawk405359, I found a typographical error! You listed HBK as 83 inches instead of 73. So that threw your data off a bit.
For the heights, the mean is 75.26 inches with a standard deviation of 4.18 inches. Median is 74 inches.
For weights, the mean is 273.06 with a standard deviation of 75.92. Median is 250.
I'm gonna keep playing with the data to see if Yokozuna counts as an outlier and if we can toss him out when considering weight. But first I need water.
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