DM91
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Post by DM91 on Apr 23, 2006 9:20:48 GMT -5
THIS is an example of why John Cena got over and, ultimatly, became champ. Why WWE can't remember this and bring it all back is beyond me.
I mean, I can't remember ever judeing Cena's wrestling style back when he was rapping. The raps were what people loved and remembered, unlike now where all they see of him is 5 moves of doom.
It's like The Sandman deal. That MF-er got so over because he drinks beer, not because he can wrestle like Kurt Angle. Same thing with Cena. He got over because he can rap, not because he can wrestle.
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Post by Scooter on Apr 23, 2006 9:41:52 GMT -5
Maybe all of Cena's tweener tendencies as of late are the best possible buildup to bringing this guy back. Eventually, the split crowds and the "I'm with you if you're with me but if you're against me, that's okay too" bologna will revert to Cena railing on the crowd and his opponents.
Of course this will probably make him more popular with the people who are booing and less popular to the kids who are cheering. This is why you need good, flexible, dynamic writing, and, you know, some skill behind the scenes in Stamford.
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Post by Chris Decker-The Wild Rover on Apr 23, 2006 9:54:53 GMT -5
its all about the music, that craptactular music is the sign of crediblitly. once he got a actuall really good theme song, he went down the crapper. cause i really don't enjoy cena. but his theme song was my CAW theme song
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Post by wweneedsbibleman on Apr 23, 2006 11:17:04 GMT -5
I do agree a ton with the music thing. His new synth trumpet crap is annoying.(I still can't decide whether Cena or Jarrett's music is more annoying.)
As for actual rapping. Cena should stay far away from it. I think having him release an actual CD killed a lot of his credibility. Even though it was a rapper gimmick the thing that made it special was it really wasn't about the rap. It was about him being a smartass who could do and say whatever the f*** he wants. The rapping adds to that because it was a show that the character "didn't care what you think." So, if you hated the rapping, that would have made him an effective heel.
Cena was part of an entire Smackdown card that for no reason was just awesome for a few weeks.(I think it was because Heyman was writing at the time. I might be wrong.)
Benoit/Angle as a tag team and fueding. Cena as original heel rapper Cena Matt Hardy as Matt Hardy V.1 Eddie and Chavo Gurrero being awesome Brock Lesnar is becoming more and more credible Undertaker was being biker taker and still being useful.
I miss those few weeks/months on Smackdown.
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therob
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Post by therob on Apr 23, 2006 11:28:18 GMT -5
Man that was boring and unfunny. I dont know why you all liked that so much . I just skipped through it.
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Post by Marksus on Apr 23, 2006 11:30:23 GMT -5
When any wrestler becomes super human it's shark-jumoing time. If they take a ass-kicking but find a way to win =ok, but beat down the whole match then jump up hit their finisher, pose= no no no.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Apr 23, 2006 11:30:47 GMT -5
Though I still like Cena, the rapping doesn't give a luv Cena was gold.
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Post by royboy8 on Apr 23, 2006 11:33:59 GMT -5
That was awesome! I forgot how great Cena was when he was allowed to free style
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Post by Scooter on Apr 23, 2006 12:08:39 GMT -5
Man that was boring and unfunny. I dont know why you all liked that so much . I just skipped through it. How can you deem something "boring" and "unfunny" if you "just skipped through it"? Honestly, I don't know what can get Cena over again if some people just find his presence annoying without giving the man a chance. If all else fails, someone should just teach him the SSP and he'll be over like gangbusters.
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Post by B.A. on Apr 23, 2006 12:09:58 GMT -5
oh yea! i remember that moment when he challenged fab and jayz but apparently they turned it down at the last moment.
Anyone know where fabulous went?
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Joekishi
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Post by Joekishi on Apr 23, 2006 12:10:07 GMT -5
he is over like an MF, and was over like an MF before fueding with angle and jericho... Right now he's over in a weird way, but the arena still explodes for him.
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therob
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Post by therob on Apr 23, 2006 12:11:32 GMT -5
Man that was boring and unfunny. I dont know why you all liked that so much . I just skipped through it. How can you deem something "boring" and "unfunny" if you "just skipped through it"? Honestly, I don't know what can get Cena over again if some people just find his presence annoying without giving the man a chance. If all else fails, someone should just teach him the SSP and he'll be over like gangbusters. because I dint just skip to the end I watched parts of it and the reason I was skipping through it was because it was boring and unfunny.
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Post by MOH [Still ''Le Sighing''] on Apr 23, 2006 12:11:47 GMT -5
Still mark for him...But whoah I miss this Cena.
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Joekishi
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Post by Joekishi on Apr 23, 2006 12:12:25 GMT -5
personally I think on the mic and in the ring Cena is better now than then, and he's having a lot more fun out there.
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Post by sephiel on Apr 23, 2006 19:39:58 GMT -5
John Cena was better in the ring and on the mic in OVW as Prototype and around 2003-2004 than he is now. The only ones having fun are the smarks, and marks. lol,yeah...not me. So, WHEN DO PEOPLE GET TO HAVE FUN?? Don't mind me just asking.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Apr 23, 2006 19:48:40 GMT -5
That was great. Clever, witty, and the rhyming gives it a unique touch. Not a Rock promo by any means, but a very good one. If he had been cutting promos like these against Jericho and Angle, rather than reading a script and being a Superman, he'd probably have stayed over better.
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Post by Warwolf on Apr 24, 2006 0:50:12 GMT -5
I miss pre show performing midcarder John Cena I hope to see John Cena on heat once again. Oh, and if you want good Cena- here you go- *beats you down with Sledgie for that obnoxious post.*
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2006 1:16:10 GMT -5
The current John Cena is fine, the lame persona is gone now.
All he needs to do is do a nice 1 on 1 job, job again in the rematch so everyone can feel better...then be placed in a non title feud. During that non title feud, he can win overall...but needs to lose once during it so its not just a "build up to winning back the title" ala HHH's comeback where he is unbeatable when it doesn't involve a title.
He can even win the title back down the line, that's seriously all it would take.
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Post by ske6 on Apr 24, 2006 1:18:20 GMT -5
What you need to remember is that John Cena can rap, does have wrestling ability and isn't reading a script when he does promos.
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Post by Rocky Angle on Apr 24, 2006 1:22:03 GMT -5
What you need to remember is that John Cena can rap, does have wrestling ability and isn't reading a script when he does promos. I take issue with at least one of those statements. And I'm glad you liked it warwolf, it would be an honour to be beaten by a superstar of sledgie's calibre.
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