Sting is "AFRAID" to go to the WWE

[CJ]

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Listening to these 2 spew their BS.... really agitated me

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

Afraid? No, and it's a stupid assumption. Gets off on being the last guy to "not need Vince"? Kinda seems that way to me.

[Savage Gambino]

These... marks are so full of crap, I need a colonic from just listening to them.

[CJ]

Apr 11, 2011 3:42:04 GMT -5 Savage Gambino said:

These... marks are so full of crap, I need a colonic from just listening to them.

I LOVE how they say Sting couldn't hang with Taker. How Sting is too soft, or would be gassed... lol

I guess these guys didn't see that intense brawl Sting had with Samoa Joe at BFG 08. What about that match he had with Abyss where he took that bump on the tacks?

It's infuriating

[Savage Gambino]

And on the subject of "gassed"; with all due respect to Taker and The Game, in what was a great match, easily the best one on the card (though that's not saying much, and hardly gives it the respect it deserves), wasn't damn near half of the match them taking a breather? I find it hard to believe Stinger is in worse shape than Taker. But that's just me.

[Professor Chaos]

The stinger's always been a wittle baby. Big Fish Small Pond, come to where the Big Boys Play hombre and you'd be eaten up alive, bwahahaha. Run along and go play with the castaways now.

[Julia Thorn Aradi]

I just loled at these guys saying that Sting is afraid. Seriously fellas watch his match with Samoa Joe or his matches with Abyss and tell me that Sting is a coward

[Jimmy]

Not even gonna listen, these are the guy/guys who just have an axe to grind. They hate ROH and constantly predict it going out of business.

[Shaq-Fu]

To be fair, Sting is looking pretty pale in that picture. Guy looks like he's seen a ghost.

[Professor Chaos]

Sting is a chicken, he's yellow. He auditioned for the role of Marty McFly but was too much of a coward to be on the same set as Jack Swagger.

[ANTLOL]

Well, thanks. I raged HARD at these idiotic marks talking shit about Sting.

[Psychoblue]

Unfortunately, I agreed with them 100%. When was the last time Sting got REALLY physical in a match, taking chair shots and the like. Not since the feud with Abyss, at least.

Sting turned down a Hall of Fame induction, a Wrestlemania debut against the Undertaker, and a chance to reel in royalties with a Sting retrospect DVD, and for what? "Playing it safe" and competing in an 88 second match with Jeff Hardy in the main event of a PPV. I don't know if that's fear as much as it is abject stupidity. He talks about what the fans want, but it's clear that what he wants takes precedence, and what he wants is to hold onto grudges that hold no longer hold any kind of weight.

GJ Borden. Instead of taking your place in history, you're now about as big and relevant a name as Stevie Ray.

[randomranter]

Apr 11, 2011 7:08:20 GMT -5 Psychoblue said:

Unfortunately, I agreed with them 100%. When was the last time Sting got REALLY physical in a match, taking chair shots and the like. Not since the feud with Abyss, at least.

Why would he need to? Not every match needs to be physical to the point of needing repeated chair shots to tell the story.

Sting turned down a Hall of Fame induction, a Wrestlemania debut against the Undertaker, and a chance to reel in royalties with a Sting retrospect DVD, and for what?

How do you know he turned it down? All indications are he was never offered it in the first place.

"Playing it safe" and competing in an 88 second match with Jeff Hardy in the main event of a PPV. I don't know if that's fear as much as it is abject stupidity.

That match wasn't Sting's fault. He was out there ready to go. Hardy is the one who literally stumbled out there in no condition to work. If you actually look at Sting, he was clearly pissed off, audibly agreeing with the fans that it was complete bullshit.

But it was 100% Hardy's fault, and had nothing to do with Sting.

He talks about what the fans want, but it's clear that what he wants takes precedence, and what he wants is to hold onto grudges that hold no longer hold any kind of weight.

What grudges? In every interview I've ever heard/read, he's never had anything but positive things to say about the WWE.

He makes well into the six figures working for TNA, and works a very, very light schedule. He's financially stable. He's one of the few people who's legacy in the business is cemented, and he's pretty much the only one who can say that he did it all without Vince.

What would he gain working for vince? A heavier schedule for just a little bit more money that he doesn't need? Notoriety that he already has? The privilege of jobbing to the Undertaker at Wrestlemania?

GJ Borden. Instead of taking your place in history, you're now about as big and relevant a name as Stevie Ray.

LOL. This has got to be the best thing I've read all day. Good job.

Sting's place in history has long since been cemented, and he'll be remembered by wrestling fans much more fondly than about 3/4 of the midcarders that are currently cluttering up the HOF.

And chances are even if he doesn't ever step into a WWE ring, he'll end up inducted anyway after he retires. There's plenty of big names in the HOF that have either never or next-to-never stepped foot in a WWE ring. Antonio Inoki and Abdullah the Butcher come to mind, but the list goes on.

So again....what does Sting have to gain by going to the WWE?

[Psychoblue]

Apr 11, 2011 7:21:41 GMT -5 randomranter said:

Apr 11, 2011 7:08:20 GMT -5 Psychoblue said:

Unfortunately, I agreed with them 100%. When was the last time Sting got REALLY physical in a match, taking chair shots and the like. Not since the feud with Abyss, at least.

Why would he need to? Not every match needs to be physical to the point of needing repeated chair shots to tell the story.

How do you know he turned it down? All indications are he was never offered it in the first place.

Because Sting said that he DID get offers like that, and he turned them down because of what happened with the Invasion.

That match wasn't Sting's fault. He was out there ready to go. Hardy is the one who literally stumbled out there in no condition to work. If you actually look at Sting, he was clearly pissed off, audibly agreeing with the fans that it was complete bulls***.

If he was in a company with some kind of competence, he wouldn't have been in that situation in the first place and would have instead faced someone like Angle or Anderson or someone who wasn't clearly in no shape to compete.


But it was 100% Hardy's fault, and had nothing to do with Sting.

What grudges? In every interview I've ever heard/read, he's never had anything but positive things to say about the WWE.

He makes well into the six figures working for TNA, and works a very, very light schedule. He's financially stable. He's one of the few people who's legacy in the business is cemented, and he's pretty much the only one who can say that he did it all without Vince.

OK, it's obvious you didn't read his latest interview which is what these two are talking about. He said that WWE offered him the HoF induction and match with Taker, but he turned it down because of what happened with the Invasion, and he was afraid he was going to bury him. Even worse, he said that Taker and Sting would be a dream match and what the fans wanted...yet he turned it down anyway, because of petty grudges and insecurities.

"I've wrestled everywhere and made it everywhere" sounds a lot more sincere than "I've never worked for Vince McMahon."

What would he gain working for vince? A heavier schedule for just a little bit more money that he doesn't need? Notoriety that he already has? The privilege of jobbing to the Undertaker at Wrestlemania?

As a WWE HoF, he would probably be wrestling very sporadically like in TNA. And "jobbing" to the Undertaker IS a privilege, because Taker is as big a legend as Sting and it would have likely been a competitive match.

[Citizen Zero]

Going by the number of people disparaging Sting just because he doesn't want to step into a WWE ring, it sure seems like *someone's* afraid...or at least insecure.

[Sektor]

If Sting joined WWE right now, I have no doubt that he would get treated with the respect he deserves. With that said, right after WWE became the only game in town, we all know alot of the outsiders joining got treated like garbage. So even knowing he wouldn't be buried, I'm sure that wouldn't really sit well with him.

As for being afraid of a physical match, thats a joke. Just because he hasn't taken 50 chairshots in a match just for the sake of it doesn't mean he wouldn't bust out a hardcore performance on the biggest night in wrestling.

My personal opinion is these guys are full of crap and were just looking for a reason to sling mud.

[simplydurhamcalling]

I haven't watched the video but I can gather from comments above what is contained in it and I disagree with their opinions. However, in a sense Sting is afraid of going to the WWE. He's stated in interviews he is worried about what they'd do to the character and his legacy after seeing what happened with other WCW wrestlers.

Personally, I think he's way too paranoid about the whole thing. If WWE wants to ruin the legacy of Sting and other WCW wrestlers it can do it with or without their permission. Can't see why they'd want to get Sting to sign a contract only to puposefully tarnish his legacy.

[randomranter]

Apr 11, 2011 7:30:05 GMT -5 Psychoblue said:

Because Sting said that he DID get offers like that, and he turned them down because of what happened with the Invasion.

There's a difference between "he got offers like that" and the specific "offer" you claim he got. Yes, Vince has been trying to get Sting for years and he's refused for various reasons. However, as I said, all indications are that Vince never made an offer at all. Why would Vince continue to make offers that he knows Sting is just going to refuse?

If he was in a company with some kind of competence, he wouldn't have been in that situation in the first place and would have instead faced someone like Angle or Anderson or someone who wasn't clearly in no shape to compete.

While I will agree that some of the fault lies with TNA's management, the blame still lies with Hardy. He's the one who stumbled out there.

TNA had exactly NO time to come up with a new game plan. Eric Bischoff had to go out there and "wing it", cutting a promo that did a horrible job of covering up the fact that he was changing things on the fly.

We could all say that "they should have done XYZ", but it's easy to do that when we have a LOT more information available to us, unlimited time to weigh all the options, and don't have to worry about the long-term consequences of our decisions. Further, we don't even know who was or wasn't even ready in the back. For all we know, Angle and Anderson could have been in the shower and wouldn't even be able to get dressed and out there in any decent amount of time. That's assuming they were even still in the building.

Yes, TNA should've done a better job of monitoring Hardy and making sure he was in shape to compete. But I'm not going to blame TNA for the way they handled the situation once he was out there since we obviously don't have all the information available and have no idea what their options were.

OK, it's obvious you didn't read his latest interview which is what these two are talking about. He said that WWE offered him the HoF induction and match with Taker, but he turned it down because of what happened with the Invasion, and he was afraid he was going to bury him. Even worse, he said that Taker and Sting would be a dream match and what the fans wanted...yet he turned it down anyway, because of petty grudges and insecurities.

Where is this interview? This is a serious question. Not just a bunch of dirtsheet writers and bloggers claiming that Sting said XYZ. I want to read the interview itself.

As a WWE HoF, he would probably be wrestling very sporadically like in TNA.

But he'd still have to travel, which is something he doesn't have to do in TNA since everything is out of the same place.

And "jobbing" to the Undertaker IS a privilege, because Taker is as big a legend as Sting and it would have likely been a competitive match.

Or maybe it would have been rest-hold city. Taker is and has been in no shape to go in a while. While the match with HHH is good, half the time was spent with the Undertaker laying around gassed out.

Why would sting want to job to a past-his-prime legend and become a footnote in the Undertaker's undefeated streak when he can continue having competitive matches with rising stars in TNA?

Also, Inoki stepped into a WWE ring way back in the WWWF. And heck, both Inoki and Abdullah are in the WWE HoF too.

You're making my point for me.

Sting's choices are:

1)Take a heavier schedule, more travel, marginally more pay (if that). Job to the Undertaker, get HOF induction.

or

2)Wait till retirement, likely get HOF induction anyway.

So why would he want to put up with all the backstage politics, increased travel, heavier work schedule, and having to job to a past-his-expiration-date Undertaker just to get something that he's likely to get anyway?

And that's assuming he even cares about the HOF. People like Sammartino and the Warrior have both repeatedly turned down HOF inductions, but their place in wrestling history is well secured without it. So is sting's.

[Ryushinku]

I do think he's a bit too paranoid, and I fervently hope he does eventually sign a WWE deal next year.

But on the other hand I can't blame him too much looking at how some past WCW-ers fared, and also considering that his working day is spent around an awful lot of guys very willing to paint Vince & co in the blackest possible light.

[randomranter]

Apr 11, 2011 7:48:55 GMT -5 simplydurhamcalling said:

I haven't watched the video but I can gather from comments above what is contained in it and I disagree with their opinions. However, in a sense Sting is afraid of going to the WWE. He's stated in interviews he is worried about what they'd do to the character and his legacy after seeing what happened with other WCW wrestlers.

After seeing what happened with the Invasion angle, and especially DDP, can you blame him?

Let's face it: The success rate of former WCW stars in the WWE isn't exactly promising. Even Goldberg's success in the WWE is debated.

Personally, I think he's way too paranoid about the whole thing. If WWE wants to ruin the legacy of Sting and other WCW wrestlers it can do it with or without their permission. Can't see why they'd want to get Sting to sign a contract only to puposefully tarnish his legacy.

Actually, this is wrong. WWE has control of the footage, but they are limited as to what they can do with it (and Sting's name/character for that matter). If they were to attempt to intentionally tarnish the legacy of Sting, they'd be opening themselves up to a huge slander/libel lawsuit, and Sting would have a legitimate claim that the WWE's actions would negatively impact his ability to make a living.

As for "purposefully tarnishing his legacy".....again look at DDP. The guy was an insanely over main event player in WCW who gave up everything to be a part of what he thought would be the biggest angle in wrestling history. And for his efforts, he was turned into a joke and jobbed out to the Undertaker's wife.

DDP was turned into a joke. Booker T was on the wrong end of a racism angle and lost that feud. Scott Steiner's run was a laughing stock (admittedly, this was largely his own fault). Goldberg's run was mediocre at best. Most of the WCW midcarders were treated like afterthoughts, jobbed out, and released.

Can't say I blame Sting for not wanting to be a part of that. If I were him, I'd be trying to distance myself away from it too.