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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 11, 2011 22:32:40 GMT -5
I don't understand why they shaft Morrison so much. He got heat for not taking action for the Batista/Melina stuff, and yet when he does take action in standing up for his girlfriend at Mania this year, he gets heat for that too? It's pretty much a lose-lose situation for him regardless to what he does for himself. Despite how great he is, honestly I think he has a better shot at succeeding in TNA than in the WWE. He had a chance to really shine this year and they never just go with it. He's over and has tremendous skill. R-Truth? Really? Triple threat for the WWE title? Get out of here. Don't even embarrass the title with his name in the same sentence as it. a little different not standing up to a guy whose banging your girlfriend, and taking your anger out on somebody who really had nothing to do with your girl not being on Wrestlemania (had Melina really done anything since the feud with Natalya?) And Truth isn't a bad choice. Again, I have to ask, did he not get injured or really sick not too long ago? Truth was always fairly over, and is a solid wrestler to have. It kind of reminds me of Christian vs. Cena vs. Y2J. As much as everybody here LOVES Christian, back in 2005 he was put in the match for Vengeance out of nowhere. It's probably a test run for Truth
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Post by Piccolo on Apr 11, 2011 22:33:17 GMT -5
I don't understand why they shaft Morrison so much. He got heat for not taking action for the Batista/Melina stuff, and yet when he does take action in standing up for his girlfriend at Mania this year, he gets heat for that too? It's pretty much a lose-lose situation for him regardless to what he does for himself. Well... no, I don't think so. I mean, look at it from Vince McMahon's perspective for a sec. Vince is a dude with whom machismo goes a long way. Backing down against a guy who could beat your ass, but "standing up" to a petite female yoga instructor, is probably the exact combination of behavior that's gonna make Vince look at you and think, "Weak-ass punk." I bet he'd respect the opposite combo. That is, IF Bats was sleeping with Melina while JoMo was with her. If they were broken up at the time, I don't know why anyone thought JoMo would have any business getting mad about it.
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Post by gnr123 on Apr 11, 2011 22:34:34 GMT -5
Yes, wait, nope. It was nevr Morrison's spot. Morrison doesa'nt dereve to be in the WWE Championship match.
It just show's you how much WWE does'nt trust Morrison for anything less than a few spot's.
R-Truth and Cena are persumably friend's, so it'll be intresting to see what happen's the next few week's. Cena being a bit of a heel was strange.
Anyway, R-Truth can work a proper match.
Wishful thinking, more like an idea, but maybe this is a slow build to a Cena heel turn.
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Post by fizzeewater on Apr 11, 2011 22:34:46 GMT -5
Hey, at least now the WWE Title match at the PPV has at least a slight chance of being entertaining.
If it was just Cena/Miz there would be -5694% chance of it being a good match.
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Post by Piccolo on Apr 11, 2011 22:35:33 GMT -5
I don't know, it definitely came out of no where. Sheamus wasn't even on Raw tonight either. But yeah, I think Truth deserves a shot, he's got talent. He just needs to drop the raping gimmick. Yeah, that raping gimmick is never gonna get him over.
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Post by companda on Apr 11, 2011 22:35:45 GMT -5
JoMo is a cuckold bitch. He stands up for himself when Trish said he was being standoffish and might not be the most intelligent person on the roster, but not when Batista is publicly f***ing his girlfriend? Whatever.
No way Vince would make a wimpy poon like Morrison the face of his company.
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Post by clifford on Apr 11, 2011 22:40:06 GMT -5
JoMo is a cuckold bitch. He stands up for himself when Trish said he was being standoffish and might not be the most intelligent person on the roster, but not when Batista is publicly f***ing his girlfriend? Whatever. No way Vince would make a wimpy poon like Morrison the face of his company. Aren't cuckold's older men who lose their wife/partner to younger men?
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Post by BigWill on Apr 11, 2011 22:40:46 GMT -5
I don't know, it definitely came out of no where. Sheamus wasn't even on Raw tonight either. But yeah, I think Truth deserves a shot, he's got talent. He just needs to drop the raping gimmick. Yeah, that raping gimmick is never gonna get him over. The raping hasn't gotten him over. The rap itself is over. There's a difference.
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Post by The Cool Pup on Apr 11, 2011 22:40:58 GMT -5
I don't understand why they shaft Morrison so much. He got heat for not taking action for the Batista/Melina stuff, and yet when he does take action in standing up for his girlfriend at Mania this year, he gets heat for that too? It's pretty much a lose-lose situation for him regardless to what he does for himself. Despite how great he is, honestly I think he has a better shot at succeeding in TNA than in the WWE. He had a chance to really shine this year and they never just go with it. He's over and has tremendous skill. R-Truth? Really? Triple threat for the WWE title? Get out of here. Don't even embarrass the title with his name in the same sentence as it. 1. There is absolutley no evidence to suggest John Morrison is in the 'doghouse' for his recent actions. 2. He's in the exact same postion he was in months ago. Its not like he's had a Swaggeresque fall in relevance. 3. R Truth is a good worker, is over with the crowd, and deserves a shot at a main event title match as much as anyone who has gotten one in the last year. Not saying this is your logic exactly, but I hate this kind of logic I descibe below, which is what your post reminds me of: 'WWE is boring. When will they push new guys to the main event? GAH NOT HIM. NO I want the guy I WANT to be in the main event. Anyone else is a disgrace' 1. There's enough proof as there isn't. Trish said that Morrison snubbed her and we know how she is viewed by management. I'd say it's a pretty damn likely scenario that Morrison is getting the short end of the stick with politics. 2. He was in a higher position many of months ago, getting high-profile wins over Sheamus, a former two-time champion and a favorite of Vince and Triple H. He had a lot of high spots in the Royal Rumble and Elimination Chamber and was generally regarded as a rising talent. Morrison is more over than R-Truth with people, both online and off. WWE knows of his ability and for him to lose to an average talent basing his entire gimmick on cheap pops, something is up. 3. Again. Sure, R-Truth is over. Every single face that says the name of a local sports team or city out loud gets over. Rapping the same song for three years? It's gotten old for most people and while there's no proof to this, I think part of what makes him so over is the fact that people would feel awkward to not reply to his "What's up?" because being met with silence would send an odd shiver throughout the arena. He is fine as a midcarder and US champion — not against Cena and Miz, your two big guys at a PPV main event. I am completely fine with the WWE product most of the time, because I know the audience it caters for and how professional wrestling's general logic goes, but to make R-Truth win out over someone WWE has been touting for a while as a talent of the future is a debacle and clearly backstage politics. Morrison can't catch a break and while I'm not saying it's right to reward someone for giving someone a cold shoulder who is high with your company leaders, but Morrison isn't getting younger and he needs to move on to the next level while the iron is hot. Being replaced out of the blue by someone who has been stale since 2009 seems awful suspect for me.
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Post by casualobserver on Apr 11, 2011 22:41:26 GMT -5
JoMo is a cuckold bitch. He stands up for himself when Trish said he was being standoffish and might not be the most intelligent person on the roster, but not when Batista is publicly f***ing his girlfriend? Whatever. No way Vince would make a wimpy poon like Morrison the face of his company. Wait! Batista publicly f***ed Melina? Somebody gotz to have pics of that!
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Post by cabbageboy on Apr 11, 2011 22:46:16 GMT -5
I'm not really reading anything into this. They will keep Morrison slow burning until the MITB PPV, where I would hope they pull the trigger and give him a push. But R-Truth? He's just going to be the guy that jobs in that match so that Miz can retain in bogus fashion.
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Post by clifford on Apr 11, 2011 22:48:30 GMT -5
1. There is absolutley no evidence to suggest John Morrison is in the 'doghouse' for his recent actions. 2. He's in the exact same postion he was in months ago. Its not like he's had a Swaggeresque fall in relevance. 3. R Truth is a good worker, is over with the crowd, and deserves a shot at a main event title match as much as anyone who has gotten one in the last year. Not saying this is your logic exactly, but I hate this kind of logic I descibe below, which is what your post reminds me of: 'WWE is boring. When will they push new guys to the main event? GAH NOT HIM. NO I want the guy I WANT to be in the main event. Anyone else is a disgrace' 1. There's enough proof as there isn't. Trish said that Morrison snubbed her and we know how she is viewed by management. I'd say it's a pretty damn likely scenario that Morrison is getting the short end of the stick with politics. Morrison is more over than R-Truth with people, both online and off. WWE knows of his ability and for him to lose to an average talent basing his entire gimmick on cheap pops, something is up. 2. He was in a higher position many of months ago, getting high-profile wins over Sheamus, a former two-time champion and a favorite of Vince and Triple H. He had a lot of high spots in the Royal Rumble and Elimination Chamber and was generally regarded as a rising talent. 3. Again. Sure, he's over. Every single face that says the name of a local sports team or city out loud gets over. Rapping the same song for three years? It's gotten old for most people and I can guarantee part of what makes him so over is the fact that people would feel awkward to not reply to his "What's up?" because being met with silence would send an odd shiver throughout the arena. He is fine as a midcarder and US champion -- not against Cena and Miz, your two big guys at a PPV main event. I am completely fine with the WWE product most of the time, because I know the audience it caters for and how professional wrestling's general logic goes, but to make R-Truth win out over someone WWE has been touting for a while as a talent of the future is a debacle and clearly backstage politics. Morrison can't catch a break and while I'm not saying it's right to reward someone for giving someone a cold shoulder who is high with your company leaders, but Morrison isn't getting younger and he needs to move on to the next level while the iron is hot, not be replaced by someone who has been stale since 2009. Yes, fair enough. You make valid points. Personally I think they have a bit more time with Morrison in regards to striking while the iron is hot. They could build him up a bit more until Money in the Bank where he wins a briefcase and gets built up even more. But what's the harm in throwing Truth into the title match? It more than likely will be only a three week angle. He will more than likely just be there to take the pinfall. With Edge retiring the WWE are really stuck for main event faces. I expect quite a few midcard faces to be getting a push in the coming months to see if they can start to fill the void. And yes I'm aware that Truth himself may be older than even Edge I think that the WWE might see him as a main event face placeholder for a year/year and a half. I'm not saying he will, nor do I think he will, but I think WWE will be on the hunt for new main event faces in the coming months, so I would expect a lot of Truth-like pushes to take place.
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Post by Piccolo on Apr 11, 2011 22:49:14 GMT -5
Yeah, that raping gimmick is never gonna get him over. The raping hasn't gotten him over. The rap itself is over. There's a difference. Oh, I agree. I was making a joke about raping vs rapping.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Apr 11, 2011 22:53:16 GMT -5
I just want to take this time out to thank the WWE for elevating R-Truth. With three weeks to go until the ppv, they have the opportunity to let him show what he can do. He finally has the opportunity to be more than the "What's Up" guy. Yea, he'll probably take the fall in the match, but a great showing in the next 3 weeks could mean big things for him either on RAW or Smackdown in the long run.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Apr 11, 2011 23:04:12 GMT -5
I don't know, it definitely came out of no where. Sheamus wasn't even on Raw tonight either. But yeah, I think Truth deserves a shot, he's got talent. He just needs to drop the raping gimmick. Yeah, that raping gimmick is never gonna get him over. It's not gonna keep him in the main event. Hell, Cena dropped the rapping gimmick when he was a Main Eventer. And I also spelled it wrong. Michael Tarver has the raping gimmick. And ohh, I missed that, like, I even missed the post before mine. But yes, indeed.
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Post by Starshine on Apr 11, 2011 23:05:14 GMT -5
How weird would it be if the end result had Cena take the fall to Truth?
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Post by Krimzon on Apr 11, 2011 23:07:42 GMT -5
Yeah, that raping gimmick is never gonna get him over. It's not gonna keep him in the main event. Hell, Cena dropped the rapping gimmick when he was a Main Eventer. Cena dropped the rapping gimmick because he had to become the WWE's top white meat babyface. Don't think those are the plans for R-Truth. Besides, Truth's rapping is more over than Cena's was.
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Post by Twincest on Apr 11, 2011 23:18:16 GMT -5
I hate to say it, but John Morrison just isn't that good. He has some good moves and his matches fflow pretty well most of the time, but he is only decent on the mic and his move execution is far too floaty. (By that I mean it doesn't look like he is hurting anyone with his offensive maneuvers.)
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Post by The Cool Pup on Apr 11, 2011 23:21:09 GMT -5
I hate to say it, but John Morrison just isn't that good. He has some good moves and his matches fflow pretty well most of the time, but he is only decent on the mic and his move execution is far too floaty. (By that I mean it doesn't look like he is hurting anyone with his offensive maneuvers.) How many people in the E actually "look" like they're hurting anyone? A lot of moves and finishers talents use defy the idea of what looks like it'd actually hurt and just has an explosive impact, which Morrison is great at. Really, showmanship is the entire idea of WWE and looking like someone is really hurting another person is not exactly what WWE has gone after.
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Post by BigWill on Apr 11, 2011 23:29:38 GMT -5
I hate to say it, but John Morrison just isn't that good. He has some good moves and his matches fflow pretty well most of the time, but he is only decent on the mic and his move execution is far too floaty. ( By that I mean it doesn't look like he is hurting anyone with his offensive maneuvers.) I think you just described R-Truth more than Morrison. And while Morrison doesn't have any high impact moves, at least they look like they connect, unlike most of R-Truth's moves.
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