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Post by Kay Faban on Mar 25, 2011 23:14:03 GMT -5
I figured Primo would be who he works with on TV first (probably the night after WrestleMania)
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Post by Fang on Mar 25, 2011 23:20:41 GMT -5
I can't stand smarks, especially when they send in live reports. It's like they're asking for ridicule. Agreed. God forbid they just go to a show and enjoy themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2011 23:24:25 GMT -5
Sin Cara made his WWE house show debut tonight in Champaign, IL with a win over Primo. Described on Twitter as "solid, not outstanding", and "he did about 8 types of headscissors, doesn't know how to work a Fed style match". Given that "Fed style" or "WWE style" is code for "can't wrestle". That's good thing L.O.L.
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Post by Raja Lion on Mar 25, 2011 23:49:28 GMT -5
Sin Cara made his WWE house show debut tonight in Champaign, IL with a win over Primo. Described on Twitter as "solid, not outstanding", and "he did about 8 types of headscissors, doesn't know how to work a Fed style match". Not knowing how to work a WWE style match is probably a good thing. Why do they call it Fed style? Is WWE associated with everything called Fed now? Its been called Fed style for years. And its NOT a good thing he doesnt know how to work a WWE match. Its a quick way to get heat from up top. Same thing happened to Jericho (read his newest book). While its a good thing from the artistic POV, if we wanna see this guy succeed, he will have to adapt to WWE style. Its pretty distinct. They need to tell the story in the ring much quicker than say an indie match where guys may get 30 minutes.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Mar 26, 2011 0:03:31 GMT -5
I googled "wwe fed style" and the first relevant results were this thread, and a thread on another board about the same thing. So yea, I doubt they've been calling it "fed style" for years. At least not on the internet.
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Post by Raja Lion on Mar 26, 2011 0:06:42 GMT -5
I googled "wwe fed style" and the first relevant results were this thread, and a thread on another board about the same thing. So yea, I doubt they've been calling it "fed style" for years. At least not on the internet. Its an industry term and isnt used as much since they "Got the F out", its interchangable with "WWE style". Its in a lot of shoot videos, London says it, as well as Daniels in his ROH shoot. Regardless, Sin Cara will need to learn to adapt if hes going to go far.
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Post by Shaq-Fu on Mar 26, 2011 0:08:48 GMT -5
I can't stand smarks, especially when they send in live reports. It's like they're asking for ridicule. Agreed. God forbid they just go to a show and enjoy themselves. I know I hate it when people dare to have opinions about things they watch. Why can't they just mindlessly enjoy anything and everything?
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Post by Remix on Mar 26, 2011 7:18:21 GMT -5
You know, I think it says good things for Primo that they trust him to be the first guy to work with the hot new prospect getting prepped for his big debut. Usually they seem to use one of the veterans like Chavo or Regal in this spot. Or maybe it's because Primo knows how to speak Spanish which is great for someone who doesn't know how to speak English it's his first day at work? He also knows more about wrestling the Lucha Style than anyone else on Raw. Added bonus.
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Post by randomranter on Mar 26, 2011 7:27:14 GMT -5
Two pages of people shooting the messenger. Who the hell cares if this guy is a "smark" or not?
Your opinion of his style is irrelevant. If he cannot change his style to meet the WWE's style of wrestling, he will not go far in this company. End of story. The WWE has a certain way they like their matches to go. You either adapt to that way, or you get released.
If all Sin cara is doing is head scissors after head scissors, he's not going to get very far with the WWE audience. That's going to get old fast. Yes, his style is what they're hyping to the audience and is going to be what either makes him or breaks him in the WWE, but he needs to adapt that style. "8 head scissors" isn't going to cut it.
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Mar 26, 2011 8:22:11 GMT -5
Two pages of people shooting the messenger. Who the hell cares if this guy is a "smark" or not? Your opinion of his style is irrelevant. If he cannot change his style to meet the WWE's style of wrestling, he will not go far in this company. End of story. The WWE has a certain way they like their matches to go. You either adapt to that way, or you get released. If all Sin cara is doing is head scissors after head scissors, he's not going to get very far with the WWE audience. That's going to get old fast. Yes, his style is what they're hyping to the audience and is going to be what either makes him or breaks him in the WWE, but he needs to adapt that style. "8 head scissors" isn't going to cut it. While I agree with you somewhat, and am not interested in the smark vs mark argument either, I do think that the tweeter is assuming a better "knowledge" of the WWE style than WWE themselves, smark or mark regardless. The WWE know what they are getting. After all, we had been hearing "Mistico to WWE" rumors for about a year and a half now. I doubt they were too much taken by surprise at what he and Primo accomplished last night. Heck even those highlight videos people were posting on here when he got signed were basically him doing headscissor variations and moonsaults. I'm sure whoever pushed hard for Vince to sign Mistico knows all this, and more. I think what is more important to WWE is how they can brand him. He does have a lot of head scissor variation moves, but those can help him be unique to an American audience. No one else has a moveset quite like him in the WWE right now. Mysterio of course does somewhat, but as we discussed in other threads about Sin Cara and the advantage of his youth, Cara is able to do much more with his body at this point. Really, as much as WWE seems to hamstring guys with interesting movesets--I doubt Seth Rollins is going to be using the God's Last Gift-- all they want is a moveset that can be done safely and can hook the crowd. It might seem redundant, but I think Bryan is a great example of this. We can watch his puro and ROH stuff and see certain things that we won't see in WWE, but I personally think that the moveset he has developed within the confines of the "WWE style"--the beautiful missile dropkick, the execution style kicks, the Lebell lock are all unique and don't detract from his talent. I believe this will be the same for Sin Cara.
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Post by Remix on Mar 26, 2011 8:27:38 GMT -5
Two pages of people shooting the messenger. Who the hell cares if this guy is a "smark" or not? Your opinion of his style is irrelevant. If he cannot change his style to meet the WWE's style of wrestling, he will not go far in this company. End of story. The WWE has a certain way they like their matches to go. You either adapt to that way, or you get released. If all Sin cara is doing is head scissors after head scissors, he's not going to get very far with the WWE audience. That's going to get old fast. Yes, his style is what they're hyping to the audience and is going to be what either makes him or breaks him in the WWE, but he needs to adapt that style. "8 head scissors" isn't going to cut it. While I agree with you somewhat, and am not interested in the smark vs mark argument either, I do think that the tweeter is assuming a better "knowledge" of the WWE style than WWE themselves, smark or mark regardless. The WWE know what they are getting. After all, we had been hearing "Mistico to WWE" rumors for about a year and a half now. I doubt they were too much taken by surprise at what he and Primo accomplished last night. Heck even those highlight videos people were posting on here when he got signed were basically him doing headscissor variations and moonsaults. I'm sure whoever pushed hard for Vince to sign Mistico knows all this, and more. I think what is more important to WWE is how they can brand him. He does have a lot of head scissor variation moves, but those can help him be unique to an American audience. No one else has a moveset quite like him in the WWE right now. Mysterio of course does somewhat, but as we discussed in other threads about Sin Cara and the advantage of his youth, Cara is able to do much more with his body at this point. Really, as much as WWE seems to hamstring guys with interesting movesets-- I doubt Seth Rollins is going to be using the God's Last Gift-- all they want is a moveset that can be done safely and can hook the crowd. It might seem redundant, but I think Bryan is a great example of this. We can watch his puro and ROH stuff and see certain things that we won't see in WWE, but I personally think that the moveset he has developed within the confines of the "WWE style"--the beautiful missile dropkick, the execution style kicks, the Lebell lock are all unique and don't detract from his talent. I believe this will be the same for Sin Cara. He's not. According to him, the guys in FCW aren't too happy about taking vertical bumps on their heads. He's kept pretty much everything else though and he's having awesome matches. Go look up his matches against Steamboat.
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Post by Steveweiser on Mar 26, 2011 8:57:41 GMT -5
A more accurate, positive report from the Observer website...
Primo Colon vs THE DEBUTING SIN CARA
Wow, this was a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to Sin Cara hopefully bringing back this exciting style to Monday nights. Mistico errr Sin Cara did most of his trademark spos, including the Corkscrew Plancha, the Springboard Rana, the Spinning Flying Head Scissors and the running headfirst dive between the ropes. They weren't all super smooth, but this is still night one. Sin Cara tried for another springboard rana but Primo reversed it into a power bomb. Primo tried for another Power Bomb, but this time Sin Cara reversed it into the La Mistica (!) for the submission win at 11:12. Good match and people liked Sin Cara, especially considering no one had seen him before or knew who he was. ***1/4
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 26, 2011 9:05:40 GMT -5
I love how the go-to insult for this guy is "smark". Why not just call him what he is, a moron?
More importantly, who cares? It's some guy on Twitter.
And wrestling needs more headscissors anyway.
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Post by andy82 on Mar 26, 2011 9:25:58 GMT -5
I love how the go-to insult for this guy is "smark". Why not just call him what he is, a moron? [nottryingtotroll]Just seems that the majority of online smarks are morons[/nottryingtotroll]
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2011 9:44:13 GMT -5
Sounds like more scandalmongering from a pretentious moron. Why did this get posted anyway, other than for us to laugh at the stupidity of whoever posted that?
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Mar 26, 2011 9:48:49 GMT -5
And which expert analyser tweeted this? And also did he cheer for the heels & boo the faces? Oh *THAT* Smackdown report. I remember that, it was a thing of moronic smarkish beauty. Probably the only time I've agreed with the comments section on a certain wrestling site.
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Post by Burst on Mar 26, 2011 10:09:01 GMT -5
Oh *THAT* Smackdown report. I remember that, it was a thing of moronic smarkish beauty. Probably the only time I've agreed with the comments section on a certain wrestling site. What date was that Smackdown? You don't have to mention the website or whatever if that's against the rules, but that sounds like an absolute eye-rolling hoot to read.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Mar 26, 2011 10:13:59 GMT -5
This is why guys should work house shows before getting on TV. FCW doesn't prepare you worth a damn for WWE TV.
He'll be fine.
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Post by Remix on Mar 26, 2011 10:38:30 GMT -5
This is why guys should work house shows before getting on TV. FCW doesn't prepare you worth a damn for WWE TV. He'll be fine. You mean like everybody does when WWE's concidering calling them up? Before WWE decided to screw that and throw them to the lions on NXT I mean.
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Post by BHB on Mar 26, 2011 11:22:22 GMT -5
Sin Cara made his WWE house show debut tonight in Champaign, IL with a win over Primo. Described on Twitter as "solid, not outstanding", and "he did about 8 types of headscissors, doesn't know how to work a Fed style match". Not knowing how to work a WWE style match is probably a good thing. Why do they call it Fed style? Is WWE associated with everything called Fed now? I assume he meant "K-Fed style". It's not surprising he can't wrestle like that, not everyone can beat Cena in their first match.
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