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Post by BurtSampson on May 8, 2011 12:15:36 GMT -5
I was kinda out of wrestling in 2003/2004 when those were at their height of popularity, so I dunno how I would've felt about them at the time, but looking back, it seems like a silly idea honestly. Did it not force them to drag out feuds longer and stuff like that?
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on May 8, 2011 12:25:14 GMT -5
With a passion. For one, much more of the people on a brand had to be in programs so they could fill the card, not to mention that titles were defended more often. Two, when there were interbrand PPV's or matches, it was a big deal; nowadays, someone appears on the other brand and it's not even surprising. But one of the very underrated benefits of it was that there was, on average, nearly two months between every PPV (with the exception, of course, of PPV's before or after the big four). As a result, feuds could be allowed to simmer that much longer before a PPV, thus making them more anticipated.
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Post by Bravo Echo November on May 8, 2011 12:28:56 GMT -5
I really miss them, for all the reasons Wolf Hurricane said. True some of the cards were mediocre but the positives outweigh the negatives imo.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on May 8, 2011 12:37:44 GMT -5
I miss the Smackdown one's more than the Raw ones because Smackdown's roster was often thinner so you got more obscure talent. The fact that Simon Dean vs. Bobby Lashley was on PPVand had several reoccurring segments where Lashley forced Dean to eat hamburgers is awesome!
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on May 8, 2011 12:43:37 GMT -5
The first thing I think of when I think of Single-Brand PPVs? 15 minute Orlando Jordan matches. No, I do not miss them at all. As a result, feuds could be allowed to simmer that much longer before a PPV, thus making them more anticipated. Only, they never were that much more anticipated because the storylines still went on at the same pace as they do now, and were subsequently redundant when they arrived most of the time.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on May 8, 2011 12:45:10 GMT -5
Really enjoyed them because they had eliminated the problem they've had in recent years of the same main event players in 3-4 consecutive PPVs.
You had more storylines, more people out there, and more focus.
Plus, the brand that didn't have a PPV would have a "Free-per-view" show that following week, so you also got some good free tv out of it as well.
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Post by Cyborg Franky on May 8, 2011 12:47:50 GMT -5
I miss them a lot.
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Post by PKO on May 8, 2011 12:53:15 GMT -5
I do miss them, others have mentioned the positives. Getting rid of them effectively got rid of the midcard and tag team divisions; the fact that they had to scramble together matches for Extreme Rules is crazy. That shouldn't be happening.
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Post by The Ichi on May 8, 2011 12:59:15 GMT -5
Are you all forgetting how bad a lot of the Smackdown PPVs were? I still have Kenzo Suzuki vs. Billy Gunn related nightmares, people.
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on May 8, 2011 12:59:43 GMT -5
I miss them a lot. Yeah, some times the undercard could be a little weak but some of those single brand PPVs were some of the best product WWE has ever knocked out.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on May 8, 2011 13:01:27 GMT -5
Are you all forgetting how bad a lot of the Smackdown PPVs were? I still have Kenzo Suzuki vs. Billy Gunn related nightmares, people. I'll take that over Great Khali main eventing three PPV's in a row
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Post by woowoowoox on May 8, 2011 13:01:28 GMT -5
So very much.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on May 8, 2011 13:38:48 GMT -5
Are you all forgetting how bad a lot of the Smackdown PPVs were? I still have Kenzo Suzuki vs. Billy Gunn related nightmares, people. I'll take that over Great Khali main eventing three PPV's in a row
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Post by Kangaroo_Punch on May 8, 2011 14:09:39 GMT -5
Yeah, for the reasons mentioned before, I don't miss them too much. Yes, there are cons to always doing interpromotional PPVs, but I seem to remember a great deal of the brand-exclusive shows to be really plodding.
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Post by jadison on May 8, 2011 14:17:30 GMT -5
I think they would work much better now because WWE has better workers. We wouldn't be watching Heidenreich and Luther Reigns in PPV matches, we'd be watching Daniel Bryan and Tyson Kidd.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 14:27:08 GMT -5
The funny thing is that the majority of single brand PPV's did better numbers then multi-brand PPV's do nowadays.
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Post by Lancers on May 8, 2011 14:28:26 GMT -5
I think this thread proves that nostalgia forgets the things that sucked. Single brand PPVs were horrible. I'm talking get hit in the nuts with a medicine ball repeatedly horrible. They were basically an episode of RAW or Smackdown that you had to pay money to see. Most, if not all, of the matches had already been done before on those shows prior to the card, and there would always be a rematch the following episode of those shows after the PPV.
Smackdown, in particular, gave us Mordecai vs. Scotty 2 Hotty as one of the matches at a PPV. SCOTTY 2 HOTTY VS. MORDECAI!!!! You would have to pay ME money to watch that train wreck.
I don't know how anyone enjoyed those PPVs, but to each their own I suppose. When Kenzo Suzuki is facing Billy Gunn at a PPV, you know your rosters are thinner than Bret Michaels' hair.
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Post by BurtSampson on May 8, 2011 14:32:39 GMT -5
From looking at the cards in 2003 it looks like the main event scene for the entire year was basically HHH vs. a challenger on RAW, or the revolving door of Angle/Taker/Brock/Cena on Smackdown
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Post by molson5 on May 8, 2011 14:41:10 GMT -5
I don't miss the quality of those shows, but I do miss the fact that a brand could sometimes go almost 2 months without a PPV.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on May 8, 2011 14:57:29 GMT -5
From looking at the cards in 2003 it looks like the main event scene for the entire year was basically HHH vs. a challenger on RAW, or the revolving door of Angle/Taker/Brock/Cena on Smackdown People will readily crap on the so-called "reign of Terror" that HHH was holding over on Raw. He was re-establishing the World heavyweight title against a myriad of opponents - some good (Kane, RVD, HBK) some not so much (Steiner, Nash). The SD cards were stronger as we had most of the SD six (Edge was gone most of 03 because of his neck injury). As for the "scotty 2 hotty v. Mordecai" argument - One match does not a PPV make.
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