Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 29, 2011 7:14:18 GMT -5
Most Power Finishers seem heelish, mainly since they're used by Monsters.
Though we need a little guy to pull a Gregory Helms and try to reclaim the Chokeslam for the small guys, haha.
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Post by snookimaniac on Apr 29, 2011 7:28:58 GMT -5
what about the crossface, always seemed heelish even before the incident
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Bang Bang Bart
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 29, 2011 8:32:39 GMT -5
The Shining Wizard kick seems like a face-ish maneuver. It's unfortunate it's not used often these days.
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 29, 2011 8:42:34 GMT -5
The Stunner always looked heelish to me, being how it starts with Austin kicking his oppoment in the junk (I know he was kicking them in the midsection, but often it looked like the junk).
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Post by demolitiondev on Apr 29, 2011 8:44:03 GMT -5
The Codebreaker seems waaay to faceish to me, because it was such a quick impact move, designed to get a pop.
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Post by stormwrestling on Apr 29, 2011 8:50:17 GMT -5
Pedigree is heelish for sure. Came here to post that
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Post by Savage Gambino on Apr 29, 2011 9:00:52 GMT -5
High-flying maneuvers seem to feel face-ish to me. Top rope, springboard, probably because I associate it with face pops. Which probably explains why, barring Justin Gabriel and Juvi (I think), there haven't been a lot of cruiserweight heels; it's like the Superman/Luthor model. The good guy flies, the bad guy doesn't.
On the other side of the scale, however, grounded moves always looked heelish to me. The Garvin stomp, Austin's stomping a mudhole, Shamrock's ground-and-pound; probably because of that whole phrase kicking someone while their down. It just seems like taking advantage of someone who can't defend themselves which, pragmatic though it may be in a combat sport, can't help but come off heelish.
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Post by snookimaniac on Apr 29, 2011 9:30:05 GMT -5
High-flying maneuvers seem to feel face-ish to me. Top rope, springboard, probably because I associate it with face pops. Which probably explains why, barring Justin Gabriel and Juvi (I think), there haven't been a lot of cruiserweight heels; it's like the Superman/Luthor model. The good guy flies, the bad guy doesn't. On the other side of the scale, however, grounded moves always looked heelish to me. The Garvin stomp, Austin's stomping a mudhole, Shamrock's ground-and-pound; probably because of that whole phrase kicking someone while their down. It just seems like taking advantage of someone who can't defend themselves which, pragmatic though it may be in a combat sport, can't help but come off heelish. Hogan legdrop?
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 29, 2011 11:18:20 GMT -5
All Indian Deathlocks look heelish to me partly due to its slower setup, as do sharpshooters. Faster submission holds like the Lebell Lock or the drop toehold-to-STF come off a lot more heroic.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 29, 2011 11:31:25 GMT -5
All Indian Deathlocks look heelish to me partly due to its slower setup, as do sharpshooters. Faster submission holds like the Lebell Lock or the drop toehold-to-STF come off a lot more heroic.It suddenly puts John Cena using the STF to a new perspective now, doesn't it?
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Post by El Hijo De Slapnuts on Apr 29, 2011 11:40:52 GMT -5
FIXED! ;D My best friend and I always see the Pumphandle Slam and the Big Boot as the ultimate big jobber finishers
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Post by Pervy Stone Cold on Apr 29, 2011 11:42:02 GMT -5
The Clothesline from Hell, seems like a face move because people also like Hell in a Cell.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Apr 29, 2011 13:14:50 GMT -5
I think the DDT is quite often used a heelish move
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Post by Savage Gambino on Apr 29, 2011 13:37:05 GMT -5
High-flying maneuvers seem to feel face-ish to me. Top rope, springboard, probably because I associate it with face pops. Which probably explains why, barring Justin Gabriel and Juvi (I think), there haven't been a lot of cruiserweight heels; it's like the Superman/Luthor model. The good guy flies, the bad guy doesn't. On the other side of the scale, however, grounded moves always looked heelish to me. The Garvin stomp, Austin's stomping a mudhole, Shamrock's ground-and-pound; probably because of that whole phrase kicking someone while their down. It just seems like taking advantage of someone who can't defend themselves which, pragmatic though it may be in a combat sport, can't help but come off heelish. Hogan legdrop? Hardly the same. The Hogan legdrop, People's Elbow, The Worm, those are good as simple-yet-effective signature/finishing moves. I'll go ahead and add to that list the standing moonsault/SSP and the running splash/senton. Hardly the same as just beating the crap out of someone like in the examples I gave previously.
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Post by keezy on Apr 29, 2011 15:01:28 GMT -5
The Punt, why is Orton getting cheered for giving people concussions?
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Post by Soultastic on Apr 29, 2011 15:12:31 GMT -5
The Punt, why is Orton getting cheered for giving people concussions? Because in a world were faces are incredibly bland and nice, the psycho face stands up a little bit more and gives the crowd something different. That's my theory anyway. On topic, maybe it's because of it's origin as a mockery of Lesnar's F-5, but the Attitude Adjustment always seemed kinda heelish to me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2011 15:16:49 GMT -5
ankle lock and bear hug's i'd say are heelish
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Post by bitteroldman on Apr 29, 2011 16:51:25 GMT -5
A lot of faces have used Spears. A quick, high impact move that pops the crowd. Sleeper holds are good for heels. Boring move that puts faces in peril. Sleeper was the finish for Verne Gagne, who was an uber face. What made it a face or heel move was how you woke your opponent up after the submission, Gagne would massage the neck area and shoulders to revive his fallen opponent where a heel such as Bockwinkel would boot his opponent.
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Post by bibboid on Apr 29, 2011 17:23:04 GMT -5
Using gravity and the victim's weight to inflict damage is faceish. Cena's AA, Lesnar's F5, Chokeslam, Powerbomb.
Using your body to injure the other wrestler is heelish. The Spear, Punk's GTS, Superkick, any and all submission moves.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Apr 29, 2011 20:19:01 GMT -5
Mandible claw always looked heelish as hell.
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