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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Apr 4, 2011 22:36:20 GMT -5
Before someone posts a reply gif or something of the sort, I won't say that Bryan was buried. He got some offense in and the match was given enough time to tell somewhat of a story. However, basically, all they were able to do was basically the same match they've had on RAW. I can see why people in the RAW thread were getting mad when all the Bryan and Sheamus fans were complaining if that's what were complaining for.
This all being said, I really think it has to be Smackdown for Bryan, or getting released. I'm happy for Sin Cara and was impressed with his debut as anyone else would be, but it just made me so sad to see Bryan get beat again by the Brogue Kick and then just get forgotten about right away. It's not a good sign when you are made to be easily forgotten. No PPV match, no promotion for their match tonight (unless you read Joey Style's twitter) and then easily swept under the rug after his loss.
I really want the best for Bryan, because I know he's worked so hard. I'm not clamoring for him to win every title, or any title, but I really just want him to be able to showcase all his hard work. Maybe I'm being a baby, but I watched all of RAW waiting for the match, and all I got was the same Sheamus/Bryan match we've had every time. Again it wasn't terrible, he wasn't "buried" but I just feel like skills are being so very disrespected. Bryan is a nice guy and has shown himself to be a team player, but I could see him going the "Kaval" way and asking for his release. That makes me sad because I know that Bryan has a much more relaxed and amiable attitude than Low-Ki, but even with his US Title run, he hasn't been given too too much to work with. I am fine with him jobbing to Sheamus or anyone else, if it's part of a storyline. But as it stands, how is he, or anyone going to grow as an "entertainer" when they're given so little.
I know this could be said for many other workers in the WWE, but it's just so disheartening to realize, and re-realize how much of a lose-lose situation midcard guys face in the WWE.
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Post by mrjl on Apr 4, 2011 22:37:04 GMT -5
Not every fued has to be about a belt.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Apr 4, 2011 22:38:28 GMT -5
And in the WWE none of the feuds are about a belt.
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Apr 4, 2011 22:39:36 GMT -5
Not every fued has to be about a belt. "I'm not clamoring for him to win every title, or any title, but I really just want him to be able to showcase all his hard work." That's what I wrote in my OP. |
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Post by Jacob Lee on Apr 4, 2011 22:39:50 GMT -5
Bryan just had a really long US title reign and I'm sure he'll be drafted to Smackdown. Could he be booked better? Yeah, but there are only so many spots and so much time on ever show. I honestly believe the guy has a couple of World Title matches ahead of him. However, I doubt he'll ask for his release because that would be career suicide at this point.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Apr 4, 2011 22:41:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I do understand where you're coming from, because I've become a big Bryan fan over the course of the past year. But I guess you have to remember that not everyone can be pushed at the same time, and he admittedly got a pretty good run as US Champ. Unless he gets FE'd, I wouldn't count him out just yet.
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Post by BigBadZ on Apr 4, 2011 22:41:30 GMT -5
I'm hoping that this Sheamus/ Sin Cara thing somehow involves Bryan, and Sin Cara and Bryan can tear down the house a few times before Cara becomes US Champion
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Apr 4, 2011 22:41:49 GMT -5
Meh, the entire mid-card's booked like an afterthought anyways, so DBD being shafted a bit doesn't bother me anymore than anybody else getting it.
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Post by CNR79 on Apr 4, 2011 22:41:54 GMT -5
They should put him in a nice 2-month feud with Punk (the feud they briefly teased before Punk went after Cena). It will help get Bryan over with the mainstream fans and won't hurt Punk's status at all. Of course it may produce some great wrestling matches, so I doubt it would happen.
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Post by saintpat on Apr 4, 2011 22:42:07 GMT -5
One thing that may be being overlooked here: a guy like DBD is most valuable to WWE in house shows, where he can be given 15 minutes or more to really work a match and impress the crowd. I suspect he is used well in that capacity and that if he keeps doing so he'll get more and more over with fans who can see what he can do.
Chavez doesn't do much on TV, but at every house show where I have seen him he's one of the stars. His matches always seem to start with no crowd interest and then he wins them over with his workrate and professionalism.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Apr 4, 2011 22:45:36 GMT -5
I think there is a lot of worry. Like, Daniel Bryan beat Dolph Ziggler last year three matches in a row, so it's not like it hasn't happened before. It's happened with a lot of people, and right now, it's happening with Daniel Bryan. So like, I guess it's bothersome to me a bit because I'm a Daniel Bryan fan, as he's one of my favourite wrestlers currently.
However, I will say though that it hasn't been the same since the Bella Twins, that angle was just poison. Makes me dislike them more then I do now. But, it's been done before, it's just with him. They're using him to build up Sheamus for a big feud with Sin Cara. For awhile, it was Sheamus being used to build up other people, and Miz and Dolph Ziggler were used to build up Daniel Bryan.
It bugs me, but only for my own personal biases.
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Apr 4, 2011 22:45:48 GMT -5
One thing that may be being overlooked here: a guy like DBD is most valuable to WWE in house shows, where he can be given 15 minutes or more to really work a match and impress the crowd. I suspect he is used well in that capacity and that if he keeps doing so he'll get more and more over with fans who can see what he can do. Chavez doesn't do much on TV, but at every house show where I have seen him he's one of the stars. His matches always seem to start with no crowd interest and then he wins them over with his workrate and professionalism. I completely agree! And some of my hope does reside in that fact. I know that much like anyone who has a distinct "quirk" about them--for Bryan, it's his size disadvantage"-- they have to go "grass roots" and win one fan at a time. I do think Bryan can do that, I guess I just need some more patience. I'm not going to lie though, tonight tested my patience quite a bit. |
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Post by primetime110 on Apr 4, 2011 22:48:10 GMT -5
I think he had too long of a run as champ. He buried zigger more than edge did.
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Post by Hammer Smashed Ball on Apr 4, 2011 22:52:09 GMT -5
I think there is a lot of worry. Like, Daniel Bryan beat Dolph Ziggler last year three matches in a row, so it's not like it hasn't happened before. It's happened with a lot of people, and right now, it's happening with Daniel Bryan. So like, I guess it's bothersome to me a bit because I'm a Daniel Bryan fan, as he's one of my favourite wrestlers currently. However, I will say though that it hasn't been the same since the Bella Twins, that angle was just poison. Makes me dislike them more then I do now. But, it's been done before, it's just with him. They're using him to build up Sheamus for a big feud with Sin Cara. For awhile, it was Sheamus being used to build up other people, and Miz and Dolph Ziggler were used to build up Daniel Bryan. It bugs me, but only for my own personal biases. These are very excellent points. The WWE fluctuates like the tide. Bryan will be fine. |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 4, 2011 22:54:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I do understand where you're coming from, because I've become a big Bryan fan over the course of the past year. But I guess you have to remember that not everyone can be pushed at the same time, and he admittedly got a pretty good run as US Champ. Unless he gets FE'd, I wouldn't count him out just yet. He didn't really have a good run as U.S. Champ, though. It was good up to the show-stealing matches with Dolph Ziggler in October. After that, when WWE should have realized how valuable he was, they started shoving him down the card. He and Dolph stole a PPV, and THEN he was de-pushed. Where's the sense in that? I agree with the OP. A good majority of the midcard guys are being sorely misused in WWE. When I was growing up watching the WWF, the midcarders were equally if not more awesome than the main-eventers. You had guys like Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Mr. Perfect, Owen Hart, British Bulldog, Rick Martel, Razor Ramon, 1-2-3 Kid, etc. going out there and being given ample time to wrestle and get over. Nearly everything involving them made them look better, win or lose. Jump ahead to today's WWE, where we've got Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler, Sheamus, John Morrison, Kofi Kingston, MVP (before leaving), Drew McIntyre, and Wade Barrett all busting their asses and putting on some of the best performances of the year, and being thanked by getting jobbed out or severely downplayed. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2011 23:00:49 GMT -5
A trade to SmackDown would be a good move for him, actually. There's not really room on Raw, but SmackDown has a thinner roster, it'd benefit Kofi since he'd no longer be the only over face midcarder on the show and could potentially move up in the world, and some potential feuds - like Rhodes or Swagger - are interesting.
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Post by ScottishProWrestling on Apr 4, 2011 23:09:16 GMT -5
Why is it lose lose, why does everything have to be rushed these days. Guys used to sit in the mid-card for years before breaking out and making a name. DB is a great mid-card guy that'll put guys over. Vince knows this about DB and I don't think WWE will be in a hurry to get him out of there and I doubt DB will want out.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Apr 4, 2011 23:22:53 GMT -5
I just hope he doesn't become a jobber.
I mean, we've had some extremely talented jobbers in the company. It frightens me.
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Post by amdrag502 on Apr 4, 2011 23:29:38 GMT -5
I just hope he doesn't become a jobber. I mean, we've had some extremely talented jobbers in the company. It frightens me. JAMES F'ING GIBSON! |
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Post by Schemer on Apr 4, 2011 23:36:13 GMT -5
I didn't have a problem with the booking at all. I just want to see them use him well, because he gets the reactions when he's wrestling. He just can't seem to get that initial pop on his entrance. It worries me that he doesn't get the entrance pop.
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