Update on Sin Cara & possible WWE name for Averno

[Dave at the Movies]

In addition to FCW talent Alex Koslov, luchador Averno was one of the unidentified wrestlers in the Sin Cara in-ring videos that WWE shot in Los Angeles back before he made his debut

Averno saying he hasn't signed with WWE is being done so he can keep interest in his final match with CMLL. The belief is that Averno will come into WWE without his mask and one name thrown around for him is Rey Ortiz II.

Regarding Cara, there was concern about him after his pay-per-view match against Chavo Guerrero but WWE officials are determined to make him work because he has been promoted as the first talent brought on by Triple H. There has always been skepticism of Cara's inability to speak English and right now, he's mainly communicating through one of the WWE referees who is bi-lingual..

Source lordsofpain


I'm hearing they may bring more guys from CMLL in to work with Sin Cara. I'm sure a lot of cmll guys are willing because cmll is very old school and a lot of the younger guys are unhappy there.

There is a young guy down there named Rush who I think could fit in wwe really easily. He has the right body type and everything.

Right now I think cmll is grooming a new young guy to take Mistico(sin cara)'s place. His name is Angel De Oro and he is pretty damn good. He has a very similar religious gimmick to what Mistico had and he has just won two of the most recent cmll tournaments so they are pushing him big time.

I haven't seen the new guy they have under the Mistico mask on their TV show yet. Whoever it is I don't think they will last and I think cmll will go with Angel De Oro instead.

[Big L]

Ummm how about having him learn English asap

[Burst]

Jun 2, 2011 22:51:35 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

The belief is that Averno will come into WWE without his mask and one name thrown around for him is Rey Ortiz II.

Are they THAT damn uncreative with luchadore or even Mexican-sounding names?

[James McCloud IS John Godot]

Bring back El Gran Luchadore. Until Botch Botcha (uh, I'll work on that nickname) can defeat the Champion of Mexico, his credentials are incredibly suspect.

[Deleted]

Jun 2, 2011 22:56:40 GMT -5 Burst said:

Jun 2, 2011 22:51:35 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

The belief is that Averno will come into WWE without his mask and one name thrown around for him is Rey Ortiz II.

Are they THAT damn uncreative with luchadore or even Mexican-sounding names?

As much as I love the idea of two Reys in one company, anyone wish they'd instead call his Atlas?

[Dave at the Movies]

Jun 2, 2011 22:56:40 GMT -5 Burst said:

Jun 2, 2011 22:51:35 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

The belief is that Averno will come into WWE without his mask and one name thrown around for him is Rey Ortiz II.

Are they THAT damn uncreative with luchadore or even Mexican-sounding names?

I wish they were bringing him in with a similar gimmick to his averno gimmick but I guess we doesn't want more than two guys in masks on the roster

I'm afraid averno won't get over due to him not having the wwe body at all. Hopefully he can tear the house down with cara and prove people that it doesnt matter that he has the body of El Dandy.

[Evilution E5150]

doubt they'll name him Rey anything, arent they big on branding and not confusing one tallent for another leading to certain name changes when people are brought up not just for copywrite reasons

[Tyfo]

How about Alonzo Del Rio.

That's original right?

Or at least that's what the Spanish version of the FCW/WWE Name Generator tells me.

[Kash Flagg]

Jun 2, 2011 22:56:40 GMT -5 Burst said:

Jun 2, 2011 22:51:35 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

The belief is that Averno will come into WWE without his mask and one name thrown around for him is Rey Ortiz II.

Are they THAT damn uncreative with luchadore or even Mexican-sounding names?

You see what they name the guys in FCW. Now ask that question again.

[casualobserver]

Mix in a Rosetta Stone for Sin Cara.

[fsblue]

This is what they get for not having him go to FCW for a few months. He has the talent to become a real main attraction but he needed some major grooming first.

[Jimmy]

Ricky Ortiz II

[Seth Drakin of Monster Crap]

Jun 2, 2011 22:58:56 GMT -5 James McCloud IS John Godot said:

Bring back El Gran Luchadore. Until Botch Botcha (uh, I'll work on that nickname) can defeat the Champion of Mexico, his credentials are incredibly suspect.

Do I have to do everything in making a nickname for Sin Cara (Without Face). Here ya go...........a little spanish for ya.

Chapuza Cara (Botch Face)

[Krimzon]

Kaval said going to FCW was good to teach him the pacing of a WWE match. That is what NoFace needs help with most.

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

Jun 3, 2011 1:27:04 GMT -5 Krimzon said:

Kaval said going to FCW was good to teach him the pacing of a WWE match. That is what NoFace needs help with most.

Yeah, but that would be admitting a defeat, no matter how small. And HHH's first major talent acquisition isn't going to be allowed to fail at all.

[Indifference Abounds]

Jun 2, 2011 22:58:56 GMT -5 James McCloud IS John Godot said:

Bring back El Gran Luchadore. Until Botch Botcha (uh, I'll work on that nickname) can defeat the Champion of Mexico, his credentials are incredibly suspect.

You have no idea how much I would mark for that.

[kidtamagotchi]

Jun 2, 2011 22:51:35 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

In addition to FCW talent Alex Koslov, luchador Averno was one of the unidentified wrestlers in the Sin Cara in-ring videos that WWE shot in Los Angeles back before he made his debut

Averno saying he hasn't signed with WWE is being done so he can keep interest in his final match with CMLL. The belief is that Averno will come into WWE without his mask and one name thrown around for him is Rey Ortiz II.

Regarding Cara, there was concern about him after his pay-per-view match against Chavo Guerrero but WWE officials are determined to make him work because he has been promoted as the first talent brought on by Triple H. There has always been skepticism of Cara's inability to speak English and right now, he's mainly communicating through one of the WWE referees who is bi-lingual..

Source lordsofpain


I'm hearing they may bring more guys from CMLL in to work with Sin Cara. I'm sure a lot of cmll guys are willing because cmll is very old school and a lot of the younger guys are unhappy there.

There is a young guy down there named Rush who I think could fit in wwe really easily. He has the right body type and everything.

Right now I think cmll is grooming a new young guy to take Mistico(sin cara)'s place. His name is Angel De Oro and he is pretty damn good. He has a very similar religious gimmick to what Mistico had and he has just won two of the most recent cmll tournaments so they are pushing him big time.

I haven't seen the new guy they have under the Mistico mask on their TV show yet. Whoever it is I don't think they will last and I think cmll will go with Angel De Oro instead.

Yeah, Rush would fit right in with the WWE (seems like the fans in Arena Mexico don't like him for some reason).

Angel De Oro is freaking amazing! He even has an awesome theme song (Nemo by Nightwish).

Could you imagine Mr. Niebla with his current gimmick in WWE. That would be pretty amazing!

[Urethra Franklin]

Alex Koslov is fluent in Spanish, no? Why not call him up? He can cut a promo in English.

[FUNK_US/BRODUS]

He needs someone other than Chavo in the ring. At Over The Limit, Chavo's age showed tremendously. Its the first time Ive ever noticed this with Chavo, but Sin Cara was a step ahead the whole time, and Chavo looked like an old man.

[Deleted]

I doubt they'll go with Rey Ortiz II , I'm holding out for Super Blue Cross #7 or Villano XVIII