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Post by wrestlesmarks on Apr 4, 2006 23:01:45 GMT -5
We've all heard the stories of these gentlemen holding down talent and booking themsevles to go over time and time again so lets see who's done the best job. HHH: Jericho, RVD, and lets just saw Tomko for the hell of it since hes become quite popular, ETC.... Hulk Hogan: Savage, Benoit, Bret Hart, EL DANDY!, ETC... Jeff Jarrett: TNA...... This is all in good fun, I know all three of these guys have paid their dues and gave alot to the business, well expect Jarrett
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Post by thefunkytiger on Apr 4, 2006 23:04:56 GMT -5
Hogan held Flair down in WCW, which is the ultimate power move.
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Post by Rocky Angle on Apr 4, 2006 23:05:50 GMT -5
Hogan, some of the stories about him are just insane.
HHH really let me down with his holding people back powers, judging by wrestlemania, they are weak.
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Post by JC Superfreak on Apr 4, 2006 23:08:44 GMT -5
as much as we bellyache about hunter, hogan has to be the all-time ball and chain on the leg to new talent
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Post by wrestlesmarks on Apr 4, 2006 23:08:52 GMT -5
As much as I dislike HHH's abuse I do acknowledge and respect the fact that he jobbed at the last two WM's.
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Post by samachine on Apr 4, 2006 23:11:11 GMT -5
Eh
Hulk doesn't really hold talent down. If he does it's talent that's already established and could easily be popular on their own. However JJ kills peoples motivation while they rise, see Rhyno, Ron Killings, etc
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Post by sunwukong on Apr 4, 2006 23:12:02 GMT -5
Eh Hulk doesn't really hold talent down. Quoted for insanity.
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Post by samachine on Apr 4, 2006 23:13:59 GMT -5
Eh Hulk doesn't really hold talent down. Quoted for insanity. How so? Please tell me what great up and comer Hulk has ruined?
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Post by emcg on Apr 4, 2006 23:15:04 GMT -5
As much as Trips holds back talent today, trust me. He has nothing to compete with Hulk "Please don't comment on my hair loss or you will find yourself working at Burger King flipping flamebroiled whoppers" Hogan.
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Post by WWE Trademarked My Name on Apr 4, 2006 23:16:18 GMT -5
As much as I dislike HHH's abuse I do acknowledge and respect the fact that he jobbed at the last two WM's. Last 3* pretty impressive
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Post by j-man on Apr 4, 2006 23:49:43 GMT -5
Jeff Jarrett because he's a huge reason why I don't watch TNA. I know TNA wanted a recognizable name as Champion, but Jeff Jarrett isn't a household name or anything. Forget the X division... those guys should be in the main event even though I hate their style of wrestling. They are the face of the company yet Jarrett is always involved in the main event picture.
HHH has put over Benoit, Batista, and Cena at the last three Manias so that more then makes up for anything he's done. Really he only never lost to Jericho. He's put a lot of people over despite what Road Dogg and Billy Gunn have to say when their not in rehab.
Hogan I'll let slide because he is responsible for wrestling as we know it. Without Hulkamania who knows where the E would be. Hogan had to be Superman so it makes sense that he didn't lose to many people.
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Post by Jake Robert's Dealer!!! on Apr 4, 2006 23:55:11 GMT -5
HBK without a doubt.
This prick held down so many people, ruined angles, and cried like Beyotch backstage. Seriously the guy only legitamately lost the WWE title once (WM 14), the other belts he won he lost them by either walking away or forfeited belts.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Apr 4, 2006 23:59:55 GMT -5
HBK without a doubt. This prick held down so many people, ruined angles, and cried like Beyotch backstage. Seriously the guy only legitamately lost the WWE title once (WM 14), the other belts he won he lost them by either walking away or forfeited belts. I thought he lost it to Sid at Survivor Series 96, regained it at Royal Rumble 97, then lost his smile...
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Post by reyssondominic on Apr 5, 2006 0:03:45 GMT -5
Who did HBK hold down other than Bret Hart? ...And he legitimately lost to Sid... It wasn't a fluke, he got pinned in the middle of the ring.
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Post by Jake Robert's Dealer!!! on Apr 5, 2006 0:04:24 GMT -5
HBK without a doubt. This prick held down so many people, ruined angles, and cried like Beyotch backstage. Seriously the guy only legitamately lost the WWE title once (WM 14), the other belts he won he lost them by either walking away or forfeited belts. I thought he lost it to Sid at Survivor Series 96, regained it at Royal Rumble 97, then lost his smile... He did, but only because RR 97 was in his hometown and he wanted to win the title in his hometown. That is the ONLY reason why he jobbed at SS 96.
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Post by reyssondominic on Apr 5, 2006 0:06:02 GMT -5
I thought he lost it to Sid at Survivor Series 96, regained it at Royal Rumble 97, then lost his smile... He did, but only because RR 97 was in his hometown and he wanted to win the title in his hometown. That is the ONLY reason why he jobbed at SS 96. Mmm, I liken it more to how Edge went over Cena and then lost shortly thereafter. If you recall, at SS96 HBK was getting a lot of boos from the smark NYC crowd. He put Sid over because Vince wanted Sid to hold the belt. Edit: All you Bret Hart marks out there, attention. This thread has turned into the old Hate on HBK cliche. Commence HateBK
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Post by Jake Robert's Dealer!!! on Apr 5, 2006 0:11:00 GMT -5
He did, but only because RR 97 was in his hometown and he wanted to win the title in his hometown. That is the ONLY reason why he jobbed at SS 96. Mmm, I liken it more to how Edge went over Cena and then lost shortly thereafter. If you recall, at SS96 HBK was getting a lot of boos from the smark NYC crowd. He put Sid over because Vince wanted Sid to hold the belt. Edit: All you Bret Hart marks out there, attention. This thread has turned into the old Hate on HBK cliche. Commence HateBK I just said ONE thing about HBK and now you piss and moan and bring Bret Hart into it. After all he did "lose" his smile. That is ridiculous.
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Post by reyssondominic on Apr 5, 2006 0:11:41 GMT -5
I knew it would turn into that though. You still haven't answered the question: Who has HBK held down other than Bret Hart?
Also if you're picking HBK over Hogan and Jarrett, why not choose "Other"? It still has zero votes.
And if he didn't lose his smile, NINE YEARS AGO, we might not have had the Austin phenomenon that got its jumpstart at wm13.
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Post by Jake Robert's Dealer!!! on Apr 5, 2006 0:14:03 GMT -5
I never said he held down bret hart
But he did Hold down other talent (along with the clique), Bam Bam Bigelow, Chris Candido, Shane Douglas, and anybody who was threatening "Michaels" main event spot.
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Post by reyssondominic on Apr 5, 2006 0:15:55 GMT -5
I never said he held down bret hart But he did Hold down other talent (along with the clique), Bam Bam Bigelow, Chris Candido, Shane Douglas, and anybody who was threatening "Michaels" main event spot. Bam Bam? He main evented WM11, and look where that took him. Chris Who? Shane Who? Give me a freaking break. And he DID hold down Bret Hart, hell I'll even admit that!
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