Speculation on WWE Working with ROH

[hassanchop]

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- There are people in WWE who don't know this for sure but strongly suspect there is some kind of working agreement between Ring of Honor and WWE. There are also people in ROH who think the same thing. At the same time, people on both sides insist there is nothing going on between the two companies.

Sources insist that some of the things CM Punk spoke about in his infamous RAW promo a few weeks back will start finding their way onto WWE TV soon. For example, Punk talked about Triple H taking over and he began that storyline on this week's RAW. Punk also mentioned John Laurinaitis and Colt Cabana, both who appeared on WWE TV in the past week. While Cabana wasn't named by the announcers, he was shown at ringside on Money in the Bank and was photographed with Punk and the WWE Title in Chicago after the pay-per-view. Punk also mentioned Ring of Honor, which adds to the speculation that WWE may be working with them.

For what its worth, Cabana has told at least one indy promotion that he's worked regularly with that he's not taking any more bookings with them after next month.

[Bub (BLM)]

Makes sense. ROH is a breeding ground for future WWE Superstars and poses no threat to WWE in terms of audience or ratings. It benefits both sides to work together.

[eJm]

It makes complete sense to me, really. ROH is growing its own niche, will be back on TV soon and like Hit Monkey said, they're not a huge threat at the same time.

They're signing Claudio and Hero too soon as well so, really, it does them no harm to try it.

[B'Cup x]

so the implication is that Punk has some kind of ability to see into the future?

I call BS on this, for one, Punk said both HHH and stephanie would take over when Vince Mcmahon was DEAD! Colt did not appear on WWE tv, he was provided ringside seats along with Punks mum and other very good friend Ace Steel. Ill give them Laurenitis, but maybe they inserted him in to explain who he was to the casual fans who were clueless after Punk's promo, its not like he has doen anything.

Punk also spoke of NJPW, Brock Lesner and Paul Heyman, Hulk Hogan and many other things, If were meant to take what punk mentioned as coming true, then where the hell are they? x

[Brother Nero....Wolfe]

Jul 20, 2011 5:26:49 GMT -5 B'Cup x said:

so the implication is that Punk has some kind of ability to see into the future?

I call BS on this, for one, Punk said both HHH and stephanie would take over when Vince Mcmahon was dead. Colt did not appear on WWE tv, he was provided ringside seats along with Punks mum and other very good friend Ace Steel. Ill give them Laurenitis, but maybe they inserted him in to explain who he was to the casual fans who were clueless after Punk's promo, its not like he has doen anything.

Punk also spoke of NJPW, Brock Lesner and Paul Heyman, Hulk Hogan and many other things, If were meant to take what punk mentioned as coming true, then where the hell are they? x

Do you dare to question our savior's prophecies? HEATHEN!

[randomranter]

lol, I love it. Punk mentions ROH and all of a sudden the dirtsheets come up with this so-called deal between ROH and the WWE. Just like when he name-dropped people like Lesnar and Heyman and all of a sudden "Inside Information" claimed there were deals with them too. Oh, and there are also supposedly deals in place with every ROH guy like Colt Cabana that Punk has name-dropped as well.

sigh.....

I'm surprised we haven't heard of newz claiming there's a deal with TNA after Cena indirectly referenced them and Hulk Hogan on monday....

[Fauxberg]

As much as I would love to see this happen, I gotta call BS.

[Protest the Chris Hero]

Cool story fanboy

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

I don't see how WWE could benefit from working with ROH. I suspect that the majority of WWE's fans - i.e. the kids and girls who are into Cena rather than into wrestling, per se - couldn't give less of a f*** about ROH.

And please people who are fans of Cena AND ROH please don't start pointing out to me how you're an exception, because that wasn't my point. I've never met an 8-year-old Cenation fanboy that watches ROH, even if I'm sure they do exist.

[Djm Doesn't Find You Funny]

I'm usually willing to give a story a chance and not just scream "NEWZ, NEWZ, NEWZ!" like a lot of people, but this just screams pure speculation.

Of course, nobody has been right about anything beyond CM Punk not beying around anymore, and WWE talking to Hero, Castagnoli & Cabana.

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

Jul 20, 2011 6:17:35 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

I don't see how WWE could benefit from working with ROH. I suspect that the majority of WWE's fans - i.e. the kids and girls who are into Cena rather than into wrestling, per se - couldn't give less of a f*** about ROH.

It would be more of a the stars of ROH today, can become the stars of WWE tomorrow. The current WWE Champion, and the current Smackdown Mr Money in the Bank are both ROH alums.

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Jul 20, 2011 4:51:44 GMT -5 hassanchop said:

allwrestling.com/News/38171/speculation-wwe-working-roh-cm/

- There are people in WWE who don't know this for sure but strongly suspect there is some kind of working agreement between Ring of Honor and WWE. There are also people in ROH who think the same thing. At the same time, people on both sides insist there is nothing going on between the two companies.

That is longest version of "we don't know, but we're going to report on it anyways" that I've seen lately. Rajah would be proud.

I seriously doubt that WWE and ROH are working together in any capacity.

[________ has left the building]

It's like its 1997 all over again.

Sorry to break it to you guys, but WWE is not working with or owns ROH, TNA, NJPW, or any other wrestling company. Please continue fantasy booking by all means. It's fun to read some of the wild ideas people have. I hope the one I read of "CM Punk wins every world title to become the undisputed Champion of the Earth" comes true.

[Green Arrow]

Jul 20, 2011 7:28:06 GMT -5 ________ has left the building said:

It's like its 1997 all over again.

Sorry to break it to you guys, but WWE is not working with or owns ROH, TNA, NJPW, or any other wrestling company. Please continue fantasy booking by all means. It's fun to read some of the wild ideas people have. I hope the one I read of "CM Punk wins every world title to become the undisputed Champion of the Earth" comes true.

Easy...Doesn't one of the Mexican promotions have a Champion of the Universe belt or something similar?

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I wouldn't be surprised if they had sort of an unofficial behnd the scenes agreement, like WWF had with ECW. But I highly doubt they would be working togeter in any official capacity, especially with ROH trying to gain some leverage and become a true player in the industry right now.

[Wieners=$$$]

The WWE and ROH have been on working terms for quite some time. In 2005, ROH was part of the whole Matt Hardy "angle," and in 2006 Punk was able to work a ROH show. The WWE isn't so oblivious to indy talent as many think. They've known about the niche market that ROH caters to and realize that ROH is considered the indy flagship promotion. Why wouldn't the WWE want to farm talent from the most popular promotion on the indies, especially when they have marketable talent that would freshen up WWE's cookie-cutter style? As long as ROH isn't a major threat to the WWEthen the two companies working together will be good for the business.

[randomranter]

Jul 20, 2011 8:29:33 GMT -5 Wieners=$$$ said:

The WWE and ROH have been on working terms for quite some time. In 2005, ROH was part of the whole Matt Hardy "angle," and in 2006 Punk was able to work a ROH show.

Matt Hardy screaming "RING OF HONOR" while being dragged off and CM Punk asking for a personal favor hardly translates into "Working terms".

The WWE isn't so oblivious to indy talent as many think. They've known about the niche market that ROH caters to and realize that ROH is considered the indy flagship promotion.

Which means precisely nothing.

Why wouldn't the WWE want to farm talent from the most popular promotion on the indies, especially when they have marketable talent that would freshen up WWE's cookie-cutter style?

WWE doesn't want them to be "marketable". That's why anyone who is hired by the WWE gets a complete name and gimmick change.

As long as ROH isn't a major threat to the WWEthen the two companies working together will be good for the business.

Doing business with ROH would do absolutely nothing for the WWE.

ROH fans already know about (and likely watch) the WWE as well as ROH. Exposing ROH fans to a product they already know about is going to do absolutely nothing to draw in new fans.

WWE fans being exposed to ROH may cause the WWE to lose some fans who may like the ROH product better. I'm sure that the actual number of fans potentially lost wouldn't even register as a blip on the radar, but a loss is a loss.

ROH would have everything to gain and nothing to lose by a WWE/ROH partnership. WWE would have absolutely nothing to gain that they don't have already.

[BitterAF]

Jul 20, 2011 5:26:49 GMT -5 B'Cup x said:

so the implication is that Punk has some kind of ability to see into the future?

I call BS on this, for one, Punk said both HHH and stephanie would take over when Vince Mcmahon was DEAD! Colt did not appear on WWE tv, he was provided ringside seats along with Punks mum and other very good friend Ace Steel. Ill give them Laurenitis, but maybe they inserted him in to explain who he was to the casual fans who were clueless after Punk's promo, its not like he has doen anything.

Punk also spoke of NJPW, Brock Lesner and Paul Heyman, Hulk Hogan and many other things, If were meant to take what punk mentioned as coming true, then where the hell are they? x

Why does an angle have to be three weeks long? Punk said a lot of things in his Raw promo. He talked about Johnny, he then appeared on TV and PPV. He talked about HHH taking over some day, and it happened on Monday. WWE would NEVER allow a guy to get this hot and then leave. I think he signed a new deal, but has some time off first. With that said, this angle is actually going to last more than three weeks. Hell, it could go to the end of the year, Wrestlemania, who knows, but it has potential. You have the Vince McMahon mindset where an angle lasts 3 weeks and has to end at the PPV of that month.

I'm not saying WWE is or is not working with ROH, but with Punk involved with this angle, I know he's going to stretch it out over time, rather than having it just last 3 weeks and then forgotten about after summer.

[Wieners=$$$]

Jul 20, 2011 8:37:58 GMT -5 randomranter said:

Jul 20, 2011 8:29:33 GMT -5 Wieners=$$$ said:

The WWE and ROH have been on working terms for quite some time. In 2005, ROH was part of the whole Matt Hardy "angle," and in 2006 Punk was able to work a ROH show.

Matt Hardy screaming "RING OF HONOR" while being dragged off and CM Punk asking for a personal favor hardly translates into "Working terms".



Which means precisely nothing.



WWE doesn't want them to be "marketable". That's why anyone who is hired by the WWE gets a complete name and gimmick change.

As long as ROH isn't a major threat to the WWEthen the two companies working together will be good for the business.

Doing business with ROH would do absolutely nothing for the WWE.

ROH fans already know about (and likely watch) the WWE as well as ROH. Exposing ROH fans to a product they already know about is going to do absolutely nothing to draw in new fans.

WWE fans being exposed to ROH may cause the WWE to lose some fans who may like the ROH product better. I'm sure that the actual number of fans potentially lost wouldn't even register as a blip on the radar, but a loss is a loss.

ROH would have everything to gain and nothing to lose by a WWE/ROH partnership. WWE would have absolutely nothing to gain that they don't have already.

Except marketable talent that has appeared on television AND PPV. You can make the argument that the WWE would just take from them no matter what, but maybe it comes down to not only getting the talent, but the name of the talent. CM Punk has become a household name. You think Colt Cabana when he comes back will still be called Cabana or Goldman? Don't think of it as fans "jumping ship" to ROH, but WWE trying to get back those fans that have already made the jump.

Listen the WWE isn't going to sweat a few fans "jumping ship" to an indy promotion, especially when ROH is still a niche market. Working terms could mean anything from the WWE using ROH as a farm promotion, to the two companies coming to some kindof working relationship. How many times has any other indy promotion been acknowledged on WWE LIVE television? Why would WWE allow ANY competition, indy or major, announced on their flagship program not just once, but on multiple occasions?

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Vince already has a working relationship with an indy...FCW I think its called?

I think people are wishing for something so bad that through some osmosis their brains are making them believe its actually real and are reporting it.