Jerry Lawler goes to WCW instead of the WWF

[isink]

He defeats glacier in the 2nd match on Thunder. Afterward he gets beat down by the nWo and Hogan cuts an hour long promo.

[crabnebula]

Jul 4, 2011 21:07:04 GMT -5 isink said:

He defeats glacier in the 2nd match on Thunder. Afterward he gets beat down by the nWo and Hogan cuts an hour long promo.

he would've been there waaaay earlier than that, but that is still a possibility

[Tiger Millionaire]

We miss out on numerous new World odor references?

[Can you afford to pay me, Gah]

?? Not sure what the thread is about.

[crabnebula]

Jul 4, 2011 21:22:10 GMT -5 Can you afford to pay me, Gah said:

?? Not sure what the thread is about.

i attempted to delete my original post so i could move it to the rest section. i was a little out of it, when i first put it up and accidentally put it in the wwe attitude era to now section. but someone commented on it before i could move it

i was just trying to start a thread, brainstorming on what would have happened, could have happened booking wise if Jerry Lawler had joined WCW in the early mid 90s instead of going to the WWF

that's it

[wildojinx]

Glacier? Thunder? More like Van Hammer and Power Hour (he went to the wwf in 1992)

[rapidfire187]

Everything would be the same for the most part...

[fortknox]

I can see him having a feud with Sting.

[celticjobber]

He probably would've been an upper mid-card or even main event star if he went to WCW in the early 90's. Depending on politics (not sure how he got along with people like Dusty and Bill Watts).

[ICBM]

I could see an out of shape Dusty come back for a Lawler fued. Flair vs Jerry would be a given. US champ and then a slight threat to the world belt (not if its Vader)

[wwefan71080]

Could you just imagine, Jerry Lawler as one of the 4 horsemen in 1993 instead of Paul Roma or come 1996 cutting promos against the NWO, I think those would have been very entertaining

[crabnebula]

Jul 5, 2011 22:54:50 GMT -5 wwefan71080 said:

Could you just imagine, Jerry Lawler as one of the 4 horsemen in 1993 instead of Paul Roma or come 1996 cutting promos against the NWO, I think those would have been very entertaining

Me too. I would have loved him been a spokesperson for Southern Style Rasslin and 'Tradition' through the early 90s in WCW and on into the NWO era, instead of seeing him become the corporate shill guy he is today for sports-entertainment and i would have loved to have missed out on all the puppy comments during the attitude era.

that being said, i loved the feud he had with bret hart. that could have taken place in memphis though or in wcw in 98

["Nature Boy" Ric Moranis]

To this day, Eddie Gilbert was blamed for spilling the beans to dirtsheets that WCW was gonna work with Memphis/USWA for a Luger vs. Lawler unification match. The whole deal fell through because of this.

I think this was 1991. Lawler was supposed to beat Luger for the WCW World Title in Memphis...then drop the Unified-Unifed World Title to Luger on WCW PPV. The seeds of that storyline were planted in Lawler interviews on Memphis TV.

WCW and USWA would then do a talent exchange. Some of the younger USWA wrestlers with potential (Austin, Jarrett, Brian Christopher, PG-13, Sabu, RVD) appearing in WCW (although I think Austin was in WCW by this time).

Alternately, midcard WCW name guys (Rock N' Roll Express, Freebirds, One Man Gang, Arn Anderson, Terry Taylor, Bobby Eaton, Junkyard Dog) would appear regularly in USWA to help pop gates in that territory.

Green WCW guys like Oz (Nash), El Gigante, PN News, etc. would have spent time in Memphis for seasoning...probably working programs as monster heels vs Lawler. I can totally picture Lawler throwing a fireball at Kevin Nash or El Gigante in a Mid-South Coliseum main event.

Also, the WCW champ (now the Unified World Champ) would regularly defend against different USWA guys at Mid-South Coliseum. This would've usually been Luger, Sting, or Vader.

Whole deal fell through though, and Jerry Jarrett & Lawler hooked up with Vinny Mac the next year. It kind of sucks for WCW & USWA that this didn't happen. It could've only helped WCW during their crappiest era (Post-Flair 1991). And I think it would've been less one-sided than WWF & USWA's relationship (because Vince didn't need USWA's help as bad as WCW).

I think Bill Watts would've kept it going through 1992-93. Watts always did talent/booker exchanges with Memphis when he was with Mid-South, and tried to start the same WCW scenario that I just described, but a year later, and with Smoky Mountain.

[doguncle]

I thought it was Heyman who was the fall guy for the Luger-Lawler scenario not going through. Am I mistaken or was there a SMW/Memphis feud later as well?

[turkeysandwich]

Jul 6, 2011 15:30:23 GMT -5 doguncle said:

I thought it was Heyman who was the fall guy for the Luger-Lawler scenario not going through. Am I mistaken or was there a SMW/Memphis feud later as well?

Not sure about the Heyman part, but yes there was a SMW/USWA feud in either 1995, I know Lawler held the Smoky Mountain Title for a while and The Armstrongs, Tracy Smothers, and The Rock n Roll Express came to Memphis. I could be wrong, but I think it was around this time that SMW closed its doors and a lot their guys ended up in Memphis. The USWA only lasted about a year and a half after that.

[smokey1980]

I would've enjoyed it. WCW was a lot more willing to use older wrestlers in main event capacities. He could have had some fun feuds there, and I wouldn't rule out a little world title reign, either.

[Trip Fisk a.k.a. Foley is Good]

He would finally make his Starrcade debut at Starrcade 29 in a match against a heel Tony Schiavone.

[johnnyk9]

Would've quit when he saw how the company was run

[Deleted]

"The Two Jerrys" (Jarrett & Lawler) made a deal in the early '90s with the WWF to protect their territory while still functioning as a sort of training ground for future Superstars. Jarrett was hired by Vince during the steroid trial in case McMahon was found guilty and had to serve time in jail. Vince put the company in adequate hands, so the wrestling business could still plug onward.

In 1996, Jarrett gave his notice to leave the WWF. He couldn't stand being a "yes-man" and had his own contractor business to attend to. Months later, WCW asked him if he wouldn't mind being a "consultant", which allowed him to work his own hours from home.

I really think Lawler wouldn't go through with it. He seems really loyal to Vince for allowing Memphis to stick around. (Lawler said that if it were anybody else as the top star, the WWF would have taken Memphis, but since he was the top star and had interests in the territory as part-owner/booker, they were able to fight them off. If somebody like Handsome Jimmy Valiant were the top star and he had no stake in the company and no reason to stick around, we would have went under also.) Remember that he still "owned" Memphis in 1996. "The King" would constantly be running down WCW shows, even going on TV in 1997 saying that "WCW had an event here in Memphis a few months ago and some guys told me they had a sign that read 'Memphis Is King Country' that they were going to unveil. Well, WCW took that sign away from them. So I notice that WCW is running a Nitro here this Monday. I just want to tell everybody to not go to that show."

(WCW ended up setting a gate record.)

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Some other guys he pissed off would have shit in his crown instead.