CJ
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Post by CJ on Apr 17, 2011 22:05:28 GMT -5
Tonight was so obvious, that TNA is out of touch with their fans. Does TNA honestly believe that people wanna see Immortal, a shitload of promos, stupid storylines and shitty feuds...  |
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Krimzon
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Post by Krimzon on Apr 17, 2011 22:06:46 GMT -5
They would give fans what they want if they had the slightest clue what we wanted.
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CJ
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Post by CJ on Apr 17, 2011 22:11:05 GMT -5
They would give fans what they want if they had the slightest clue what we wanted. I think it's pretty obvious that the fans basically want something new and innovative. If you look at how over some of their talents were years before... you'd think TNA would get the hint that people wanna see those guys. |
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Post by Raja Lion on Apr 17, 2011 22:11:54 GMT -5
He's there after all.  |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 17, 2011 22:12:07 GMT -5
I think the live crowd liked it, I liked it, and it seems like a fair amount of other people liked it.
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Post by Thynny Fat Ass on Apr 17, 2011 22:12:24 GMT -5
It's my understanding that Spike is about to pick up TNA, turn it over and shake it like an Etch-A-Sketch pretty soon, so.. fingers crossed.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Apr 17, 2011 22:13:41 GMT -5
I think the live crowd liked it, I liked it, and it seems like a fair amount of other people liked it. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 17, 2011 22:15:11 GMT -5
The live crowd seemed pretty dead for the majority of the show.
Up until the middle of Angle/Jarrett.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 17, 2011 22:19:13 GMT -5
The live crowd seemed pretty dead for the majority of the show. Up until the middle of Angle/Jarrett. Yeah, I was thinking other than Steiner, Angle damn near killing himself and AJ's return they were dead. Like 'Mania though, this seems to be either you loved it or you hated it, no middle ground. As for the topic at hand, TNA doesn't know who their fans are, so how can they know what they want? They think they draw a WWE style crowd and book for that when the truth is they don't. They get the hardcore fans of wrestling and they're going to tune in no matter what so why book for them? |
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Post by Raja Lion on Apr 17, 2011 22:19:40 GMT -5
The live crowd seemed pretty dead for the majority of the show. Up until the middle of Angle/Jarrett. Exactly. The crowd was lifeless until Angle/Jarrett and then stayed into it until the end. TNA does not set itself apart from WWE. That's their biggest problem that was made worse by first bringing on Russo and further compounded by Bischoff and Hogan. Its been the problem for years now. They have talent in the ring in every respect, but they dont know what creative means. |
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Post by Efren on Apr 17, 2011 22:47:27 GMT -5
I think the live crowd liked it, I liked it, and it seems like a fair amount of other people liked it. |
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Post by Zen411 on Apr 17, 2011 23:55:28 GMT -5
I was there live. My first TNA live experience. I agree that it was hard to get into the PPV until Angle-Jarrett. As much as I hate that feud, both guys are ring generals and put on a very solid match. I can't believe Jarrett won. WHY??
Thoughts:
Both former Dudleys still have it and should be given solid pushes. (Devon worked the dark match, Bully Ray worked the main event....)
The X Division match was a cluster.... and they went with the worst pick to win. I don't even know that guy. They should have elevated Kendrick or Red (who got a solid ovation)
Cant believe the Mickie title win was so fast. Very anticlimactic. She wins the title after months like that??
The tag match was ok.
Angle should have won. That really makes no sense and killed the effect of a match the crowd was into. I would have preferred no run-ins, esp. Karen.
Not sure why the title match went on before lethal lockdown. I wish Hogan had more of a role on the show. I heard a rumor that he was going to wrestle? Anyways, this town's one chance to see Hogan and it was so he could run out and hand a pipe to RVD and stare at Sting again? Come on!
Lethal Lockdown: MVP: Daniels. I have never been of fan of his, but mainly based on his look and lack of promo skills. Seeing him live was like WOW. He tore it up. Divebomb off the cage. Wow.
Flair was entertaining in this match, but I keep thinking how he is tarnishing the legacy and every match could potentially be his last match.
All in all, enjoyable show, esp. the second half, but some of the booking decisions were questionable and didn't really deliver. It was nice to see TNA originals stand tall at the end.
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Post by clashofchampains on Apr 18, 2011 7:51:55 GMT -5
It's my understanding that Spike is about to pick up TNA, turn it over and shake it like an Etch-A-Sketch pretty soon, so.. fingers crossed. It would be pretty sad if corporate heads from a tv station would know more about what the fans wants than wrestling guys doing a wrestling show. Spike is part of Viacom, right. They are loaded. They could just say, alright we're cancelling Impact. Panda do whatever you want, you can shop your product where you want. Meanwhile Viacom/Spike would finance their own new fed. They would start signing wrestlers left and right, lure a few guys that are in current TNA, name their show Spike Wrestling or whatever and then audition bookers and the one with the most interesting vision would be hired. |
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 18, 2011 8:03:09 GMT -5
Do you know what the collective mass of fans really want?
Ratings go up when people here think the show was awful, and down when they think it was good. How do we know then that TNA doesn't give them what they want, which is at odds of what people here want?
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Apr 18, 2011 10:24:53 GMT -5
Someone in TNA is stuck in the mindset that "you have to keep them coming back next week", which while a basic rule of booking wrestling also misses another very important basic rule of wrestling - feuds need to end and new feuds need to begin.
The best balance is achieved when feuds ending and beginning are staggered in such a way that a new one is starting out at the same time that two or three are drawing to a close.
Creative don't seem to understand this and often write feuds to keep on until well after people are no longer interested, resulting in feuds that simply dwindle out with a whimper when Creative runs out of steam with them, rather than finishing with a bang at a specified and calculated point in time (which ideally should be at a pay per view).
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acevenom
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Post by acevenom on Apr 18, 2011 10:59:36 GMT -5
TNA is more out of touch on the business perspective than anything else. I still never got my free TNA on demand despite the fact that I proved I purchased Victory Road.  They don't get another cent from me unless I get that. All that said, they're not going to catch up with WWE in the ratings unless Vince completely loses his mind. If TNA can continue getting between 1.1 and 1.3 throughout the year, they'll be fine with Impact. They're not directly airing against WWE, so they have that going for them. |
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Post by Michael Coello on Apr 18, 2011 12:19:53 GMT -5
I'm sure when the fans themselves know when they want, it'd be easier.  |
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pacino
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Post by pacino on Apr 18, 2011 12:36:43 GMT -5
last night most of the faces won
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 12:46:29 GMT -5
I'd settle for a blowoff to Angle / Jarrett. This feud's been more or less going on for six months, hasn't it?
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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 18, 2011 12:49:52 GMT -5
I'd settle for a blowoff to Angle / Jarrett. This feud's been more or less going on for six months, hasn't it? On and off for 3 years now really. |
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