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Post by Michael Coello on Feb 25, 2011 15:22:58 GMT -5
also it killed months of storyline with Hogan and Flair feuding That storyline was already over, as Flair was focused on the formation of Fortune and the feud with EV2.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Feb 25, 2011 17:36:10 GMT -5
This was the show where TNA did not live up to its name. Way too much talking and barely any wrestling. It reminded me of the reasons why I hated the Attitude Era.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Feb 25, 2011 19:26:05 GMT -5
It's the equivalent of someone finally looking like they may be on an upward turn and finally change for the better and then just flop. They got a spike for the ratings but they bled viewers as the show went on and lost whatever they had gained by the following week.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 25, 2011 20:46:02 GMT -5
It might be the show that if TNA ends soon, will be what many consider creatively the final nail in the coffin.
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Post by texaswhopper on Feb 25, 2011 20:56:01 GMT -5
If there ever is a "Death of TNA" book the author should give one chapter to this episode of Impact.
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Post by dlg3000 on Feb 26, 2011 10:03:14 GMT -5
Here is my take on it. I am usually entertained by watching TNA Impact. But I have to say this is the first time in the history of watching TNA that I was actually bored. I hated the debut of the Shore because it was so cheesy and so cringe-worthy. The usually loyal entertained audience was shouting "boring" during the debut. I am assuming that they too wanted to see a good wrestling match. But instead we got a bunch of jibber jabber about what happened at the last ppv, which was a rather risky investment in itself.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Mar 1, 2011 10:46:52 GMT -5
It was an episode that had more promo time than wrestling time. Per the standard approach of making mountains out of molehills, some people acted like it was some sort of atrocity that glorified survival. The rating of the show was 1.41. agreed, it didn't bug me that much nor did i see it as something i survived. i survived Jeff Jarrett's version of HHH's reign of terror. while not in one night that is the first thing i think of when i think of surviving something in TNA.
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Post by bob on Mar 1, 2011 12:07:59 GMT -5
also it killed months of storyline with Hogan and Flair feuding That storyline was already over, as Flair was focused on the formation of Fortune and the feud with EV2. you may be right, I have a horrible memory but the point I was trying ot make is that Flair and Hogan never really settled their feud so to speak, which is why them joining together didn't make much sense to me again I have a horrible memory so I could be wrong
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Post by woowoowoox on Mar 2, 2011 0:01:14 GMT -5
Lol... I tuned into that episode for the first time in a really long time... and I just sat there thinking "Total Nonstop Action my ass!"
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Post by "The Rated XXX Superstar" Jed on Mar 2, 2011 0:41:23 GMT -5
The blow-by-blow (and boy did it blow):
The show opened with Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff coming to the ring. Hogan was on crutches. Hogan said, “Enough of the crap” and that it’s time to take what is their’s. Hogan called Dixie Carter a liar and that she screwed him when he signed with TNA, So now he's taking over. Bischoff introduced the first member of they (which we now know as Immortal); Abyss (oh joy). Abyss hardcore hugs and screams "There here!" and cuts a promo, Hogan calls him his son (ugh). Next is Jeff Jarrett (who broke a thousand guitars and never drew a dime). He basically says at first he wasn't down with them, but now they're tight. Bischoff insults Dixie. And out came Ric Flair and Sixtune. Flair at first acted like a face, but then hardcore hugged Hogan, so they're bros now. Next, out comes Jeff Harvey! The crowd chants "you sold out", but Harvey says "I sold in!" Whatever that means. Meanwhile, Sting and Kevin Nash are shown in the locker room... looking bored. Bischoff calls them to the ring and here come they come. Bischoff asks them to join, but Nash respectfully declines and they both walk away.
Please keep in mind, this entire promo lasted 42 minutes and was interrupted by a commercial break. Unfortunately, the show continued.
Madison Rayne enters after Immortal finally exits the ring and seems pissed. Tara apparently wasn't supposed to beat her at BFG and she calls her out to "do the right thing." The bell rings, Tara lays down, new Champ. Mickie James enters and says she wants a piece of Madison (not that). Madison runs away.
We are now one hour into a 2 hour wrestling show and have seen no actual wrestling. Pathetic.
The one upside is next. Kirk Angel comes to the ring without pyro or music. Angle says he reinjured his neck & ribs but won't leave until he gets some answers, dammit! Here comes buzzkill, I mean Jeff Jarrett. He reminds Kurt that he did say he'd leave if he didn't win the title, so GTFO. Angle said he made TNA what it is today, and they're nothing without him. Kurt went after Jeff but security intervenes, then Jarrett lays the smackdown on Kurt until Taz intervenes and says enough is enough.
Abyss vs. Samoa Joe was a welcome wrestling match, but ultimately a throwaway. Joe won by DQ when Abyss used the ring bell. RVD then entered and called out Harvey. (Jeff, not the rabbit) Hardy just appears on the Hogantron mumbling about friendship. Bischoff says the ME will be RVD vs. Anderson... Anderson.
Sixtune defeated Pope in a four-on-one handicap match, though I had trouble discerning who the four legally in the match actually were. Beer Money hit DWI on Pope, then beat him down after the match.
The Shore enters (Good god no!) and starts cutting a really dumb promo on Jersey Shore, and I just don't care. Jwoww enters, catfight with Cookie ensues, and Jwoww seems to have more ring skill than the actual "wrestler" Cookie.
Shoot me.
Ken Anderson vs. RVD was cut off after about a minute when Impact officially went off the air, meaning there was about 5 minutes of bell-to-bell wrestling in the whole damn show. The match was aired on ReAction, lasting 7 more minutes (meaning ReAction had more wrestling action than Impact). It ended in a no contest after Bischoff pulled the ref from the ring. Jeff Harvey then takes them both out with chairs.
Pathetic.
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Post by clashofchampains on Mar 2, 2011 5:56:58 GMT -5
10/14/10 was a great example of killing momentum. TNA had it coming off the THEY storyline, but murderized it shortly thereafter. Now its just a big joke amongst wrestling fans. They didn't lose momentum. They had to explain 6 months of storyline in one show. What would you rather do, they spend 6 months of a storyline, they do a big swerve at BFG and then spend the whole Impact having X Division matchs? As a viewer, I wanted to know what the whole 6 months was about. There's always too much talking on Impact but this show HAD to have talking and be storyline-heavy. Some of you must have been miserable in the 80s when wrestling on tv was squash matchs and build-up.
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Post by Ash Kingston on Mar 2, 2011 6:44:36 GMT -5
10/14/10 was a great example of killing momentum. TNA had it coming off the THEY storyline, but murderized it shortly thereafter. Now its just a big joke amongst wrestling fans. They didn't lose momentum. They had to explain 6 months of storyline in one show. What would you rather do, they spend 6 months of a storyline, they do a big swerve at BFG and then spend the whole Impact having X Division matchs? As a viewer, I wanted to know what the whole 6 months was about. There's always too much talking on Impact but this show HAD to have talking and be storyline-heavy. Some of you must have been miserable in the 80s when wrestling on tv was squash matchs and build-up. No, you know, you're right. They did need to be storyline heavy after the swerve at BFG... if only they had a show that was almost designed for this sort of th- ...huh. It would have been so simple, too. Take the first segment to get rid of Dixie, have Hardy come out to give his "I sold in!" promo, and get Nash and Sting out of the picture. Hold off on Fortune joining with Immortal until the week after; actually give the show some tension with Flair being silent when asked about his opinion of the regime change, since he had been feuding with Hogan only a few months earlier (that reminds me, did Flair ever get his HoF ring back from Abyss?), and with Fortune at his back, he could get his revenge! Hype up Bischoff revealing his "master plan" on Reaction, and boom, space for (*gasp*) some actual ****ing wrestling. ****, if you wanted to, have Styles (and Fortune) screw over RVD and Anderson, and then go on to the next week to do the Immortal/Fortune merger. But that made sense, so **** it, let's have more wrestling on the talking show than the wrestling show.
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Post by Brian Suntan on Mar 2, 2011 9:29:45 GMT -5
Was this also the week when Re-Action was also another hour of explaining the entire storyline?
Either way, they spent the best part of two hours trying to explain a swerve which barely made sense in the first place.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 2, 2011 11:14:28 GMT -5
I remember that episode of Impact being among the worst episodes of any major professional wrestling show I've ever seen. That includes WCW in 1999 and 2000 and Raw in the late 00's.
Fortunately Impact's improved substantially since then, despite TNA's efforts otherwise.
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Post by "The Rated XXX Superstar" Jed on Mar 2, 2011 11:23:44 GMT -5
10/14/10 was a great example of killing momentum. TNA had it coming off the THEY storyline, but murderized it shortly thereafter. Now its just a big joke amongst wrestling fans. They didn't lose momentum. They had to explain 6 months of storyline in one show. What would you rather do, they spend 6 months of a storyline, they do a big swerve at BFG and then spend the whole Impact having X Division matchs? As a viewer, I wanted to know what the whole 6 months was about. There's always too much talking on Impact but this show HAD to have talking and be storyline-heavy. Some of you must have been miserable in the 80s when wrestling on tv was squash matchs and build-up. True, but if they hadn't wasted our time with such a complex, convoluted storyline this show wouldn't have been necessary. It's not just the talking that sucked, it's that the REASON for the talking sucked even more.
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Post by wcw on Mar 2, 2011 13:57:48 GMT -5
For the guys at the Impact Zone, I can understand their frustrations being there live and all but as a tv viewer I kind of liked it. It was the show just after BFG and after months of They storyline, they had to explain a lot of stuff. They had to do their big promo, they had to have Dixie being thrown out, etc...For one thing I knew what that show was going to be because it was posr BFG, after the big swerve. I was expecting a storyline-heavy show and it was just that. They could have done the whole promo in 20 minutes. They explained everything piece by piece and it wasted a lot of time. Half way thorough it you got their point but it still went on and on. Dixie being thrown out and Sting and Nash walking out both could have happened throughout the show rather than all at once. It was so poorly paced thats what made that 42 minute promo horrendous. The content wasn't the worst thing it was the method of delivery. Throw in the fact that the rest of the show was absolute garbage and you have the worst impact in history and if not history a very long time.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 2, 2011 14:08:23 GMT -5
I've been watching Impact since it started its run on Spike and it's definitely the worst singular episode of Impact I've ever seen. There could've been something worse during the FSN days, but if the FSN shows were anything like the early Spike shows (Jeff Jarrett holding The Owner's Belt perpetually and piss-poor production values, but the shows had a lot of fun matches, especially from the X Division), then I'd say 10/14/10's episode was much worse.
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