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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Jan 5, 2012 22:10:08 GMT -5
And that means I'm facing Ryan Blood AGAIN!!!! As you can see, Viva and I think you make a cute couple.
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Post by "Handsome" Whitey Fats on Jan 5, 2012 22:18:36 GMT -5
Didn't I send in a promo?
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Jan 5, 2012 22:19:43 GMT -5
Didn't I send in a promo? And right after I sent you a PM explaining that. But yeah, check that out.
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Post by "Handsome" Whitey Fats on Jan 5, 2012 22:26:04 GMT -5
So it's not gonna be on the show?
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jan 5, 2012 22:31:41 GMT -5
And that means I'm facing Ryan Blood AGAIN!!!! As you can see, Viva and I think you make a cute couple. This is like Eddie Guerrero vs. Chris Benoit. Or Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle. Or Edge vs. Undertaker. When it happens, you know it'll likely be amazing.
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Post by Jazzman on Jan 5, 2012 22:59:39 GMT -5
Well f*** me like a duck... seriously
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jan 5, 2012 23:05:34 GMT -5
You know, I wonder when my opponent didn't even freakin' promo this week if I'm cursed to be a JTTS forever and why I should even bother staying.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2012 23:05:45 GMT -5
Well f*** me like a duck... seriously I would... But I'm not familiar with how ducks perform that particular... function... I could f*** you like a squirrel if you'd prefer...?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2012 23:06:14 GMT -5
You know, I wonder when my opponent didn't even freakin' promo this week if I'm cursed to be a JTTS and why I should even bother staying. For what it's worth, I voted for you.
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Post by Jazzman on Jan 5, 2012 23:08:09 GMT -5
Well f*** me like a duck... seriously I would... But I'm not familiar with how ducks perform that particular... function... I could f*** you like a squirrel if you'd prefer...? Good enough, I've got a rabies shot And Amigo, I hear ya man, I really put all my chips into this whole KoW tourney. It gets frustrating
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jan 5, 2012 23:13:37 GMT -5
While I can appareicate your sentiments Berg, the difference between me and you and guys like Seth is at least you have somehting to claim. Me? The first-ever Heavyweight champ that lasted a month, a bunch of tag titles that reign's lasted about a month or so, barring one and how they might be going away soon....and that's it. All that from 2008 and I'm still bragging off nothing. So, please tell me people who didn't vote for me this time or any time like against Micheals or those two times for the Hardcore against Monkey: What the f*** do I have to do? Bribe you with brownies?
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jan 5, 2012 23:14:40 GMT -5
Well, for what it's worth, since I lost the Inter-Forum Championship, I'm back on a losing streak. I'm hoping to avoid losing both of my matches next week, but....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2012 23:30:02 GMT -5
Amigo, I've been here as long as you, and uninterrupted. Outside of the two "gimmick" belts, I haven't done a whole lot. Yeah, one can argue I've almost consistently been in the upper mid-card/main event scene, but anytime I've tried to go for one of the three main titles, it amounted to nothing. I've tried several runs at the tag belts, two straight years I lost in Thunder Dome, and only one shot at the IF title, against someone who was only around BECAUSE he had the title.
And now that I've gotten all THAT off my chest...
It hasn't stopped me from enjoying this game. Hell, last year with the Championship of Honor is one of my favorite things I've done here. Don't get discouraged.
I can tell you my own reasons for not voting for you in the cases you mentioned:
Against Jono: It wasn't his time to lose the title, not right after winning it. Yeah, you were more active and by all rights, should have won if we were STRICTLY VOTING BASED. But our format allows storytelling to play more of a roll in these things, which is why I think you lost.
Against General: I wasn't ready to see him lose the Hardcore title. Undoubtedly, that was The General's best run here. A great angle with the wind up monkey, he was more active than he'd ever been, and he was over as hell. I think a feud between you guys was important, since you're two of the iconic hardcore guys of this fed.
If I had to give any one reason why you haven't had much success when it comes to title runs, it's that you're already over enough without a title.
Not to say that you don't deserve a reign, though. Hell, I think you as a heel champion would be great. But heel title runs are few and far between. You and Viva are two guys who should've gotten longer title reigns, because you're great heels.
But if there's any one reason, I think that's it.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Jan 5, 2012 23:34:14 GMT -5
So it's not gonna be on the show? After our discussion, I think I'll post your promo as a "WWCF.com Exclusive" because I think it'll be noticed better that way. So... without further ado...
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jan 5, 2012 23:34:24 GMT -5
But, the problem is my character is a complete joke. He brags about being the best, but he has so very little to show for it.
Here's the thing, I don't mind losing once in a while, no one is invincible after all, but it doesn't even have to be a title, whenever somehting big happens to me, I choke. And the thing is, I do try. I promo, in the past before typing too long on the internet made me distracted, I wrote matches, I helped do commentary, all sorts of things, and was always ready to try something different, but in the end, it's all the same.
I think it's just a stigmata towards me. I am happy to be a founding father here but it seems like this place doesn't really need me anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2012 23:35:45 GMT -5
BRB, I'd take that video out. Even though there's no video, I'm pretty sure it still falls into the copyrighted material category.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jan 5, 2012 23:39:26 GMT -5
BRB, I'd take that video out. Even though there's no video, I'm pretty sure it still falls into the copyrighted material category. Yes, it does.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Jan 5, 2012 23:52:48 GMT -5
I can see how it gets frustrating for Amigo and Bergman. What I don't think helps is that your greatest achievements happened so relatively long ago that it looks like you both are playing out the wrestling equivalent to the Greek myth of Sisyphus. That said, I think M may have a point that you two are over without belts in that same way that wrestlers like Jake "The Snake" Roberts, "The Million Dollar Man" Ted Dibiase, or "Rowdy" Roddy Piper were. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to translate well when one often loses, more particularly when the stakes are high. That said, you might be viewed by newer members as "legends" i.e. "enhancement talent." More unfortunately, I'm not sure what Viva or me can really do about your losses since they are at the mercy of the voters. I think the best anyone can do is write you two (everyone, really) in ways that indicate that you are not overwhelmed in a match. Take the TV Title match for example: I wrote it so that Amigo was screwed by the General of the Monkey Army. Similarly, when Amigo faced Jonathan Michaels, I wrote the finish to be a lucky backslide pin by Jonathan Michaels that could have ended with a Neutron Bomb by Amigo.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Jan 5, 2012 23:54:21 GMT -5
BRB, I'd take that video out. Even though there's no video, I'm pretty sure it still falls into the copyrighted material category. Oops. I just copy-pasted from what Whitey sent me.
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Post by Jazzman on Jan 6, 2012 0:21:44 GMT -5
I can see how it gets frustrating for Amigo and Bergman. What I don't think helps is that your greatest achievements happened so relatively long ago that it looks like you both are playing out the wrestling equivalent to the Greek myth of Sisyphus. That said, I think M may have a point that you two are over without belts in that same way that wrestlers like Jake "The Snake" Roberts, "The Million Dollar Man" Ted Dibiase, or "Rowdy" Roddy Piper were. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to translate well when one often loses, more particularly when the stakes are high. That said, you might be viewed by newer members as "legends" i.e. "enhancement talent." More unfortunately, I'm not sure what Viva or me can really do about your losses since they are at the mercy of the voters. I think the best anyone can do is write you two (everyone, really) in ways that indicate that you are not overwhelmed in a match. Take the TV Title match for example: I wrote it so that Amigo was screwed by the General of the Monkey Army. Similarly, when Amigo faced Jonathan Michaels, I wrote the finish to be a lucky backslide pin by Jonathan Michaels that could have ended with a Neutron Bomb by Amigo. Oh, trust me I get that and I have no problem putting someone over, but when you get left off 2 ppv's for the first time ever and allude to this tournament in every promo I've done since Nov. to go out in the first round kills me inside.
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